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TSbraindeath
post Nov 7 2018, 08:13 AM, updated 8y ago

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Hi,

I am not sure if this is the right place to ask. Asked my friends if they know but no answer. If this is not a right place, tell me and i will close this post.

1. If anyone know how much to print postcard size photo at the shop? Like normal size photo? Just wanna print my kids photo, to keep it for a long time.

2. Is it worth it to invest on the personal photo printer? Price is kinda steep, but if it worth it in a long term why not buy my own.

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post Nov 8 2018, 03:09 AM

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Cheap only if you do not insist of super duper print quality.

4R pics, each print RM 1.50 at certain shops. 10 Pieces for RM 15 to RM 20 range, depending on the shop.

As for personal photo printer - you have to see how often you print, the latest Epson printer I saw that does photo print (and OK la, decent output) is RM 600 range, not inclusive of paper.

RM 600 is enough to print 400 pieces of 4R photos from shop.

In the end worth it or not depends on how frequent you print, quality wise I find those RM 1.50 from shop look better than sub RM 1,000 photo printers, also no need headache to worry about replacing ink tank and what not.
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QUOTE(goldfries @ Nov 8 2018, 03:09 AM)
Cheap only if you do not insist of super duper print quality.

4R pics, each print RM 1.50 at certain shops. 10 Pieces for RM 15 to RM 20 range, depending on the shop.

As for personal photo printer - you have to see how often you print, the latest Epson printer I saw that does photo print (and OK la, decent output) is RM 600 range, not inclusive of paper.

RM 600 is enough to print 400 pieces of 4R photos from shop.

In the end worth it or not depends on how frequent you print, quality wise I find those RM 1.50 from shop look better than sub RM 1,000 photo printers, also no need headache to worry about replacing ink tank and what not.
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No need so high quality, just enough if i can look at it when my kids grown up. I believe digital keep will fail after sometime.

Clear enough from your answer, i will go and print at the shop. Thank you very much.

One more thing, any opinion how to keep video for a long time?
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Technically digital content won't fail or deteriorate, it's the storage medium that fails or fade.

What you do is put in a storage drive and also consider the option to upload to multiple cloud solutions.

Same applies to videos, the difference is that videos take up A LOT more space for covering the same moments, however video captures the moments better as the content is rich with movement and audio.

You can buy 4TB hard drives for about RM 500, also available as external storage. smile.gif

Go with whichever means of backup you're most familiar with.

If you're on Android smartphone then can consider having photos backup to Google Photos, iOS smartphones I believe they also have cloud service provided for such.
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people have been discussing about printing own photos since the price of printers became affordable. The verdict is, printing own photos is more expensives because printer inks are already expensive. You can buy cheap ink, but your picture can fade at any time..
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QUOTE(goldfries @ Nov 8 2018, 08:05 AM)
Technically digital content won't fail or deteriorate, it's the storage medium that fails or fade.

What you do is put in a storage drive and also consider the option to upload to multiple cloud solutions.

Same applies to videos, the difference is that videos take up A LOT more space for covering the same moments, however video captures the moments better as the content is rich with movement and audio.

You can buy 4TB hard drives for about RM 500, also available as external storage. smile.gif

Go with whichever means of backup you're most familiar with.

If you're on Android smartphone then can consider having photos backup to Google Photos, iOS smartphones I believe they also have cloud service provided for such.
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Yes, the photo it self won't fail.

