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> Ultimate Discussions of ASNB Fixed Price UT, Magical UT only in Malaysia

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post Nov 15 2018, 10:20 PM

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QUOTE(michael5 @ Nov 15 2018, 09:29 PM)
Any recommended for VP fund? Or which VP fund is available now?
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Just to open account and buy FP fund? Any VP fund will do.
If want to invest, don't look at VP fund, performance no good.
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post Nov 15 2018, 10:29 PM

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QUOTE(Ancient-XinG- @ Nov 15 2018, 09:56 PM)
Woot Woot.

Only 1 day no see thread so many reply on props.

Now I suppose times had change, flip prop is very old trick to get rich. And Developer is the one causing this. Physical gold, props. All not viable.

Rental market also kena press. Mainly because our gov no any regulation on it and prop owner always at losing end. I also fedup with my tenant. So many troubles.

Post 2014, the price also stagnant for some sub urb. But some ong place the price still shoot up. Unless the town really dead la.

Props? Better go REITS!
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The term is limited. Gold is limited, so it must be expensive. Property land is limited, so it should be expensive. Bitcoin is limited, and you knows the story.

It was the same reason the speculative investors flip the price.
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post Nov 16 2018, 08:29 AM

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QUOTE(propertyowner @ Nov 16 2018, 12:29 AM)
If u did the study or have some knowledge in trade markets, REIT is different from ASTRO.

Also SUNREIT for instance, its capital is relatively stable with consistent dividend payout.
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With almost the same return, while I agree that REIT is relatively low risk, but ASNB got no risk. REIT can buy anytime, ASNB cannot.

This explains which is more preferable for most people.
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post Nov 16 2018, 10:51 AM

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QUOTE(fairylord @ Nov 16 2018, 10:49 AM)
Boss, within 3 min u tried 2 funds also available oh..Lucky day for u.
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It was bumi quota.

So, asm no available fund is still a mystery...
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post Nov 16 2018, 10:59 AM

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QUOTE(lucifah @ Nov 16 2018, 10:56 AM)
nope. it's not a mystery. it is just fully subscribed. that's all

even ASB2 once also kena fully subscribed due to very limited fund size, even though the limit is 200k per account

u just have to accept that there's many of cash rich investors outisde (and also inside here)
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Asm2 and asm3 also fully subscribed. But as long as people selling, then I could get. Usually within 30 mins attempts could get.

For asm it is entirely different case, no forumers here been able to top up even RM 100 for 3 months.
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post Nov 16 2018, 11:10 AM

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QUOTE(lucifah @ Nov 16 2018, 11:02 AM)
then the simple explanation is that the current subsrcibed amount > 94% of the fund size liao

that's why they are freezing it since a dividend announcement of 6% will most likely exceed the fund size liao

so they only allow withdrawals at the moment

like i explained before, it happened with ASB2 few months back

that's the only explanation i can extract from PNB officers
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This reason sounds acceptable.
E.g. ASM fund size previously 100, now 95 (losing money in bursa, who knows). And current subscribed amount is 90.

QUOTE(lucifah @ Nov 16 2018, 11:04 AM)
plus, why want to aim for ASM when ASM2 & ASM3 gives equally the same return rates?

i dont understand at all
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Different dividend date. But I am helping to reason out why cannot subscribe only, not I desperately want asm.
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post Nov 16 2018, 01:52 PM

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Good to have uncle here. Look at the setup, it tooks time just to take the screenshot.

Anyway, some banks (cimb afaik) already using mobile app to generate verification code instead of TAC kan? If really afraid TAC got problem, why don't make use the latest technology.
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post Nov 16 2018, 02:50 PM

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QUOTE(DBHILUHDAQWISRTNJ @ Nov 16 2018, 02:07 PM)
I prefer tac to proceed payment , feel secure.
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No worry, a lot of people also like uncle.

