I wonder if Ferrea @Denai Alam has a build in centralized heater or it doesn't, i heard Elmina green has. Don't quote me this is just what I "heard"

Yea like the hotel concept, where red is hot and blue is cold, I have relatives and friends where they use this system.

Not much details on this property, I'm guessing they have not release for public viewing yet?

They mentioned it will take 15 mins from Denai Alam to the IKEA exit, which is close to to the MRT station.
This Elmina project is heavily dependent on the completion of DASH, last weekend I was in there for a resident meeting and SD updated that DASH is 70% completed and will complete by early 2020.

This post has been edited by Spawny: Mar 11 2019, 10:11 PM

I think some folks do not appreciate that SD is building the fencing/walls and also the guard house with 0 chargers, if the community were to do by their own everyone need to fork around 1-2k depending on the size of the area covered.

Guarded property will definitely increase the property of the house, if your trying to leech off other resident that's just wrong ethics.
I understand for those people are that not staying at the place will not want to pay, but for those who are planning to stay just pay the small fees to guard the area.

This post has been edited by Spawny: Mar 20 2019, 08:16 PM

It might be true that that the fencing and guard house is included in the package deal.
Its easier said than done, it depends on how the community handles it and they will produce different output.

As for experience, I do have another house with a guard house and no issues as you said above by the community, maybe only a selective few that is not paying but that is unavoidable.
I can't tell you have I have experience being in a committee, but I do have other experience eg: my mum got rob right in front of our house and a robber break into my dad's house in the same taman, and both houses are not guarded.

Unless you face something similar to mine, you thoughts will indefinitely opt for a GG community, they would rather deal with the issues than have a taman which has no fences around, I'm not saying that GG taman has no risk of being broken in but its lowering your risk and it increases your property value by a lot more compared to non GG.

You can ride a bike without a helmet, but increase your chances of having a serious accident, its just that if your unlucky you will experience it first and your thoughts will definitely change.

This post has been edited by Spawny: Mar 20 2019, 09:41 PM

EV5, cause it will closer to the exit point of Dash and also to Denai Alam which has more commercial shops.
And also closer to the forest reserved, so I would say they save the best for last IMHO

Ev1 still have one of the best views facing the park, not too bad if u ask me

Its human behavior to look for negative comments and ignore the positives one, not that i'm defending them but you have to take account on the likes to dislikes ratio to have a overall view.

I would say that Sime darby strength is building a long term township, it takes years for it to mature but it will look much different in 10 years time.

The same lady has been posting for all Sime Darby post on social media about the quality in Elmina Garden, but lets just think rational about it.

She is comparing SD with Eco and Gamuda which are strata titles, the reason why they are having clean and beautiful landscape is because of the maintenance paid by the owners which is easily 500 bucks and above depending on unit.

Second, individual title homes or area are managed and maintained by the majlis pembandaran of that area, so if they are not doing job you need to call them in.

Her logic was that SD will maintain the area even after they VPed the house, i think in order for your place to be clean and fixed, a good RA community is a must.

SD price is similiar to Gamuda, but please take into account most of Gamuda landed properties are leasehold and SD are mostly freehold, so I think that is why SD products sell like hotcakes as people rather pay for a freehold development, but personally i dont really care about leasehold or freehold but most people would rather buy freehold.

I guess Elmina is still maturing and development is still going on, like other mentioned before it needs to take years for the place to mature and possibly the area will look better in years to come. My current place looks like crap when we moved in, but many years later it was managed by the Majlis pembandaran well so now it looks alright.

People just need to patience and i feel it will much better later

I would say all ECO world products are not for investment, rather than own stay cause of the leasehold tenure, ECO Granduer is deep into Puncak Alam area and far from most urban cities. You should compare Elmina to Eco Ardence in Setia Alam instead.

If you are familiar with SD township, they will take years to develop into a proper township with better commercial area and access to highways in years to come, as this is always SD strategy.

ECO strategy is always leasing the cheapest land, and build their expensive products on it and awe you with their sales gallery and landscape, because they are mostly looking at short term development because they plan to sell their products soon as possible.

I always asked them their future plans in 10 years, they only mention more houses to be build but not facilities or commercial area as they do not have that strategy in mind for the long term game.

Investment is usually trying to buy a cheaper product with potential, and wait for the years to bear fruit while you wait for the township to develop.

10 mins of a shorter journey might look small to you, keep in mine for EA nkve is the only exit point they have to Subang and it that jams, that 10 mins becomes longer.

As in distance wise to urban areas, but Eco Ardence is a way more expensive product for ECO World brand.

I think this is a bit of exaggerating, everything that you need can be bought at the Denai Alam commercial area, if you need proper Chinese food then yes you have to drive out.

People might tend to think that Elmina is far, but in reality as long as you can access NKVE to reach Guthrie its actually very fast. Driving in PJ with the amount of cars takes longer for me to reach my destination then going to Elmina cause once you access NKVE, its highway all the way without traffic lights.

"Walkable" distance to buy grocery is a privileged, and most good housing areas are not walkable distance to commercial lot so that it can be peace and quite for the residence. Elmina green folks mostly buy their grocery from Saujana Utama, and its definitely within 2km only

No i do not think they have a Jaya Grocer, but they have their own local mart. I'm not too familiar with Saujana Utama so i don't know about any kopitiams

EV4 prices are no less than 850k as of now, as the build of the hse is much bigger, unless you really have a big family i would say EV2 would be suffice, but EV4 houses build are abit better than EV2.

The only thing that MBSA can do is to chase away the food trucks and vendors as its not a place for business and they have no license to operate in that area.

I guess all those insta and tik tok about the rainbow bridge has cause it to grew in popularity, but didn't know it will grow this much within this month or so..

I do agree that the township is a nice place to stay, all the EV phases are mostly gated and guarded compared to other places so that is still a plus.

May I know what kind of sample size your looking at judging on the build quality and the price? As I know the subsale market in Elmina and Denai Alam is very active now, in my area a Terrace house that goes on sale is gone within 2 weeks.

I can say that if your looking to buy Elmina Green area, u might want to visit the site first and see if the location fits well for you, for the otherside it's much nearer to the commercial centre so its easy purchase compared to Elmina Green