I got a Q. Which one is better and faster, running at 2.8GHz with RAM timing of 4-4-4-12 or 3.0GHz with RAM timing 5-5-5-15?
AMDŽ Socket-AM2 Overclocking thread (V2), discuss our setup/overclocking issues
AMDŽ Socket-AM2 Overclocking thread (V2), discuss our setup/overclocking issues
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Jul 5 2007, 07:44 AM
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I got a Q. Which one is better and faster, running at 2.8GHz with RAM timing of 4-4-4-12 or 3.0GHz with RAM timing 5-5-5-15?
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Jul 5 2007, 01:18 PM
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QUOTE(lohwenli @ Jul 5 2007, 11:21 AM) No one can be sure, it depends on what program you're running. Programs which are ram bandwidth/latency sensitive will suffer from the 5-5-5-15 timing, while processor intensive applications will suffer from a lower clockspeed. Even games, some are known favour better ram performance while others benefit from more processor power. Its your call, up to you which is better for your use. Use benchmarks to help you make up your mind. I see, thanks. Currently I'm running at 2.8GHz, RAM at 803 4-4-4-12. When I push to 2.9GHz, I need to change the RAM timing to 5-5-5-15, or else can't boot. Although fail in Orthos, but SuperPI calculation is better with 2.8GHz at tighter timings than 2.9GHz.it's not juz to bring out the performance and for prime and bench... it to supply the proc with enough power to maintain it's clock speed... And agreed with 8tvt, as long it is great for my usage, I'm satisfied already |
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Jul 5 2007, 11:08 PM
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If based on cpu itself, I think Brisbane wins if having the same clock speed.
Windsor 3800+ 2.7GHz = 270x10 Brisbane 3600+ 2.7GHz = 285x9.5 Brisbane uses higher bus speed, therefore it performs better right? Correct me if I'm wrong. Still learning here |
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Jul 8 2007, 11:19 AM
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QUOTE(awh85 @ Jul 8 2007, 10:10 AM) can anyone share their oc settings for ta690g and x2 3600+ brisbane? im using with kvr ddr2 667 hynix FP-Y5 and stock hsf. prefer to use stock vcore. my bios is R69AM402.BST I'm not so sure about the BIOS, but I think you need to upgrade it. Not available it Biostar web though anyway to get it around 2.5GHz? thanks |
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Jul 8 2007, 02:08 PM
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Nvm, I just upload it myself. Forgot that I keep it
BIOSTAR TA690G-AM2 BIOS upgrade version R69AM427. CnQ features appeared
R69AM427.zip ( 415.45k )
Number of downloads: 9 |
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Jul 8 2007, 02:49 PM
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QUOTE(awh85 @ Jul 8 2007, 02:12 PM) the oc-ability of this bios is ok or not? is it possible for u to test it on AOE V12 or not? coz i might wanna flash it. thanks. What's AOE V12? Sorry for noobness I'm using this BIOS, I think it is the latest. I think if you want to OC with TA690G, you will need to flash this BIOS as the default one doesn't have CnQ feature. Thus, you will OC but stuck with CnQ, and the multiplier will most likely around X5 QUOTE(kalakatu @ Jul 8 2007, 02:23 PM) Nope, no cpu multiplier though. Once disable CnQ, its multiplier will remain at X9.5Brisbane user, how do check your temp like idle and load, especially in Vista? This post has been edited by afosz: Jul 8 2007, 04:03 PM |
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Jul 9 2007, 01:05 AM
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And Gigabyte boards for AM2 doesn't provide full features for OCing. Correct me if I'm wrong though. Only experienced it from S2G
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Jul 9 2007, 09:45 PM
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QUOTE(bryanyeo87 @ Jul 9 2007, 01:52 AM) use lavalys ultimate edition..pm me for it foc =) and bro, how far u manage to OC ur processor? coz ur one is same batch num as mine leh Everest didn't detect temp, not even Home Edition or Ultimate |
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Jul 9 2007, 09:52 PM
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Jul 10 2007, 12:38 AM
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QUOTE(bryanyeo87 @ Jul 9 2007, 11:51 PM) afosz...this is the same cpu batch num as urs leh.... O sheet .. yours eh? Damn lah, I don't want to even try it bcoz of ayam brand PSU. Later if kaboom, my pocket will berlubang » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « dare not prime coz of cap ayam psu la and either way dun wan to risk it....scared catch fire and burn my hamster on top of my casing ram is Kingston KVR 667 FPY-5 rev c batch 703aa @ 2.3v |
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Jul 10 2007, 01:11 AM