I just need a safe option to store the photo or video for atleast 10years without worrying that i can lost the content. Not familiar with cloud storage though, so i guess the only option is external hard drive. Even that i afraid the drive will fail one day sweat.gif


QUOTE(zeese @ Nov 8 2018, 09:31 AM)
people have been discussing about printing own photos since the price of printers became affordable. The verdict is, printing own photos is more expensives because printer inks are already expensive. You can buy cheap ink, but your picture can fade at any time..
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I just need to weigh the option between photo shop or self printing. Guess it is to costly to get my personal photo printer.
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I would like to add regarding ink based printing especially when people are expecting photos to last 20, 30 or more years is to do your home work first. I always find that ink based prints fade after a few years and I suspect that is due to us not keeping them in "archival" conditions, I.e. low humidity and temperature. I have a few 30" prints that are holding up but each of those prints probably cost me like rm100+ printed by professional printers. My take is don't expect RM1.50 prints even for 4R to last without fading
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QUOTE(CocoMonGo @ Nov 8 2018, 04:58 PM)
I would like to add regarding ink based printing especially when people are expecting photos to last 20, 30 or more years is to do your home work first. I always find that ink based prints fade after a few years and I suspect that is due to us not keeping them in "archival" conditions, I.e. low humidity and temperature. I have a few 30" prints that are holding up but each of those prints probably cost me like rm100+ printed by professional printers. My take is don't expect RM1.50 prints even for 4R to last without fading
This is correct, typical 4R print will fade, it's just like those photos taken 20 - 30 years ago all lose color.

Those expensive professional photos are using ink as well but they're different type, different types of ink and paper and they were made with archival purpose in mind.
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QUOTE(CocoMonGo @ Nov 8 2018, 04:58 PM)
I would like to add regarding ink based printing especially when people are expecting photos to last 20, 30 or more years is to do your home work first. I always find that ink based prints fade after a few years and I suspect that is due to us not keeping them in "archival" conditions, I.e. low humidity and temperature. I have a few 30" prints that are holding up but each of those prints probably cost me like rm100+ printed by professional printers. My take is don't expect RM1.50 prints even for 4R to last without fading
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Of course i understand it wont be in prestige condition for a long time, just hope it will last until the time when i can look back and say my babies grown up to be a good man and woman.

You mean to keep the photo in low humidity and temperature or to avoid them, to preserve it longer?

QUOTE(goldfries @ Nov 8 2018, 10:30 PM)
This is correct, typical 4R print will fade, it's just like those photos taken 20 - 30 years ago all lose color.

Those expensive professional photos are using ink as well but they're different type, different types of ink and paper and they were made with archival purpose in mind.
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May i know what do you mean by professional photos? Those from the typical shop or got higher printer shop or something?




Notes: i plan to print the photos and another project is to frame my kids baby outfit e.g like those rockstar outfit we can see in HRC. Only that i''m not sure if i can make it (vacuum?) Inside the frame?
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QUOTE(braindeath @ Nov 9 2018, 09:31 AM)
May i know what do you mean by professional photos? Those from the typical shop or got higher printer shop or something?
Unlike the usual camera shop, these shops or companies specialize in print - very high quality print with superb accuracy.

I spent RM 150 to print 5x A3 images. That also their bare minimum I think but the quality is super duper damn good, I go with these type of providers when I participate in photography competition or photography qualification. They're so good I also use their service when I need prints for exhibition purpose.

The guy who handles my print is so good he can print larger than what most people dare to, and still get it done really good. biggrin.gif Comes at a price though, when other people don't dare to print a phone camera's 4MP photo above A4 size, he printed mine to like almost 4ft in width on canvas. That one cost me some RM 500 or so, half a decade later the image is still around in my living room.

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QUOTE(goldfries @ Nov 9 2018, 10:33 AM)
Unlike the usual camera shop, these shops or companies specialize in print - very high quality print with superb accuracy.

I spent RM 150 to print 5x A3 images. That also their bare minimum I think but the quality is super duper damn good, I go with these type of providers when I participate in photography competition or photography qualification. They're so good I also use their service when I need prints for exhibition purpose.

The guy who handles my print is so good he can print larger than what most people dare to, and still get it done really good. biggrin.gif Comes at a price though, when other people don't dare to print a phone camera's 4MP photo above A4 size, he printed mine to like almost 4ft in width on canvas. That one cost me some RM 500 or so, half a decade later the image is still around in my living room.
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I see, so this must be selected good quality family photo taken at the studio or something than only can send for this type of printing.


