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post Feb 22 2019, 11:19 AM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Feb 22 2019, 11:07 AM)
Affects your units?
Sure your total balance reduced 😑
Like u have 25k balance. Withdraw 5k.. Balance become 20k 🙏
Dividends based on 20k 😊
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ehhh that 5k still get dividend until the month before withdrawal and as long as still got balance inside, right?

and out of curiosity, what if :
1k ASM2
1k ASM3

if withdraw 1k ASM2 but ASM3 still 1k intact, do I still get dividends for ASM2 once it's declared?
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post Feb 22 2019, 11:23 AM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Feb 22 2019, 11:21 AM)
Lulz..
Both different funds..
Not related to each other leh
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ok. means must be same fund only will get lah.

I'm new mah. I don't know if that "1 universal account" applies to dividends as well, i.e. as long as universal account not empty, then can entitle.
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post Feb 22 2019, 11:31 AM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Feb 22 2019, 11:26 AM)
1 universal account number for administration purpose only... And also linked easily to LHDN & BNM 😈😈

Previously each fund have different number.. Big headache... 5 account, 5 different numbers 😴😴
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wahhh okok. thank you ah. Can ask another question ah? Maybe can benefit newbies also.

Do they still give physical passbooks like the bank savings account one? They didn't give me, so I'm sure if I go back to the bank branch I opened, they'll say no also. So I try ask here.

And how you experts find out ASM1 is "suspended" ah? Insider news? Strange that the MyASNB site allows me to buy but always 0. Have a hundred bucks lying around, thought want to sapu 100 unit first.

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post Feb 22 2019, 12:26 PM

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QUOTE(RViN @ Feb 22 2019, 12:13 PM)
By the way when got people say here "I managed to get funds" it doesn't really mean anything lah, its still based on luck.

I got try RM100, go through then immediately click back and try higher amount and it fails. Sometimes in a few seconds itself can run out.

So don't get upset and frustrated if you see people here say they get and you can't manage to get, just keep trying lah. All depends on luck & timing.
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yeah it seemed like the whole 1msia are buying. it'll be more and more difficult to buy as time goes because people will be holding on for eternity until they need money and couldn't source it elsewhere. Nonetheless, I'll give this a try (as in, trying to buy more when my FD matures). If too difficult, might just move into EPF. Capital 100% guaranteed, even smaller risk.

QUOTE(BoloY @ Feb 22 2019, 12:24 PM)
ASM can wait on 1/4 liao.

Don’t know why it’s suspended but definitely something to do with fund size.
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yeah i read Apr 1. just strange that they don't suspend buying on MyASNB site.

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post Feb 22 2019, 03:13 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Feb 22 2019, 12:35 PM)
Sorry.. No more issuing passbook.... It's all electronic way 😑
Just give account number only...

Well ASM1 being suspended is from our fellow forumner friend working in asnb... Even if units available.. Its would be sudden & on Sunday morning... Unexpected time... Those lurking around lowyat can catch that moment.. Those didn't login or lurk around missed the chance 😈
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ahhhh ok. thanks again.

I lurk at unearthly hours before they open for trade tongue.gif But I'll just give a try, just for the sake of trying. 100 bucks only. when gaji masuk or FD mature, then I go for ASM2 and ASM3.
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post Feb 22 2019, 03:22 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Feb 22 2019, 03:18 PM)
Well u try this Sunday... Maybe they suddenly open 😑
Odd days 😈
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yes will do, whenever I'm too free on Sunday. I'll only feedback if successful.

Edit : I just called them and they say if suspended, then won't be able to click "Additional Investment" (and for my case, I assume Initial Investment is as good as that). This fund is very old, maybe all the gurus already bought and put them in cold storage, very little floating for sale?

This is the best customer support line I've called. No need to press a dozen numbers before I get to speak to someone. Haha.

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QUOTE(beefburger @ Feb 22 2019, 03:36 PM)
Thanks for the answer! So I can invest in it and if I need the money I can take it out anytime.
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I think when it's suspended for dividend payment then you cannot sell to cash out
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post Feb 22 2019, 05:54 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Feb 22 2019, 05:48 PM)
yes. Maybank can open. but would the staff help u  devil.gif  brows.gif  cool2.gif

try ASNB better chance. or just open variable pricing funds like Sara 2. minimal amount is sufficient enough.

more info. please read page 1
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eh when I opened my account, they say Sara 2 minimum 10k. I didn't bother to check/argue because I am prepared to lose the entire 100 bucks for the account opening, so any funds would do. End up with Imbang 2.

