Nah, willingness to reveal salary was not a factor here.

Being judged by last salary earned was the factor here.

I am paid reasonable - I won’t say the highest in the market, but fair salary for my skills.

My observation was from my down lines - between job hoppers and those that stay loyal in the company.

Yes seems like the best approach in current Malaysian market.

This approach by HR will benefit job hoppers - hence I recommend people to take advantage of the system. Show your payslip but jump after a year, for your yearly 20% hike.

Rubbish. Showing your salary is not honesty and transparency. Go ask your car market, what is the cost of making the car? Why can’t they tell? Oh they not honest is it??

As a hiring manager, I am saying. Only the hiring manager knows the value of a good candidate to the Corporation. HR job is just to rubber stamp the approval if candidate fits the range of budget allowed.

This happens more often than you think.

In my team, the range between the lowest and highest paying employee is RM10K - all doing the same job.

Show your payslip and ask standard HR 20-30% increment.

About 36-39k by HR logic lol

Exactly, with this current HR policy, working hard and building your skills doesn’t work well.

Just sit in one job for a year, and jump at year end.

Keep doing that as HR will only be looking at your payslip as a sign of your worth.

Job market says otherwise.

You can have the skills to pass the hiring manager, but HR will only judge you by your payslip - job hopping skills to continuously increase your salary will help then.

HR didn’t go background check (calling and verifying job experience) before hiring him?

He was asked to resign after joining your company?

Did I really lose?

The hiring manager and the Head of Department both approved me. I quote the HOD’s words - “you are the exact type of candidate we want in our company”

Negotiations broke down due to salary agreement - if I look at things the other way, they lost a potential good employee because of HR’s blunder in negotiation. I refused to provide my salary info even though I knew the job was in my hand - who made the call here?

Your mentality speaks volumes on your thoughts - that we should be thankful for employers to offer us a job.

I don’t think of it on the same angle - I see it as a mutual benefiting relationship - I provide my skills, the company pays. There are no winners or losers here - just win-win or no deal.

Yes, sounds exactly like an HR person who has no understanding on the complexity of the job and the skills it requires (both technical and soft skill)

You can say as much as you wish, the hiring manager and the HOD would beg to differ with you - it was a lost on their side too.

No hard feelings either way, it’s negotiation - some work, some don’t.

I didn’t bluff - I never told my salary till the end.

I don’t find it relevant to my next role.

Follow up after I left - via email

That’s what HR doesn’t seem to understand - their procedures don’t come above business needs.

Hiring manager and HOD decides that, not HR.

Yes the same HR who tried negotiating with me three times to tell them my salary information - we know who needed who more.

When you are the best and working for the best - it is never an employers market.

Salary is an itchy topic.

We all need to make a living after all.