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QUOTE(braindeath @ Nov 9 2018, 09:31 AM)
Of course i understand it wont be in prestige condition for a long time, just hope it will last until the time when i can look back and say my babies grown up to be a good man and woman.

You mean to keep the photo in low humidity and temperature or to avoid them, to preserve it longer?
May i know what do you mean by professional photos? Those from the typical shop or got higher printer shop or something?
Notes: i plan to print the photos and another project is to frame my kids baby outfit e.g like those rockstar outfit we can see in HRC. Only that i''m not sure if i can make it (vacuum?) Inside the frame?
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Before i say anything else and other ppl here kecil hati later, I have and continue to be a film photographer and do my make my own hand printed photos. So if anything my views can be a bit biased.
Almost no photos will remain pristine given time but at the end of the day it's a matter of how badly deteriorated it will become. Regarding photo storage look for white papers from Kodak. They have some of the best scientific papers on anything photography. Basically the general rule of thumb is low humidity, no light, low temperature. For printing nothing beats silver halide prints, followed by pigment inks followed by dye inks.
Silver halide (coloured) I am sure no one in Msia does it, the only option is B&W hand prints. They are rated for 1000 years. Pigment ink the only one I know of is Epson's K2 and K3 ink based printers and rated at 100/200 years. Dye based inks (which pretty much means everything else) could be a couple of years to maybe 100. Of course weather those test conditions matches our actual storage conditions or how much deterioration was the measurements made against is up for debate.

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Actually , which type of printer brand have the best printing quality ?
What is the different in time of deterioration Laser vs cartage vs CISS ?

Consumer base , just normal photo printing , actually don't really have high hopes since having a low budget , below rm800.

Basic normal CANON GP-508 glossy paper for basic photo printing.
but I really don't know how good or poor to define a 0.14 cents of per piece of photo paper.
https://shopee.com.my/Canon-Glossy-Photo-Pa...9195.1878755443

Anyone tried about the photo book ? how does it work ?
https://shopee.com.my/photobookmalaysia
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Photobook is a good option to make your photos last longer and look nicer but you need to spend time to design the layout of each page before you send for printing so it's time-consuming and more expensive.
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QUOTE(Maxieos @ May 25 2019, 12:52 AM)
goldfries , CocoMonGo

Actually , which type of printer brand have the best printing quality ?
What is the different in time of deterioration Laser vs cartage vs CISS ?

Consumer base , just normal photo printing , actually don't really have high hopes since having a low budget , below rm800.

Basic normal CANON GP-508 glossy paper for basic photo printing.
but I really don't know how good or poor to define a 0.14 cents of per piece of photo paper.
https://shopee.com.my/Canon-Glossy-Photo-Pa...9195.1878755443

Anyone tried about the photo book ? how does it work ?
https://shopee.com.my/photobookmalaysia
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there are a lot of reviews and research on this online. End of the day you get for what you pay for. If given a choice I would go for Epson K series printers based on the reviews i have read.
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QUOTE(braindeath @ Nov 7 2018, 08:13 AM)
Hi,

I am not sure if this is the right place to ask. Asked my friends if they know but no answer. If this is not a right place, tell me and i will close this post.

1. If anyone know how much to print postcard size photo at the shop? Like normal size photo? Just wanna print my kids photo, to keep it for a long time.

2. Is it worth it to invest on the personal photo printer? Price is kinda steep, but if it worth it in a long term why not buy my own.