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Just go for any funds that accept the minimum initial investment for account opening loh.
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post Feb 22 2019, 06:26 PM

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QUOTE(abcn1n @ Feb 22 2019, 06:17 PM)
If want to withdraw ASM3/ASW:

a)  need to go to the branch or can I do it online?

b) Can I ask them to transfer directly to Maybank or other banks or it must be in bankers cheque/cash?
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a) goto agent bank

b) have to wait for other experts to answer. newbie here

QUOTE(nexona88 @ Feb 22 2019, 05:56 PM)
huh..
mau cheat also logic leh...
even 1k min also people won't fall for the trap. 10k???? really water fish if fell into the trap  devil.gif
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all the not well educated one will just trust what the bank teller says. like the FD, got monthly interest and interest on maturity, if don't ask, they just give the maturity one. Monthly interest can be used to topup for other FD mah, indirectly higher interest.
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post Feb 22 2019, 06:57 PM

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Large amount still better to use account or cheque loh. This year any cash more than 25k need declaration when you bank in later. As long as you leave behind your money trail la.
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post Feb 23 2019, 12:20 PM

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QUOTE(MGM @ Feb 23 2019, 11:14 AM)
Are ASx n EPF heavily invested in Axiata?

https://www.msn.com/en-my/news/national/axi...VP0b?li=BBr8Hnu
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Feb 23 2019, 11:39 AM)
If not mistaken ASx fund is among the top 10 shareholders
With ASB in top 3 position 😈 after khazanah, EPF 💩
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https://klse.i3investor.com/servlets/staticfile/326213.jsp > Integrated Annual Report 2017.pdf > Page 17

No need to stun la. They already publish quarterly result. 5b is for the entire year and the final quarter's loss was 2b. Got 4.5 cents dividend coming. They say expect a good year this year. Monday see how KLSE reacts then can confirm it's good or bad. People don't just look at net profit/loss. They look at the apa nama revenue, potential revenue growth, reason for loss (most are one off) and a few other things.

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QUOTE(DBHILUHDAQWISRTNJ @ Feb 23 2019, 12:46 PM)
I agree . U ada do homework.
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thanks unker. I always see price go down despite profits (due to lower revenue forecast), or price go up despite a loss (lower than forecasted loss, one-off loss, etc).

And to everyone who's reading, after some research on EPF, any form of contribution will have 70% locked in Account 1. Any form of withdrawal will be from Account 2 until Age 55, unless total is above $1m. To cut the story short, EPF is safer than ASN because it's fully guaranteed by the govt and maybe even higher dividends, but any additional self contribution will also result in 70% of our liquid funds locked in Account 1 until we qualify for withdrawal. So I guess better stay with ASNB IF manage to buy, to balance between safety/dividends and liquidity tongue.gif

QUOTE(gilabola @ Feb 23 2019, 12:49 PM)
There is a trade off. When you key in small amounts (eg 1k) you are more likely to get it more frequently

When you key in big amounts, it takes a very long time to get lucky. If you have 13 hours, you can try big amounts

If you have 30 minutes, small amounts increases your chance of getting something.
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true, but small amounts also very fast snapped up. that day when I failed to buy 500 units because forgotten to increase FPX transaction limit, retry no more already. so might even take longer to reach the amount he bought if buy in small amounts.

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post Feb 24 2019, 11:35 AM

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That day MGM says Johor banks and PNB closed on Sundays. So we're left with a few northern states + terengganu where majority are bumis.

Question : From somewhere I read, ASM1 2 3 have 51% quota for bumiputra during the initial offer. By now, are nonbumi allowed to buy from bumiputra? Or bumiputra can sell to bumiputra only? If bumi to bumi, then I don't think there's much chance on Sunday.

Edit : Just checked that initial investment on MyASNB is $150 for Sara and Imbang 1. Definitely not 10k for Sara as the bank said. But since they accepted 100 bucks for Imbang 2 (assuming all initial investments for VP units are $150), I think that's a discount to MyASNB online. Probably $10 is from years ago when $10 can buy 3-4 decent meals.

Can I also ask why everyone prefers ASNB over EPF? Is it because of the withdrawal constraints (other than those already allowed by EPF like buy house, education, etc) such as 1m+, certain age (age 50 can withdraw from account 2 only)?

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post Feb 24 2019, 01:46 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Feb 24 2019, 01:22 PM)
beLIEve
Non bumi cannot buy bumi quota units.. No matter what... ASM1 don't have any quota...

Why ASx over EPF?.. Easier withdrawal if u needed the $$...
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thanks!

