Urgghh, it's actually too late
already bought monthly & rank-up pack with this acc
o'well, just take my time n hope for the best as it progress

I believe you were talkin' about his S3 which he rode a horse n charge forwards... in the story chapter, use NPC krau when with full health, it deals 1k+, but when his HP was around 50~60% IIRC, that skill dealt 5k+ on the same boss , of cos the npc probably has max skill enhancement... his S2 is also scary ... although they have long CD ... wanted him so bad but seem like a unit only whales can handle, IMHO ...

Plus, you need to gear up properly which is just as troublesome as gettin' de hero you wanted so bad ...

This post has been edited by El-LoboSolitario: Dec 7 2018, 08:00 AM

we were on the same boat, man... I got Diene in her banner at 121th roll... so that was like half of what you spent, and those 3* dupes? while there were many of them, i pretty much got heroes like Rima, Rima, Rima, mucacha, Rima ... mighty yaksha, mighty yaksha, sword of morning, mighty yaksha... what an odd of variances ...

Exactly, man...
disillusioned after realizing that amount to get only 10% of the heroes could buy me a freakin' AAA titles already
If aim for 100%, might as well buy PS4 or perhaps save up to buy PS5 & still possibly have enough 2 get few games... n can also re-sell
just kill time now with it, n let RNG work its way for de gacha...

The more I look at hero journal... the more I wishing those damn 3* Dark & Light heroes got de eff outta ML summon pool...
Why would these "NON-ML" heroes in the Moonlight Summon when Hero Journal shows otherwise, they are just normal heroes in the 7th world but with Dark & Light attribute unlike real Moonlight which are either Alter ego or dimensional beings blah blah blah, and look at that galaxy bookmark's description: used to summon unique heroes who might not normally be found in this world... Frankly, either they did a poor translation or KR Developer being 'incoherent' n must be dropouts who fails at literacy or a little bit of both

Of course, never expected they would do so... I doubt even if it's a japanese firm they would pull something like this that could be detrimental to their business model...

but i just felt like dissing their poor literacy, making the lores or rather the game universe so cheesy all in sudden when u saw someone like Elson ( wtf was he doing in that pool with all those "alter/supreme/extraterrestial beings")... trolling them just to feel better ...

Honestly, while initially hating it, DLC is still an acceptable way to get extra contect e.g characters comparing to de gacha system or imitator loot box...

Yah, specialty change may sound like it reversing the nerf... just like Kluri S1's perk 20% CR was just dropped to 15% for Falconer Kluri, but then in the skill tree, you can push it back up to 20%, just need extra investment of Greater runes, n alot of them ...

on the other hand, i haven't played japanese gacha for long except one, Grand Summoners, which they actually did nerf 2 units since debut 2years ago, though received backlash! so later on, they instead did it like creating new heroes overshadowing those early heroes, made them look like junks, and then design contents where you could hardly keep up or totally unviable with most heroes of the past... developers are trolls, lol

This post has been edited by El-LoboSolitario: Dec 12 2018, 08:37 AM

Ya, I was wondering too why I haven't seen any update yet... not sure if Asia server follows global time zone...
Though this is a major update, may take whole day considering they have tendency to extend ...

I am too lazy to play gacha game (unless I really enjoy de gameplay), especially those that are spin-off from mother series, e.g. FFBE etc...
Some more like recent fan-service titles i.e arc the lad, yuyuhakusho, even Sage series from last week... though I had good luck pullin rarest heroes, I just couldn't stand watchin' my favorite heroes skill set/arsenal went through down-sizing, or rather they do it in such a way you must get different style of that same hero in order to play with their other skill sets, which mean more Gacha ... gacha gameplay is de lamest n insult to classic , might as well take out my ps2, psp or emulator to replay those old classic titles

btw, you brought up a good point many didn't seem to realize... or even E7 developer neglected... the GEARS set up... without these, even a meta team with poor gear sets with low enhancement can only be as good or worse than Pearlhorizon+Jecht+Jenna+Hurado with fully enhanced gear sets ... And those times to get viable gear set and desired substats are just as mundane as killing x number of these & those creatures, I almost got bored from farming at one point...

It was released end of 2016... I also learned of the ruling regarding gacha, but it's more like forcing the dev to indicate Gacha system is a Gamble, by informing the consumers the risk of using it in one way... there may be more details to it but I forgot most, probably an addendum to refund policy in Japan ONLY?

