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voscar
post Mar 1 2019, 11:39 PM

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QUOTE(Roman Catholic @ Mar 1 2019, 09:01 PM)
So today I've washed the dead Yokohama battery to prevent any surface discharge further and to remove all the gunk on it.

After wiping it down for it to be air dryed, I decided to tilt the battery slightly to it sides to allow excess water 💦 to flow away.

I was shock with the amount of water that was pouring out from both sides when it was tilted !

It's a design flaw to be have so much water entrapped in between the crevices etc.

To put it in layman terms, I wouldn't be buying this model with a flaw in its design that's for sure.

While this model may look nice with its futuristic design but this doesn't cut it. Practicality always supersedes asthetics if efficiency is what one is looking for.
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Isn't there is ventilation hole on one of the side? If you turn upside down of coz the acidic electrolyte will pour out from that hole. It is for venting to avoid high pressure during charging.
The venting hole I'm referring to
https://www.techconnectcanada.com/blog/2017...tery-vent-plugs

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post Dec 17 2019, 10:49 PM

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QUOTE(6UE5T @ Dec 17 2019, 12:57 AM)
Crap Century Ultramax suddenly died on me! Will never buy Century again. Now all my 3 cars change to Amaron, we'll see if it's as good as many have claimed!
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Ya today morning I start my gen2 after 1 week unused, feel the starter motor sounds a bit weaker. Could be because 1 week no start and morning cold temperature.
Ultramax 2 years 8 months.
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post Dec 26 2019, 05:26 PM

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QUOTE(voscar @ Dec 17 2019, 10:49 PM)
Ya today morning I start my gen2 after 1 week unused, feel the starter motor sounds a bit weaker. Could be because 1 week no start and morning cold temperature.
Ultramax 2 years 8 months.
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My ultraman battery has now officially dead, totally cannot start this morning, aged 2 years 8 months. sad.gif
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post Dec 26 2019, 08:01 PM

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QUOTE(voscar @ Dec 26 2019, 05:26 PM)
My ultraman battery has now officially dead, totally cannot start this morning, aged 2 years 8 months. sad.gif
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Strange I measure voltage 12.38V but not able to start.
Replaced new battery starter came alive happy revving, once crank engine started nicely. Don't recall my starter spin so fast before.
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post Dec 27 2019, 11:21 AM

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QUOTE(LemonKnight @ Dec 26 2019, 11:18 PM)
Did you use a battery tester to see crank ratings like cca as well?
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QUOTE(Roman Catholic @ Dec 27 2019, 07:03 AM)
What type of instrument and brand that was use to measure the voltage ?

Not too long ago, my battery voltage was good but it failed to crank the engine, although it managed to crank another car. Found later that it was the starter that crap out after 20+ years. Now with a new starter it is better than before. 😊
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I have have cheap multimeter, only can measure voltage no cca.
Usually based on my past experiences, when failed to crank usually battery gave voltage reading <12V... dry.gif




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post Dec 28 2019, 04:05 PM

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QUOTE(Roman Catholic @ Dec 27 2019, 07:03 AM)
What type of instrument and brand that was use to measure the voltage ?

Not too long ago, my battery voltage was good but it failed to crank the engine, although it managed to crank another car. Found later that it was the starter that crap out after 20+ years. Now with a new starter it is better than before. 😊
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Today I sent to sell my battery, that shop has measuring tool so I ask him help to measure, 12.3V 203CCA, but showing health status was weak.
Strange still got over 200CCA cannot start my car already...
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post Dec 28 2019, 10:55 PM

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QUOTE(Roman Catholic @ Dec 28 2019, 08:12 PM)
Bro., I don't think I remember you writing about the make and model was your vehicle that the battery couldn't crank any longer.

I think different makes and different models needs a minimum amount of CCA to turn over the engine, heck I even suspect each and every vehicle even of 4the same make and model has different minimum requirements as well. Age may also be a factor.

What makes real sense from what is continuosly prescribed by battery sifus, is to stuff into the battery compartment with the highest rating battery that is appropriately suited for the vehicle, that should give one the best bang for ones buck. Never once have I came across any battery sifus suggesting going for the cheapest battery available because it is most probably on the way out. 😊

The readings at approx 200 CCA is right to begin to show that its weak, that is what I experienced too however my battery are still be to turn the engine over. Maybe for your vehicle, the battery would be considered weak when the readings are at 300 CCA.
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My car is Proton Gen2 btw, requiring DIN45R size minimum.
Previous set was Bosch S3 DIN55R used 2 years 10 months, still OK but decided to give up because I always on midnight job, don't want after work stranded cannot go home, that was year 2016 when those 24 hours battery rescue app still not popular.

I then trade-in for Ultraman DIN65R, chooses this due to 21 months warranty and previous family car also uses this for 1.5 years before car selling off.