This is also one of the reasons that Malaysia can't become cashless society easily. High fraud rate, lack of trust...
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post Nov 16 2018, 04:13 PM

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Successfully top up 4 digits after 4pm...
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post Nov 16 2018, 04:17 PM

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QUOTE(DBHILUHDAQWISRTNJ @ Nov 16 2018, 04:12 PM)
S.A.C. Capital Advisors average annual return 30%. Gila.
The company started trading with $25 million in 1992, grew AUM to $16 billion, and became the world's highest-returning hedge fund: SAC averaged annual returns of 30% net of fees under a 3% management fee and 50% performance fee from 1992 to 2013.
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Uncle, this one more well known, Malaysians should know,
https://www.investopedia.com/university/gre...georgesoros.asp

The Soros Fund eventually became the Quantum Fund, and along the way Soros built his company into an aggressive and highly successful hedge fund that sported average annual returns of more than 30% per year. On two separate occasions, Soros’ fund posted gains of more than 100%.

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post Nov 16 2018, 04:19 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Nov 16 2018, 04:17 PM)
aiyo..
which fund leh??
next time post.. clearly say which fund... because we got 2 fund toping up  biggrin.gif
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Asm2, but fish will gone very fast, said liao also no use.
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post Nov 16 2018, 04:35 PM

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QUOTE(DBHILUHDAQWISRTNJ @ Nov 16 2018, 04:31 PM)
If can buy like asnb minimum rm100 , then we buy small small.  Return more than 30% wo , irresistible return.
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Later uncle arrested for treason.
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post Nov 16 2018, 04:38 PM

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QUOTE(DBHILUHDAQWISRTNJ @ Nov 16 2018, 04:37 PM)
Har? Malaysian not allow to buy those fund ar ??
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No, I blow water only. Haha..
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post Nov 16 2018, 04:41 PM

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QUOTE(DBHILUHDAQWISRTNJ @ Nov 16 2018, 04:39 PM)
Walao , scare die me .
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Lol.. like uncle already top up USD 1m there.
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post Nov 16 2018, 04:52 PM

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QUOTE(DBHILUHDAQWISRTNJ @ Nov 16 2018, 04:45 PM)
Hahahhaha , goreng till pocket broken oso don't have 1m USD.

To be honest , those mat Salle fund annual return more than 30% wo . C beh attractive.

100k keep 3 years become 219700.
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You know, who invented money, currency, stock, even the whole financial system, and recently bitcoin.. is mat salleh..
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post Nov 16 2018, 06:22 PM

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QUOTE(propertyowner @ Nov 16 2018, 06:10 PM)
Ya always good to have some sort of diversification.

To some point, I still think it is "easy" to get ASM as long we are consistent enough to purchase it online.

In a month anyone can also reach his purchase target.

Many of my coliqs did it from zero to 6 digits and eventually they also get bored topping up anymore. Lol
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It is easy only starting this few years.

Manually key in of course bored..
some more previously can enter 4-5 digits per try due to a lot of bullets, now less bullets, 3-4 digits per try, and time used is the same, who doesn't bore...
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post Nov 16 2018, 06:24 PM

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QUOTE(fairylord @ Nov 16 2018, 06:21 PM)
Hope I have boring day soon.
I think unker start boring.
Now start looking better pool to fish.
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Uncle no bullets, no bore actually.. Takkan top up RM100 only, and key in catpcha 30 mins...
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post Nov 16 2018, 06:31 PM

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QUOTE(propertyowner @ Nov 16 2018, 06:27 PM)
Sometimes 3 digits are a waste of time.

Just accumulate till 8888 or 9999 as baseline and we will get through 6 digit in ASNB by less than 10 counts.

Some ppl "use" their interns / SL1M during ofc hour to key in captcha and it even faster.
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Well, for me is the same. I don't spend any time on captcha game.

I am just reason out why your colleagues feel bored, after accumulating 6 digits.
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post Nov 16 2018, 06:34 PM

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QUOTE(DBHILUHDAQWISRTNJ @ Nov 16 2018, 06:32 PM)
Few months ago , i did a silly thing.
from morning till 4pm non stop top up rm100. 
Around 33 times successfully top up , all rm100 per shot.
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And (may) won a car from FPX contest. LOL

This post has been edited by vanitas: Nov 16 2018, 06:34 PM
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post Nov 16 2018, 06:45 PM

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QUOTE(propertyowner @ Nov 16 2018, 06:39 PM)
True. And surprisingly many still not aware of myASNB online portal.

Hence will be over excited at the beginning and tend to slow down afterwards. Feel it is cute to note but it's true to observe. Haha
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Not everyone got free time to top up. Even they know, might not always have extra money.

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