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 Perodua ARUZ - LYN ARUZ CLUB (LAC) v1, Bring on the T power om P2

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post Jan 3 2019, 11:39 PM

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brv met its nemesis
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post Jan 18 2019, 03:01 PM

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do expect the rpm similiar to myvi 1.3 manual during top gear cruising.
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post Feb 17 2019, 11:50 PM

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QUOTE(jimmydotnet @ Feb 16 2019, 01:24 AM)
I heard production for 2nd batch is halt due to price change. Some sort of price matching to x70 because of same SUV segment. Same goes to Rush. Thats why no Rush OTR because price is still not fixed.

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price matching of aruz to x70???? really?
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post Feb 18 2019, 09:40 PM

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QUOTE(chrisseow @ Feb 18 2019, 03:47 PM)
Price of Aruz will be affected in future. At the same time X70 is not same segment as Aruz but Toyota Rush is brother of Perodua Aruz. This 2 units price will be pulling together so it would not affect the sales.
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x70 might have minor price drop once ckd, or give you more kits at the same price.

On the aruz rush scenario, most likely some hefty discount on rush perhaps. Is not unusual practice though. for perodua, their tradition is give offer to variant that is not so hot in demand/have excess inventory. Since rush and aruz come from the same production line, and perodua only targeting 2500 units per month (not sure how many units toyota is targeting, 500?), it is unlikely the price matching practice will be in place. You won't be getting excessive aruz in inventory (rush maybe). As perodua can anytime bump up the production for other models. And aruz cannot be cheaper in order to maintain the gap between rush. And adjusting the price down wasn't something that perodua will usually do. After all they are UMW subsidiaries. We all know how UMW make money.


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post Feb 19 2019, 01:54 PM

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QUOTE(chrisseow @ Feb 18 2019, 10:39 PM)
Yeap you're right for X70 ckd prices and Aruz details. Part of my friend from Perodua Business saying that price of Aruz will increase in the future thats why asking people to quickly place booking before its too late. No matter sales for perodua or toyota or daihatsu, all profit margin still go back to Toyota in the end.
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it maybe a psychological tactic played by Perodua to lure for bookings in order to make up the numbers. After all, when we watch the review on aruz, most of the review are about being neutral with not much praising. Let alone the powertrain (output and combination) will be the focus of consumer (malaysians are fond with the peppy throttle perodua since 1st myvi) and target for rivals to attack (honda will be praising their iVTEC CVT BRV in terms of output by numbers, proton will tell you their x70 being TGDI 6AT).

Well, let's see. If perodua were to bump up the pricing, then perodua is sort of suicidal with aruz market planning. Especially when their service quality is going down trend, and also the parts quality wasn't as good as they gonna had. If proton able to improve on their car's reliability, and service quality. Then perodua should be really worry about their future.
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post Feb 20 2019, 10:10 PM

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perodua never excel in their audio system, dont hope for that, but i do believe aruz should be one of the best perodua model in terms of audio quality, 2 tweeters + 4 mid range speaker, shouldn't be too bad.
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post Feb 21 2019, 09:49 AM

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we should be glad that p2 head unit is still swappable with other brand and when the HU went havoc other functionality is still usable. I mean when it compared to other higher end models like X70 (people tend to compare aruz to X70 even it is different segment and class, most likely due to the launching time proximity), honda crv, honda civic.....

i can't imagine future P2 models with HU controlling some of the vehicle functionality and it come with crappy audio processing capability and having little problems here and there. Not sure about myvi & alza's HU, but on bezza advance HU, it tend to have glitches here and there, like hang, display problem etc..... i think P2 still have a long way to go with their HU quality.
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post Feb 21 2019, 05:46 PM

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maybe people want a car that drives like a bimmer, an 8speed AT box, direct injection turbo engine for power & fuel efficiency, 8 speakers BOSE sound systems inside, 7 inch semi floating deck HU with Apple touch panel level of smoothness, dual zone auto aircond with digital panel, 7 airbags, VSC, ABS EBD, AEB, LDW, BLIMS, TPMS, tall enough to handle flooded street whenever it rains heavily, good NVH, nice looking, DRL, spacious, plush seats, fit in 7 pax comfortably (or maybe 8 pax whenever they wanna slot in a kiddo), easy to drive, cheap to maintain, 5 years free service and unlimited mileage warranty, most important thing is...... it is available for price of sub 80k, and entitle for fuel subsidy. brows.gif
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post Feb 25 2019, 12:31 AM

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if you have a tight budget for a 7 seater and you put safety as your first priority, i think is either second hand Japanese MPV, or this aruz.

WHen you buying aruz, then you cannot put a high expectation on the FC as you already knew it is a 1500cc RWD 1300kg tall metal on the road, with 4AT (some like it as it is reliable, some hate it due to lack of ratio spread, like it or not, that's the only thing available for RWD 1500cc in toyota/daihatsu power train) regardless how well you play around witht he ECU TCU mapping, it won't be having a supreme FC number.

But then, 80k, with AEB. I think no other 7 seater models come close.
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post Mar 4 2019, 12:13 AM

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seen about three units of Aruz at Cameron Highlands. Nice.
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post Mar 4 2019, 09:51 PM

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Aruz booking at 13000 units, wow.....
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post Mar 5 2019, 01:22 PM

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QUOTE(SnoWFisH @ Mar 5 2019, 11:24 AM)
It's about a month for X and half month for AV according to my SA.