When changing battery the old Bosch measured somewhere >310 CCA, that's why I didn't encounter any issue cranking. New Ultraman at that time measured >600 CCA.

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post Jan 3 2020, 10:42 PM

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QUOTE(Roman Catholic @ Dec 30 2019, 08:58 AM)
You seem to care about your batt and seem pretty alright too. Tell you what, the next time before your batt gives way, let me know and I will prepare a new batt for you, if that is possible. Breaching the 3 year mark should be possible, if one is willing to follow the terms & conditions. 😊

I am at a Service Center now as I write this. There's a vehicle that has just carton box wrapped around its batt. Question for all, is this right or wrong ?
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Today my another car's battery konk. Turn ignition to ON then both meter panel no display and interior room no light. If switch off ignition after a while interior room light will lit-up.
Tried jump start from another car, after plug jump start cable also same no different, switch ignition to ON then everything goes off.
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post Jan 4 2020, 12:32 PM

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It is not the higher voltage the better? Haha.


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post Jan 4 2020, 02:04 PM

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QUOTE(Roman Catholic @ Jan 4 2020, 01:16 PM)
Bro., 12.6V on the battery out-of-vehicle is good enough already 100% State-of-Charge. Ini sampai 20V. Ini bateri 12.6V bateri bukan ke ? Terlalu high and terlalu merbahaya.
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Any idea why the voltage burst itself?
Luckily so far didn't detect anything fried, so scared my ECU kena goreng.
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post Feb 18 2020, 03:11 PM

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QUOTE(Roman Catholic @ Feb 18 2020, 06:08 AM)
Hi everyone,

I've got a hypo question about batteries.

1. Costs Rm200 with 300 CCA, or
2. Costs Rm270 with 450 CCA.

The above are new batteries ceteris paribus, which would you choose and why ? TQVM for joinning in this survey. 😊
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I will choose option 1, I see no real advantage of having high CCA unless it able to lasts another 1 year longer under normal usage?
For me will choose cheapest reputable brand (century, bosch, amaron, panasonic) and replace after every 2 years. 2 months back 2 family cars' battery dead in 2 week separation, both lasted 2 years 4 months and 2 years 10 months something. Imagine the pocket burden of replacing both DIN 55 sized battery in the same month.

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post Feb 19 2020, 08:59 AM

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QUOTE(Roman Catholic @ Feb 18 2020, 06:25 PM)
Bro, of course under normal circumstances, it is natural that a higher powered unit will last longer than a lower powered unit. The reverse will never hold true.

Don't you find it strange that you lament on the hit on the pocket and yet you resign to the fact that replace every 2 years ?

For me, I personally don't accept such a situation but continuosly strive to look for ways to prolong battery lifespan, even after having the highest CCA installed and acheiving 4 years with that. Even then, it is still unacceptable for me, as now I need to beat my previous achievement of 4 years.

Bro., my advice is, the devil is always in the details, if you get what I mean. 😊
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So far my encounter higher CCA isn't yielding longer lifespan, it was completely opposite.
On my Gen2:
Original Ramcar DIN 45R came with the car, lasted 3 years and I decided to replace due to frequent midnight job.
Bosch DIN 55R, can't recall how many CCA when new, but it was lasting more than 2 years 11 months or exact 3 years before I decided to replace due to same reason.
Century Ultramax DIN 65R, now this is higher CCA about 680 CCA when new, lasted only 2 years 8 months and totally kaput. The 1st most expensive battery during that time ~RM300 but I try in seeking confidence for lasting more than 3 years. Also the 1st battery to be kaput in my Gen2.
Current Bosch DIN 55R, measuring only 400 CCA when new. Quite cheap considering the current price without trade-in and later I managed to sell my kaputed Century @ RM30 to a spare part shop.

On my VW Polo Sedan:
Original Exide DIN 61 came with the car, lasted 1 years 8 months and totally kaput.
Original Exide DIN 61 replaced under warranty, lasted 2 years 4 months, totally kaput and gave high voltage 21V low 27 CCA. During 1st year ownership I went battery shop to measure the CCA before a long cuti cuti driving half West Malaysia trip, at that time it was measured healthy about 700CCA.
Current Amaron DIN 55, measuring 878 CCA when new.

So after the above experience, I don't have any confidence to push the battery longer than 2.5 years lifespan. Better to get cheapest well known branded and replace every 2-2.5 years.

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post Feb 21 2020, 09:09 AM

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QUOTE(Roman Catholic @ Feb 19 2020, 10:10 AM)
Ok and thanks for your information. Here's what I can deduce.

Polo. It seems to have an exceptionally high power consumption of 24 CCA/month, far greater than all the cars that I have tested todate. Or maybe that is VW standard thingy, I don't know.

