hey guy , i have a question . AM2+ processor can compatible with AM2 motherboard ?

Yes, AM2+ proc can be operated in AM2 mobo. It seems AM3 proc also might be compatible to be operated in AM2 mobo but AM2 proc cant operate in AM3 mobo.

oh yeah! good news for amd user !
agena or kuma is my next target if nice in oc !
windsor hard to oc

And oh yeah...

we got 3 ghz barcelona over here.

http://blog.pcmag.com/blogs/miller/archive...07/26/2039.aspx

Very impressive figures to go.
And I haven't heard from MJ Miller from a looong time (Ever since they dumped articles off PC Mag)

I am afraid that even they produce 3GHz Phenom, the overclockability still are not sure. Let say Intel Penryn works ar 3.33GHz and the performance similar to Phenom 3GHz but when oc Penryn sure can get 4GHz easily while Phenom maybe far from possible.

well, its all speculation before a big product launch, either its gonna be like the R600 launch, which was over-hyped, like how it was suppose to beat G80's cores, but it wasnt up to expectation. ( yes ati fanboys, i am an ATi and nvidia user, so keep ur flaming to urself) or it could be a beginning to the new K10 Ice-age era pwnage for Intel

1st: It is a big launch for the company(AMD) as they had not introduced any recent new technology(K8 is almost 2yrs old)

2nd: With hypes like this, and if they do actually perform like what they claimed for phenom x4 and x2, what do you think would happen for AMD share prices in the NYSE? Either way it is to keep their share prices from dropping.

3rd: Competition is good for consumers as the prices gets slashed in a price war.

4th: It is all speculation till we see it in the store shelves and in our pc's. Or we get an ES to play around with(hint hint)

You just have to love the codenames 940, 1207, Shanghai, Sandtiger, Hardcastle, Brubridge, Kite, Perseus, Puma, Bulldozer, Bobcat, Spider, Leo, Pinwheel and Cartwheel. LOL

From http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?ar...x?article=41264

all the codenames are for "whooo-wah" hype for intel's camp and amd's camp, its mainly for investors and for their share prices, if not wouldn't it be easier to call it Processor A or Sample A or Sample B?

Socket OMFGAMDSAUCE with the new 3.0ghz KAWAIII (3 "i"s stand for generation 3) quadcore processor.
Yeah, I know, a lot of /b/s' childhood dreams.

Anyway, Slayer, what makes you confident that Penryn can push up to 4? Intel expected Netburst to achieve 11Ghz.
They stalled at a quater of it. Added with the fact that Intel quad procs like that might be bottlenecked if FSB doesn't go up again (and they do reportedly have problem pushing to 1600)

And Phenom hasn't even got its 45nm shrink yet. (2008Q3?) For Barcelona it's needed.


For Kuma (Dual) and RD790, 65nm should be their C2D.

u need to know that k10 is already in development since b4 they acquire ATI. alot of ppl saying that it will be the same fate as R600. i dun see any reason why it will b. since both development started b4 the acquisition. wats more, R600 isnt a failure product at all. it is target at mid high end market, and it pawns 8800GTS knees down.


2 correct some noob statement:

1st: K8 isnt 2 years old, it is around 4 years old.

2nd: what this thread has to do with share prices? it is Barcelona discussion. u wan share prices, there is a thread called "Finance and business..." and wats more, if K10 really perform wat it claims, AMD can sure claim back alot of it market that it had lost since a year ago.

3rd: this is ur only statement that make sense

4th: non-sense.

If you want to shoot ppl down or flame a forummer of his free form of expression please do so in the "flaming and shooting down thread". Not here.

sorry my bad then, i was referring to x2 dual cores. and not s939's

i did not say R600 is a complete failure, no doubt it pwns 8800gts, but what was claimed before its launch was utter pwnage of 8800 ultra, which turned out into abit of a dissapointment. There is a difference between complete failure and not up to claimed expectations.

2nd, have u ever wondered why is there so much hype and PR work done before a product is launched? is for its share prices, even if the product wont perform like it is claimed, their prices wont drop too much, and if it does, it will skyrocket.
So open ur eyes and wonder why is there so much hype and bullsh!t claims by either AMD, Intel, Nvidia and ATi, even if it does perform like its claim or it does not before a product launch. Dont speculate unless you have the thing on your hand or hard proof (meaning a taste of the hardware) and this is how they lead fanboys and investors along. (im an amd/intel and nvidia/ati user and im not bias coz they all are good in their own fields)

4th, If its nonsense, then can u show me real life usage and benchmarks of the processor? Ok, synthetic benchies are for bench junkies, ok then, do some real life usage tests with it, but problem is, Do you have it in ur hand to do that? if not then can u believe and rely on "previews" and preliminary benchmarks "leaked" by either of the processors or gfx giants when u cant even buy it yet?

Like i said, all the hype and previews and preliminaries are all connected to my Statement Number 2.

This post has been edited by bryanyeo87: Jul 27 2007, 08:04 PM

look at this guys.




what? any reason why benchmarking wasnt allowed? it's already near launch time, tomorrow is August. there must be something that prevent AMD from showing the benchmark numbers.

interesting how is the amd phonem performance . wish outperform c2d .

its already outperform c2d at same frequency. But it seems to launch at speed lower than 2.5GHz and overclockability cannot be determined.

And the performance claim you make is based on...?