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post Nov 27 2018, 01:01 PM

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QUOTE(cucubud @ Nov 27 2018, 12:10 PM)
Managed to get some ASM3 10 minutes ago.
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You'll have it everyday.
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post Nov 27 2018, 08:36 PM

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QUOTE(savvyaunty @ Nov 27 2018, 08:09 PM)
Bank teller straight say no quota. Don't even think about trying
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They will either try once or act to try once , haha
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post Nov 30 2018, 04:28 PM

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SARA 2 surpass 1.0 mark after 2 months.
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post Nov 30 2018, 04:42 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Nov 30 2018, 04:32 PM)
good news...

but wrong thread boss...

this correct thread => https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/4681522  icon_rolleyes.gif
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indeed good news.. wonder how the price being "lifted" as even high proportion % of bond/money market won't materialize that fast..

anyway it's already making money if we normalized the earnings, as SC being one-off.

ya knew about that thread, just extract for awareness if bored fishing FP and looking into other perspectives.
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post Nov 30 2018, 04:45 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Nov 30 2018, 04:40 PM)
just try only...
since someone mention don't waste time tying because no fund available..

btw just 15min hard work only... if more time is spend.. think how much I can get  brows.gif
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that's why mentioned earlier we can get it everyday.

surprise comes if dem whole day can't get any of it.
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post Nov 30 2018, 04:56 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Nov 30 2018, 04:49 PM)
well u know ASNB..
there's lack of transparency
I also not sure how really they count the NAV for VP... they don't publish the details publicly  cool2.gif
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ya in fact i did sent couple of emails to their officers asking for FP/VP transparency on the NAV

sadly their replies were so vague and lacking insights..
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post Dec 10 2018, 02:54 PM

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QUOTE(plumberly @ Dec 10 2018, 12:02 PM)
Just called the local ASNB and spoke to the manager.

* still no update from MS on the 2 regulations enforcement.
* when asked on how these 2 regulations will impact the funds, stated the FP to VP!
* advised me not to worry as there are many many many malaysians involved and the repercussion will be huge.

Remember the earlier thread on my call to ASNB HQ and the lady said whether they change  or not will depend on what is stated in the prospectus (quoting the earlier case with one ASB fund)?

I did say do not that for granted and I am not liable for the outcome.  devil.gif

So, please dont kill this messenger. Do your own due diligence.  bruce.gif

Please keep threads related to this under control.  sweat.gif
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Ya it's not conclusive till todate

Best lucks for all
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post Dec 10 2018, 09:32 PM

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QUOTE(veera77 @ Dec 10 2018, 09:29 PM)
“Tabung Haji's shares in Bank Islam Malaysia Bhd (BIMB) were sold so as to show profit before being repurchased, which also incurred brokerage fees.”

"Although the above transactions appear commercial, we understand that the intention was to enable Tabung Haji to report higher profits for the purpose of distribution to the depositors.

https://www.malaysiakini.com/news/455525?ut...medium=facebook
This what im seriously worry if PNB doing the same trick...selectively realised profit to show profit and pay divided:(
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Even their spokesperson just said this is illegal in perspective of internal governance lol
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post Dec 11 2018, 04:29 PM

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BNM Governor Tan Sri Zeti Akhtar Aziz warned that Lembaga Tabung Haji (TH) was paying out dividends and bonuses using its reserves since 2012.

Read more at https://www.thestar.com.my/news/nation/2018...YxLXRJx5Wd43.99

Same for PNB, it did paying out dividends and bonuses using its reserves.
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post Dec 11 2018, 05:00 PM

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QUOTE(vanitas @ Dec 11 2018, 04:41 PM)
Pay using reserves isn't a problem, the keyword for TH is negative reserves.

If anyone not happy with reserves, can always buy UT or variable price fund, high transparency, no need to worry money don't know goes to where.
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It is not an issue, but continue paying using reserves could become issue like TH
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post Dec 11 2018, 06:32 PM

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QUOTE(vanitas @ Dec 11 2018, 05:15 PM)
http://www.asnb.com.my/v3_/pdf/media/berit...%20Briefing.pdf
Last page,
- assets  under  management  (AUM)  currently  exceeding  RM288.1 billion
- As at August 2018, ASNB has a total Unit in Circulation of 231.5 billion units

Still not satisfy and feel PNB is another TH, please sell all.
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don't be so sensitive if you are a guy..

even so what's the YTD cash reserve vs utilization vs actual P&L? without that we can't benchmark with TH
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post Dec 11 2018, 07:24 PM

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QUOTE(vanitas @ Dec 11 2018, 07:04 PM)
If you want all those info, buy UT or variable price fund, as simple as that.