Gen2. Now I think I know what you are trying to say. However if I had guessed it correctly, the Gen2 high power consumption 16 CCA/month.

Here's the thing, one has to factor in power consumption as well in determining battery lifespan. The higher the power consumption, the shorter will the lifespan be, and vice versa. I know for sure that cars that runs only during the day, their batteries last longer than cars that runs at night. Simply because there is no load on the battery from the lights on day cars. Since you mentioned about frequent midnight jobs, that could be your very reason.

My sister-in-law gatal-gatal when to install a huge entertainment unit etc etc and then asked why her battery cannot last long. Now in order to say money on the DIN55 battery, now she never turns on the entertainment unit anymore.

A good friend of mine came in a new Odyssey and said that the battery dies after a year period. With the 2 huge automatic sliding doors, USB ports throughtout the car for charging 5 phones dan lain lain lagi, macam mana tak mati ?

I met a Chinese lady yesterday, whom is interested in attending my talk next month. She said she tries not to use the air-con where possible, just to save money on batteries and she managed to push her battery lifespan longer than before. I commended that it was very wise of her.

If anyone were to run 2 simple test, using 2 new batteries & let it self-discharge by itself sitting on the floor. The higher powered unit will certainly out last the lower powered unit accordingly based on CCA differences by the same proportion.
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No no, if you read carefully my comment, my Gen2's original Ramcar DIN 45R battery should have lowest CCA of all, but it was lasted 3 years and ongoing. Bosch also another lower CCA of about 400 CCA when new, also lasted almost 3 years and ongoing. So you can't take assumption of my Gen2 was consuming high CCA/month just based on the Ce***** kaput case.

6UE5T also experienced relative low battery lifespan for Ultraman battery. I remember saw his was dead just before mine, just passing 2 years life itself. My another friend's 2017 Honda City also had Ultraman NS60S battery death within warranty period, meaning below 21 months.... The problem lies with the quality of Ultraman battery itself I think, not due to CCA rating or my car's current draw consumption. FYI, I don't use radio or fancy alarm system on this car.

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post Mar 4 2020, 09:28 AM

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QUOTE(Elwin2000uk @ Mar 3 2020, 06:27 PM)
may the brand of NS60S is lower spec with 46B24R, for Honda standard requirement battery for NS60S spec must be 55B24R. this spec also used in Civic And all those honda car for their battery NS60. have to remember that quality and spec very important when buying a battery for your car. https://carbateri.com/pricing/
check the website to get know what is your car battery size. their service quite good as i used previously. free deliver & free installation with very compatibility price. one more thing is they never charge event a cents when come to warranty on site visit within warranty period.
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With Ultraman referred, below is the spec for NS60S.. Looking on the 55AH I assuming it's 55B24R spec?

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post Apr 25 2020, 06:00 PM

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3 years or 60,000km...
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post Apr 25 2020, 07:16 PM

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QUOTE(Roman Catholic @ Apr 25 2020, 06:21 PM)
Whoa ! I am blown away.

I will definately have to check this out tomorrow.

Bro., what does it mean when it is stated pro-rate or rata ?
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Upon further checking, jeng jeng jeng


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post Apr 26 2020, 04:23 PM

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QUOTE(razuryza @ Apr 26 2020, 03:02 PM)
Why is the price is quite different with shopee seller? Shopee sells cheaper. Is ther different pricing with different warranty period? Or different dealers give different warranty and service?
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You're actually paying the extra for some sort of insurance programme, which is the extended pro-rata warranty.
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post Jan 20 2023, 08:27 PM

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QUOTE(Roman Catholic @ Jan 20 2023, 05:05 PM)
MERCEDES-BENZ NS60S ? 😨

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The rest is history. No wonder la cari wireman. It is strange I tried talking to him but he wanted to teach me things instead. Yup customer is always right. NS60S ialah bateri spec for this Mercedes. Gua caya sama lu bro. Bos nak pakai bateri lagi kecil saiz Kancil punya pun boleh. Lagi jimat bos.
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Old uncle? Their mindset battery is only for starting then the rest handledby alternator, also old car very less electronic so use small battery is ok...
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post Feb 4 2023, 02:00 PM

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Roman Catholic Century battery guru, recently I found online got sell Century IZU battery, but can't find any info online.. even Century's own website didn't mention... do you have any info? Was it repackaging from Marathoner range?

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post Feb 4 2023, 08:56 PM

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QUOTE(Roman Catholic @ Feb 4 2023, 07:44 PM)
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Thanks for explanation, ya I also agree with you.
BTW, the Marathoner range was it on 12 or 15 months warranty? I also found there's Continental range with 15 months warranty, but this one will be DIN65R for my Gen2, worth extra 20-25 bucks to go for Continental or not? Thanks.

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