I'm getting the X, not a fan of leather seats. They will get destroyed by the car seat anyway.
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what mean by "they will get destroyed by the car seats"?
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post Mar 5 2019, 05:20 PM

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QUOTE(sunami @ Mar 5 2019, 03:59 PM)
Im not saying we should speed. If a car is underpower you shld know the fuel consumption gonna be like..
moreover...is a 7 seaters...how hard do you accelerate to make the car move?
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given the weight vs the engine power, surely aruz is considered underpower. not to mention the torque output is pretty dissapointing as well, 133Nm of torque from a dual vvti 1500cc engine with 11:1 compression ratio.

the gear ratio for this aruz is on the high side if compared to other perodua models. It means the engine will turn higher rpm to move the vehicle the same speed, it surely affects the fc. The gear ratio is meant to compensate the shortfall of engine power against the weight and the 17inch wheel that aruz had.

if you are looking for a seven seater with suv look and power, nissan xtrail.
if you are looking for a seven seater with suv look and your pocket can afford 8X-90K price tag and you need some power, brv.
if you are looking for a seven seater with suv look and come with safety feature (gadgets) and don't mind about the power, toyota rush
if you can't afford rush, then aruz is the answer

i think it is whether you willing to pay for what you want.

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post Mar 5 2019, 09:14 PM

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QUOTE(amscouzach57 @ Mar 5 2019, 07:17 PM)
Instead of recommending the Xtrail. You should recommend Kia Sorento as it has better safety features & it is a full fledged 7 seater SUV instead of a 5+2 seater SUV as the Xtrail.

For for Sub 100k 7 seater ish car, choices would be between Aruz, Rush, BRV, Sienta, upcoming new Grand Livina/ Xpander. I excluded Ertiga & Exora due to reasons such as lack of safety features or model too old.
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true true, i forgotten sorento. hehe..... too rare species. Dont forget the starex royale.I also forgotten about innova as well. laugh.gif

yeah, i wonder how they going to spec in for xpander/livina. would be interesting to see how they going to fight in this tough field.

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post Mar 8 2019, 05:08 PM

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mitsubishi simply too slow in action, or maybe they not even bother about it. remember mitsubishi attrage? it launch earlier than bezza but it wasn't well received, partly due to the pricing as well. It could be well received it the pricing can be more attractive.

not sure whether the engine mounting position enable the expander livina to put in nissan powertrain or not, it surely good if nissan able to put in their Dual CVTC 1.8L engine in. (the sylphy engine), but then, it won't be a cvt unless nissan really aiming to attack hard on this segment.
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post Mar 11 2019, 08:21 PM

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cruising at 110kph returns 3500rpm
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post Mar 12 2019, 01:47 PM

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QUOTE(mushigen @ Mar 12 2019, 08:48 AM)
Owners will need to lower the spare tyre each time they need to check the pressure. Foresee many Aruz running about with soft spare tyre.

The punctured tyre will probably end up in the back of the car because it needs to be patched up asap. Hopefully owners will remember to pull up the chain holding the spare tyre before driving off.
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this is similiar to alza as well. you need to use a spanner to lower down the spare tyre in order to inflate it. which is a bit of hassle. and for aruz, need to be really careful on the chain, if it gets rusty and snaps, then the spare tyre sure gone. because there's no steel bracket holding it like alza did.

when the tyre drops it reminds me of Jason Statham's "Death Race" whereby he drop a big metal piece from the back of his car aka tomb stone. brows.gif
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post Mar 12 2019, 09:18 PM

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QUOTE(mushigen @ Mar 12 2019, 01:52 PM)
Should have provided skinny temporary tyre instead of full size in this kind of set up.
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i personally prefers full size spare tyre. skinny tyre is just simply a cost cutting measure.
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post Mar 13 2019, 05:40 PM

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QUOTE(mushigen @ Mar 12 2019, 09:53 PM)
Toyota Ipsum 2.4 has space saver tyre. And its kerb weight is much more than 1.3T.
True. Until you start to realise how heavy and cumbersome a full size is in this kind of placement.
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well, we do have a choice to ditch the spare tyres if we really hate the presence of it. There's always a choice, right?

QUOTE(SnoWFisH @ Mar 13 2019, 11:34 AM)
Well Toyota is going towards this fixture setup for all its external mounted spares, including the Innova and Fortuner. We can expect the others to follow suit very soon.

I prefer the chain over the cage type of fixture as present in the other make. The Cage makes it easier to for the tyre to drop, but its a troublesome as hell to put the tyre back. The cage usually weights qutie a lot, and you need to align the shaft/rod into the hole from the top... I see sometime even tyre shop guys take a few tries to get it in.

I guess the chain should be durable enough to withstand all these stress and environmental factors, otherwise Toyota/P2 have to be expecting to do a massive recall to replace their "faulty" chain  tongue.gif  tongue.gif  biggrin.gif

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trust me, Perodua will not be so sincere in issuing product recall. They will wait for you to voice up and then when the matter gets worse (eg many users making noise) or if such symptom is related to vehicle operation & safety (like the myvi EPS case), they only will do it. Remember cases of detached torsion beam of alza that get viral online? Perodua claims that are isolated cases.
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post Mar 15 2019, 02:29 PM

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Aruz's sister car Rush selling price confirmed, selling from 93k onwards.

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