Why don't you benchmark ASN (the best performing VP in ASNB) with TH? Dig that info and share to us.
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I hav no plan since beginning to dig that info but since you provide some data which not relevant that's why i ask.. if don't hav then is ok ya.. anyway pnb should really make you as ambassador since you sing praise song all the time for them..
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post Dec 11 2018, 08:41 PM

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QUOTE(vanitas @ Dec 11 2018, 07:31 PM)
Since when I sing praise song for them? I even ask you to sell all, buy UT.

Anyway, if you not willing to dig any info, then why ask info at the first place? Instead asking people spoon-fed, why don't take an initiative to share some useful info? It is highly relevant between fixed price and variable price fund, since it is under same umbrella.

Edit: if you got info from somewhere, it is running out of reserves, then you can share. Otherwise, you can accuse every companies as 1mdb, and this doesn't help anyone at all without proof.
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It's ok bro, being a sensitive guy will be less sensible at the same time.
That's why asking me to sell all FP and buy UT. Hehe
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post Dec 11 2018, 09:44 PM

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QUOTE(vanitas @ Dec 11 2018, 09:30 PM)
There is no best investment, hence no smarter or less sensible investor.

Buy UT is never a bad choice than FP, given investors want transparent information, and able to choose variety of funds according to what they need, e.g. oversea exposure, riskier equity, safer bond, etc. The average return of UT can be higher than FP double, triple or more, with chance of losing capital. At the end, FP is no different than UT rather than no transparent information.

Disclaimer: I hold some UT, and I won't said people less sensible for buying any investments (including FD) but not FP.
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Then why not you sell all FP and buy UT as previously advocates?
Is this sensible or not sensible.
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post Dec 11 2018, 10:19 PM

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QUOTE(vanitas @ Dec 11 2018, 10:03 PM)
I don't ask for all info, but you did, so I suggest you take UT instead.
It is sensible for you, because you can't stand low transparency, and feel asnb is like TH. And I know a lot of UT investors that didn't trust asnb fixed price like you, even accuse it was ponzi.
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Please check back, I didn't ask anything and just sharing the link and you already asked to sell all FP and buy UT instead. Im not sensible either, it just that someone being too sensitive.

How u know I didn't buy FP, how u know ppl calling it Ponzi but still buying it. How u know ppl vested in FP or not. Everyone has the choice not for you to conclude, as if you're sifu or investment.
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post Dec 11 2018, 10:53 PM

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QUOTE(vanitas @ Dec 11 2018, 10:24 PM)
- You did ask something, see quote above.
- I asking people to sell FP if feel it is like TH, nothing wrong with that. If got confidence, just keep, why is listen to me?
- I didn't claim I know all the things you mentioned, I even mention every investment is not a bad choice, only you saying dump FP into UT is less sensible.
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It's less complicated than pusing like roti canai, just read #2496-99.
You are right, nothing wrong being sensitive actually.
Even less sensible cause no harm to the society.

If feels like TH then has to sell all and buy UT, then why TH investors still not moving their funds into UT?
If you recommended that and did not happen, what to achieve in the end of the day?
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post Dec 12 2018, 03:12 AM

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QUOTE(vanitas @ Dec 11 2018, 11:08 PM)
It is just a suggestion, recommendation, for those with less confident on asnb, or feel it has negative reserves.

Anyway, for TH case, then you need to ask them. If it is me and qualify for that, provided no rescue plan proposed, I already move TH money into asb, asb2, or even asb3, but not UT (yet), because I still got confident on asnb.

As for what to achieve? Ask yourself too. This is internet, freedom of speech, no need specific reason.
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Still can't quite get the rationale to sell all FP and buy UT.

And stand corrected that using reserves to pay dividends in TH was happened to ASNB as well. Nothing wins all the time, regardless of ur contident level
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post Dec 21 2018, 12:57 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Dec 21 2018, 12:33 PM)
huh first time I saw this kind of reply..
it's meaning No more stock already  rolleyes.gif  sweat.gif

if u really want.. then go visit to ASNB branch...

but I tell u.. don't be disappointed with the print paper quality of the calendars  innocent.gif
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well what so special about this pnb calendars. the general content also not meant for non bumi.

simply drive to any eco world galleries every year and the print quality and design is simply amazing.
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post Dec 21 2018, 12:59 PM

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QUOTE(vanitas @ Dec 21 2018, 12:38 PM)
No free lunch in this world, the calendars they are getting is from what they invested.

Those who didn't ask (like me), paid for others.
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every investors paid for it.

hence everyone has equal right to request for it.


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post Dec 21 2018, 01:00 PM

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QUOTE(mushigen @ Dec 21 2018, 12:57 PM)
Tried buying ASM, got the message "transaction not able to proceed" every time I tried.
Trying the rest just gave the usual "no unit" messages.
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asm was suspended no matter how hard you try.

asm 2 and asm 3 u were not tried hard enuf.

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