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So that 3.2GHz is using ayam brand PSU?? Some more with 1.3v only while others at 1.4v at least. Maybe can only run it for a while, but later if at load, who knows
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Jul 10 2007, 12:08 PM
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QUOTE(8tvt @ Jul 10 2007, 10:47 AM) i've told already the trfc by default was set 75ns.. should set 105 atleast to gain more fsb.. for ur info standard KVR is 127ns.. So trfc also plays part of reaching higher fsb?this is quite unpopular coz the setting fall into the advance setting in bios.. and normally we mislooked it.. @bryanyeo87: what about RAM, you change any vdimm? I must say I'm pretty jealous |
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Jul 10 2007, 01:00 PM
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QUOTE(bryanyeo87 @ Jul 10 2007, 12:33 PM) looks like the trfc also plays a part of it =/...ofc i change the vdimm...i went max out at 2.3v lolz, that is the max my bios allowed though....and dun nid better psu..use chapalang psu like me xD nyahahahah XD Hold on, what board are you using? vdimm options are 2.1, 2.2, 2.3 like that? Bcoz mine is like 2.15, 2.25 |
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Jul 10 2007, 02:06 PM
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QUOTE(soulfly @ Jul 10 2007, 01:14 PM) So is it Athlon64 X2 or a typo error of Athlon X2? Check out here bro, but pls do correct me if I'm wrong. If wiki itself, might be a typo, but amd.com? I don't think sohttp://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/Produc...5E13076,00.html But with TDP of 45W kinda do the attraction. Any news about its OCability? |
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Jul 10 2007, 03:12 PM
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QUOTE(soulfly @ Jul 10 2007, 02:46 PM) I must be left behind Again, it is Phenom But it's just a name anyway. AMD is soon releasing Phantom ... so having '64' in the name is too gimick-ish. Yeah, probably the name is just a gimmick though But I can't find its ocability, is it released yet? Some said its potential is similar with 3600+ Brisbane, only difference is its uses lesser watt Later Phenom X2 also comes with 45W TDP for lower models This post has been edited by afosz: Jul 10 2007, 03:34 PM |
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Jul 11 2007, 01:46 AM
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QUOTE(dreaming @ Jul 11 2007, 12:06 AM) But today when i start my pc, it show me some weird sympton... IINM, if that kind of msg appears, if you choose to continue (F1), you'll load in Safe Mode. Or am I wrong? As for me, I don't dare to continue if that msg appears. I'll enter BIOS again, play around and exit. Will do the same thing until the msg disappears. If it still doesn't, then I lower bus a bitthis msg appear in CMOS --> "warning!! your system running safe mode. please setup CPU host clock" when i press F1 to continue, window can load but the processor speed was back to 1.9GHZ. when i restart it and check in bios, the CPU FSB show in bios still is 290MHZ... after reboot msg --> "warning!! your system running safe mode. please setup CPU host clock" still appear in CMOS and when load into window, it still show 1.9GHZ and CPUZ show 200x9.5. then i have to reset bios to default by using load optimise default; msg --> "warning!! your system running safe mode. please setup CPU host clock" disappear from CMOS when boot; and i have to set FSB, 200, 220, 250, 270, 290 and restart for few times to get my window load at 2.75GHZ.... crazy... i'm not sure where was wrong.... izzit coz by bios version? help... |
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Jul 11 2007, 01:20 PM
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8tvt,
The latest BIOS has cpu multiplier? You said that the multiplier is X9, X10 something like that but no 'half˛'. Does that mean our Brisbane is not using X9.5 anymore? |
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Jul 11 2007, 01:50 PM
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QUOTE(soulfly @ Jul 11 2007, 01:33 PM) i think what he mean was the new bios does not support half-multiplier options. but probably u will still have 9.5x multi when running default speed. I see. By default, we still running at x9.5, but if we choose to change the cpu multiplier, the only option is those numbers with no +0.5 in the back Let say I've OCed my cpu, can I just flash the BIOS just like that? I mean in DOS, not windows or do I need to downclock, and start all over again? |
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Jul 11 2007, 03:13 PM
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Just flash the new R69AM605.BST, but so sad all set to default value, is it normal? Thus I need to OC again, and I did
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Jul 11 2007, 03:50 PM
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