QUOTE(DBHILUHDAQWISRTNJ @ Feb 24 2019, 01:32 PM)
EPF ,once $ go in only after 55 years old can enjoy . Good for those ppl hand always itch , but limit only 60k per year.
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hehe. my hands itching now, but not on spending. For higher rates and 0 risk.

I researched, 60k is self contribution. If from salary, can sailang everything after PCB tax [If only you opt to contribute at a rate exceeding the statutory rate, you may submit a notice of election to contribute at a rate exceeding the statutory rate using Form KWSP 17A (AHL)]. When need money only revert back to statutory rate.

one thing to note : ASNB dividend calculated from 1st day of month. EPF from last day of month. So cannot fail to buy ASNB then dump into EPF.

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post Feb 24 2019, 06:19 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Feb 24 2019, 05:46 PM)
Confirmed no fee if unsuccessful???
Double check your transactions history.... Maybe hidden somewhere 😈

If true.. Might use as alternative if MyASNB portal have issues 😑
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https://www.maybank2u.com.my/mbb_info/m2u/p.../INV-Investment

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Fees & Charges  The transaction fee is RM1.00 (inclusive GST) per successsful transaction.


Edit : Wahhh Maybank2me power la. I never even add my week-old ASNB account and it already add for me.

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post Feb 24 2019, 06:41 PM

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QUOTE(fairylord @ Feb 24 2019, 06:30 PM)
What is maybank2me = m2u?
Only ASB and ASM1 oh?
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yes, m2me=m2u

Aiyah. Potong stim. Missed that line. Seems like only the bumi-only and AS1M funds can. Tomorrow I give a try for ASM123 la. See lepas or not. Unless anyone who generously paid $1 can confirm now.

Edit :
https://www.maybank2u.com.my/iwov-resources...NB/ASNB_TnC.pdf

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4. This online transaction is available to all ASNB funds. The subscriptions are subject to the individual investment eligible limit and fund availability. You are required to refer to ASNB website for the latest update on fund availability status.

12. Fee of RM1.00 per transaction.
I guess still have to try to know. Sometimes website and T&C out of sync. don't know which one is latest.

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QUOTE(vin_ann @ Feb 24 2019, 06:46 PM)
For reference
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Thanks. Can I know how fast is the reversal? Or in other words, how fast to know the status if buying successful or not?
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QUOTE(vin_ann @ Feb 24 2019, 06:52 PM)
Basically on the spot I know my transaction was not successful
No balance deducted

The transactions as printscreen updated later (dun know how long it reflect to account as I no monitor nor takenote of it)
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Ok, thanks bro. I thought Maybank will help me queue smile.gif

https://www.maybank2u.com.my/maybank2u/mala...ASAAEgJYT_D_BwE

You can now top-up ASNB funds at your convenience via Maybank2u or Maybank ATM. Top-up a minimum of RM100 now and stand a chance to win ASNB units.

Campaign period: 18 December 2018 – 31 March 2019


Top-up a minimum of RM100 in your ASNB funds via M2U or ATM and RM50 ASNB units will be rewarded for every 1,000th transaction made. Limited to a total of 1,000 winners on first come first served basis. One account holder can win more than once.
Exclusive for existing customers. You can top-up via M2U or ATM, 20 lucky winners will be selected randomly and rewarded with RM500 ASNB units.

fairylord This is the latest. ASM12 also can. ASM3 not mentioned, don't know ter-left out or intentional.

QUOTE(nexona88 @ Feb 24 2019, 06:53 PM)
Its linked automatically...
Even u top up / withdrawn... Also updated instantly 👍

Which also confirmed my doubt...
Its also linked to LHDN & BNM... They can see like what displayed in M2U 😑
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Actually, Maybank2me is very very well linked. You can even see your TNB balance. And when you pay from Maybank2me, it's updated on TNB instantly. Even Maxis receive the payment a few mins later. Don't play play.

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post Feb 24 2019, 07:00 PM

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QUOTE(dlttdltt @ Feb 24 2019, 06:55 PM)
M2u no need captcha and no charges if unsuccessful. So tmrow will use m2u yahoo
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Take note it's every transaction. As long as you don't mind.....if can sapu 5 digit ok la. if 1000 1000, costly also.
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post Feb 24 2019, 07:19 PM

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QUOTE(dlttdltt @ Feb 24 2019, 07:16 PM)
Costly ? I'll try for 1000 only. If successful it will be 1001 only rite ?
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yes bro. if 1000 units I rather key in captcha from asnb site. but your choice la.

Costly = if you buy multiples of 1000 eventually.

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