I actually don't mind they nerf or not, more like whether I can enjoy the full content (collect all heroes of course ) ... yet paying amount that I can play many other AAA titles just to enjoy ONE game content, that's awfully absurd!!! of course, for reason i stated above for some fan-service gacha games, I probably won't even bother playing too long due to deterioration of gaming experience (e.g. Arc the lad, I couldn't stand Tosh/Iga skill animation, and only 3 skills out of their 8+ skill sets ).

Logically, they shouldn't even nerf 3*, aside from F2P, for players who spent real cash, most of their rolls were also these bunches 3*... They should only buff the rarer 4* and 5*, and if they care so much to troll F2P, they could just make it a Premium download, otherwise they are penalizing P2W which where all the hates came from (whales excluded). A law should be drafted to give a big F for these developers or else consumers can't do anything when their T&C policy is working against them...

This post has been edited by El-LoboSolitario: Dec 13 2018, 08:44 AM

I had kiris but barely use her, though saw video about her in abyss 80 2 slowly kill de targets while his team just focus on surviving...
but then I did get freakin' multi poison and bleeding stacks from banshe hunt too, 3 rows of RED markin' on top of my heroes status bar , may be they should nerf de banshee B**** in the hunt too, lol...

still, apparently it's a case Dev wanna troll players! cos both of them ain't game changing in arena, unlike shadow rose, Challenger dominiel etc...

Hahaha, tieria and mucacha were literally erased from existence...
well, mucacha not that harsh considering they buffed his dmg in exchange for nerf on his speed perk, still there are other better heroes, so he's sorta become luxury food...
Tieria received such a huge blow which i thought was really unnecessary, that her s3 lost def break effect n dmg was further nerfed down, but not sure if base on target max hp actually turns out worse or fine...
surprisingly, axe god S3 remained intact... that atk buff can be easily compensated, but S2 seems puny now, though still enough to strip his godhood, not as intimidatin'...
so far tried 11pulls... all junks as usual, damn u karyon! lol

from the sound of it you didn't get Cidd?
anyway, found him more difficult to build... if go w/ speed build, his cri bcomes very unreliable (RNG in this game is really EFF up!! even with 50+, still land cri as less as those with 20 below )... if cri build, his dmg output gets sacrifice... either build, he is a paper tiger...
Must go on Grindathron finding equipment with substats that compensate the shortcoming of both builds, TEDIOUS...


This post has been edited by El-LoboSolitario: Dec 14 2018, 06:56 PM

Ya, felt jaded... & drew 20+ in karyon banner, only got tat celestine

What content u talkin' about? World diff. 10-10 & Raid? Think that would take me very long... took me a week still no 6*, slow progress, lol

He sure is very good, but need good eqiupment 2 make crit at least 80% to b reliable at higher difficulty stages, RNG is too harsh on my game, i could only get him up to 50+, can't do dmg if he can't crit n another RNG is he got picked on in pve just like in arena sometimes, if that happen, gg...
w/ all the nerf lately, gears grinding became less efficient since i don't have sez n other counterparts that help clearin' stages faster... strugglin' hard 2 build Cidd alone, can't even think about others

man, i even struggled at world diff now, my best dps were all single target, except vilfred which i built so late n couldn't keep up yet... so no raid for me yet...

may be wait save n until original n hotter kise (b4 she lost her innocence) come out later...

Then u have 2 of them in the same pool, chance goes up alit bit

This post has been edited by El-LoboSolitario: Dec 16 2018, 07:22 PM

Nope, i don't know how good was good actually, but I did struggle with world difficulty n diff hunt levels... cos i don't follow meta n build my own team... now problem come, realize i having hard time grinding at higher level... worst is the rng not only bad in Summon, also very bad in battles... my cidd only 26k CP, highest... my dmg capability doesn't even come close to your friends

but gotta say de rng is quirky as best, with 50+ crit chance, I can say i saw Dust Devil triggered (13%) more than i crit sometimes , even those with low chance can crit just as much as my cidd... something is effin wrong... but then DD triggered more often n plus crit was a good thing, that's how he whoop As$ big time, then SB his S3 on def down enemy, if crit, hell lotta dmg... only on lvl 50+ enemies of cos, lol

This post has been edited by El-LoboSolitario: Dec 16 2018, 07:32 PM

All normal 3*, ml 3* were axe ex-god, requiemroar, gloomyrain...