Thank you.
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1. 4R (4x6 inch) RM1.20 per piece or RM0.70 per piece above 20pcs. Can pm me for better bundled pricing

2. If you're planning to run the printer more than 4 times a week, by all means ... The upkeep of having a personal photo printer is way pricier than printing at a shop. Having that said, a higher capacity shop is able to print better quality photos with better tones and contrast provided it's able to print high DPI photos. Home usage printers are usually 300 to 600DPI for the higher range ones while shop owners(not everyone) tend to go for 1800DPI printers.
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QUOTE(linglingee @ May 27 2019, 10:34 AM)
Photobook is a good option to make your photos last longer and look nicer but you need to spend time to design the layout of each page before you send for printing so it's time-consuming and more expensive.
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Just normal 4r no need any design and etc.But the price and quality , still no review yet.
QUOTE(CocoMonGo @ Jun 1 2019, 12:55 PM)
there are a lot of reviews and research on this online. End of the day you get for what you pay for. If given a choice I would go for Epson K series printers based on the reviews i have read.
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What i search is all L series, where is the K series ? budget printing , CISS also will do.
Compare Laser toner vs Ink cartridge vs CISS.

QUOTE(pot-8-O's @ Jun 1 2019, 02:39 PM)
1. 4R (4x6 inch) RM1.20 per piece or RM0.70 per piece above 20pcs. Can pm me for better bundled pricing

2. If you're planning to run the printer more than 4 times a week, by all means ... The upkeep of having a personal photo printer is way pricier than printing at a shop. Having that said, a higher capacity shop is able to print better quality photos with better tones and contrast provided it's able to print high DPI photos. Home usage printers are usually 300 to 600DPI for the higher range ones while shop owners(not everyone) tend to go for 1800DPI printers.
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I have very less knowledge on printing section or photography , like as you said , only print at the shop but this time around I am deciding to get a home printing printer.
Out of the reason are
-Photo are taken from phone camera 8mp which I think a normal 600DPI 4r is enough.Just for basic photo viewing for elderly
-Sometimes , 1-5 piece sometimes 15 pieces , sometimes just 1-2.So I don't know whether it consider running a printer 4 times a week.No printing shop doing something like that 1-2 picture and cost a lot.Even a basic IC pasport size print cost more than RM2.
-Instant print , no need to drive and print and wait to collect.

Indeed those photo printer shop have better quality but mine was just basic printing.Just to add , actually what printer does those photo shop store buy ?


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QUOTE(Maxieos @ Jun 9 2019, 10:48 PM)
I have very less knowledge on printing section or photography , like as you said , only print at the shop but this time around I am deciding to get a home printing printer.
Out of the reason are
-Photo are taken from phone camera 8mp which I think a normal 600DPI 4r is enough.Just for basic photo viewing for elderly
-Sometimes , 1-5 piece sometimes 15 pieces , sometimes just 1-2.So I don't know whether it consider running a printer 4 times a week.No printing shop doing something like that 1-2 picture and cost a lot.Even a basic IC pasport size print cost more than RM2.
-Instant print , no need to drive and print and wait to collect.

Indeed those photo printer shop have better quality but mine was just basic printing.Just to add , actually what printer does those photo shop store buy ?
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It is indeed a luxury to own a photo printer at home, if you can keep up with the maintenance and justify it with your usage then it'll be a worthy purchase easily.
Printing outside over at a shop is always expensive, that's why it's called business not charity. Photo printing prices are pretty much standard thou and you can't go far from the prices you just mentioned +/- RM0.50 for a piece of 4R.
Well, as much as i agree on this. Waiting time has been cut alot compared to the golden days of photo printing, albeit 10sec per 4R

You can google FujiFilm dry minilab frontier series for more info, Fujifilm is the leading brand in the photo printing industry within Malaysia currently.
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QUOTE(pot-8-O's @ Jun 10 2019, 07:40 PM)
It is indeed a luxury to own a photo printer at home, if you can keep up with the maintenance and justify it with your usage then it'll be a worthy purchase easily.
Printing outside over at a shop is always expensive, that's why it's called business not charity. Photo printing prices are pretty much standard thou and you can't go far from the prices you just mentioned +/- RM0.50 for a piece of 4R.
Well, as much as i agree on this. Waiting time has been cut alot compared to the golden days of photo printing, albeit 10sec per 4R

You can google FujiFilm dry minilab frontier series for more info, Fujifilm is the leading brand in the photo printing industry within Malaysia currently.
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I had been a year or more , I still can't decide which photo printer is suitable.
Out of the reason is there is no sample of photo from a printer.
No , review on printer photo website comparison.
No , guide which to choose for printer quality model which ( different region different model and ink type)
No , forum specific discuss on printing quality.