4*: Karin (good but still single dps), Coli (haven't built yet), Cidd (main dps), Armin (main knight), rose (build dust), Zerato (build dust), Dominiel (lvl up then build dust), Angelica (2nd healer)

5*: Vildred (built slowly bcos Cidd took all the resources now ), Cecilia (main fire knight), Destina (main healer),
Diene (use on low level contents, don't have time2 build her )

SC: have falconer kluri (but after lookin at those skill tree, i left her aside for now)

Pathetic lists considering I actually spent some cash (damn smilegate n their RNG)

Now you saw why I struggle... cos I don't have efficient grinding comp ...
Only at hunt lvl 6, spirit lvl 6 at most... since I couldn't do well especially in Fire stages, relying on friends sometimes in adventures but since I couldn't see what their hero actual cp is, sometimes it's a gamble you got a pushover with u ...

This post has been edited by El-LoboSolitario: Dec 16 2018, 07:48 PM

Arghh... don't even wanna talk about Diene... I got her on 121 pull from de pity system, it actually cost me enuff grievance that I didn't wanna see her, imagine that kinda dilemma sentiment u hadda look over a child who cost your beloved wife life after givin' birth indulged myself in soap opera...

well I knew there were some viable in my team, but it's gonna take longer time to build them up, but for real I need to build Vildred as he is de only hero who can dmg multiple targets... Cidd is more like a Boss killer (except fire) in my game (but kinda kamikaze since he also took hit like a twig), this is de only way to make my grind more efficient in most except contents with fire enemies...
Did I just miss Schuri & Silk? I forgot him... haven't used him for awhile, was once a main ranger, but now haven't invested in any rangers after focusin' on Cidd & destina... might be a mistake too

This morning, I was considering to bash 'em hard jus to feel good in their review... When I was playing during breakfast, bought 50bookmarks to try luck in Krayon banner...
But then realized I had one uncollected gold ts, thinking I could get another ML summon as well... So I was like screw you Krayon! EFF it, Went ahead for a ml summon instead...
Then came Fill in a Hero Journal achievement pop up... Good, at least new hero, don't care if it's Gunther or Hurado, cos I knew I was expecting too much earlier... Then boom again, de twin on de right said amazing hero by your side blah blah... Oh yaaa... Just show up already, finally a 5* n only ML hero!!


Don't know what 2 say now... N crap,de problem is I don't know how to build him when I have other still bin progress...

This post has been edited by El-LoboSolitario: Dec 17 2018, 03:53 PM

Ya, I was thinking about selling it... Cos feeling overwhelming now just I thought I would focus on cidd but now came this... Sometimes when surprise so intense it actually backfired... But I really want Krau so bad...

Hahaha, i didn't bother training that ex-god after learning of his nerfin', may be wait until Specialty change!
ML ken alone is a headache to build, 1st need more food, then equipment farming, but w/o those heroes good at floor moppin, it considerably takin' longer time 4 me T_T


I'd love to if I have spare
apparently tat ML ken drained my luck, back to square one... 2 gold stones from Krayon banner still no 4* and 5* worst pull 3* artifacts in a streak...
Still hoping for Krau as water tank and some fire dps ...


summon rant aside...

do you all hunt for equipment in nixied sanctum labyrinth mostly? any tip 2 raise morale? I know only Destina blessin' n Silk food story always give positive more or less... de morale system is so harsh, considerin' compass is such a rare entry tix at de same time...

This post has been edited by El-LoboSolitario: Dec 18 2018, 07:26 PM

I see... I actually got celeste b4 gettin' ML ken in earlier few pulls... but after ML ken came out, everythin' went back to crap dejavu as if was in Diene banner again...

summon rant aside,
Celeste is nice especially 4 Destina, but I also crave for de other rod of a*** something... i only have 2 5* artifacts so far... n still don't have any artifact that works best for ML Ken, put El's fist to him with Lifesteal/crit combo, but not very satisfactory...

This post has been edited by El-LoboSolitario: Dec 18 2018, 07:31 PM

Well, i know Karyon stat sux... but must admit... he has the coolest skill animation for all his skills

And another fact, her spd as a soul weaver is most terrifyin' somehow... with a spd built, she (lv34) is just slightly bhind my Cidd (lv50) not sure about de tomb artifact, but with that spd, she could literally put up barrier while refresh debuff quite often...
but aside from that, her other stats are just typical SW, not sure if that's a negative...

i thought kayron not de 1st 5* receivin' bad rep when debut... heard krau went thru de same thing... get buffed later 2 bcome op for a tank


your everything perhaps except your pc, if alter kise also come out togehter

This post has been edited by El-LoboSolitario: Dec 19 2018, 08:32 AM