May I can consider a low budget CISS Epson L 3150 all in 1.Pretty sure quality is poor but at lease can do the job.

Should I create a new thread on this printer and hope some feedback from user who have it can give some review ?
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QUOTE(Maxieos @ Jun 19 2019, 11:03 PM)
I had been a year or more , I still can't decide which photo printer is suitable.
Out of the reason is there is no sample of photo from a printer.
No , review on printer photo website comparison.
No , guide which to choose for printer quality model which ( different region different model and ink type)
No , forum specific discuss on printing quality.

May I can consider a low budget CISS Epson L 3150 all in 1.Pretty sure quality is poor but at lease can do the job.

Should I create a new thread on this printer and hope some feedback from user who have it can give some review ?
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The info on the Epson printer you mention ain't much, even if there is it's all about paper. I highly doubt it's photo printing capabilities.
Fortunately it's available in Lowyat Plaza, maybe you can dropby and inquire from the Sales rep and get a sample photo printed as well.

Sorry, can't be much help.
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QUOTE(pot-8-O's @ Jun 20 2019, 03:03 PM)
The info on the Epson printer you mention ain't much, even if there is it's all about paper. I highly doubt it's photo printing capabilities.
Fortunately it's available in Lowyat Plaza, maybe you can dropby and inquire from the Sales rep and get a sample photo printed as well.

Sorry, can't be much help.
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yeh , I too though of it's not for photo printing or more as basic color printer.

I don't think I can drop over , the important part is , most the user doesn't help a lot on printers

Until now , no benchmark on printer.

Cpu,Gpu,Mboard,Phone android , Monitor , LED TV , HD disk and even those mouse or mech keyboard all have review.
Photography and etc.

Only printer was left out.Or printer/scanner is the most not important item ever exist in PC peripheral ?
If there is a website that will review on most printer , please point out.
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Hi.. anybody do photo printing service? home service also can..semua kedai tutup. want to print passport photo only. can pm me ya
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QUOTE(Jay_AX @ Jul 1 2021, 11:00 AM)
Hi.. anybody do photo printing service? home service also can..semua kedai tutup. want to print passport photo only. can pm me ya
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Try Darkroom8 [ https://www.darkroom8malaysia.com/photo-printing ]

Disclaimer: I'm just a happy customer of their film developing service smile.gif
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nowadays printer at home with photo paper also can liao. i bought canon e470 during sales, rm200+ can wifi connect with phone, direct print out pictures.

instax also got portable print. but instax photo card expensive la.

now photo shop closing 1 by 1, mostly sell smartphone liao. I used to work in Fujifilm Photo Shop
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please think twice if you're printing 4R photo with photobook Malaysia. ive printed 600 photo with them in gloss finish. I received the worst quality photo printing in my life. 10MB photo but printed out dark and all the dot dot pixel. Ive made complaint to them and they said need revert back.

I still have balance 1400 with them but forget about it. unless they give me a solution.

just want to share my experience to those who looking to print photo.
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QUOTE(goldfries @ Nov 9 2018, 10:33 AM)
Unlike the usual camera shop, these shops or companies specialize in print - very high quality print with superb accuracy.

I spent RM 150 to print 5x A3 images. That also their bare minimum I think but the quality is super duper damn good, I go with these type of providers when I participate in photography competition or photography qualification. They're so good I also use their service when I need prints for exhibition purpose.

The guy who handles my print is so good he can print larger than what most people dare to, and still get it done really good. biggrin.gif Comes at a price though, when other people don't dare to print a phone camera's 4MP photo above A4 size, he printed mine to like almost 4ft in width on canvas. That one cost me some RM 500 or so, half a decade later the image is still around in my living room.
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Mind sharing the contact/company for that? biggrin.gif

 

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