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post Oct 13 2018, 04:55 PM

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QUOTE(syk @ Oct 13 2018, 01:33 PM)
What is your budget & what kind of usage for the DSLR?
Mirrorless is one of the option, but the only issue is low battery life.
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Budget sure is low low loh,maybe 2k ++ , I don't mine used unit.
Mainly Is for travel .
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QUOTE(deric79k @ Oct 13 2018, 04:54 PM)
I hear many ppl say canon 24-105 very good
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Not a bad zoom lens. F3.5. If you wanna take portraits of anything you're gonna need to stand pretty far away. Also 24mm on a crop sensor isn't great for landscape. You win some, you lose some. (expensive too)

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post Oct 13 2018, 08:34 PM

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QUOTE(deric79k @ Oct 13 2018, 04:55 PM)
Budget sure is low low loh,maybe 2k ++ , I don't mine used unit.
Mainly Is for travel .
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With that kind of budget, your choice are limited.
If you are new to photography, suggest you buy new set since warranty is covered.
For DSLR, you may consider for 200D with kit lens, but you need to test the feel of grip on your hand.
If grip is too small for your hand, you may consider for 800D with kit lens.
If you interested on mirrorless system, M50 with kit lens is highly recommended. (This is Canon best selling model)


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post Oct 13 2018, 11:17 PM

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QUOTE(Axelredan @ Oct 13 2018, 07:07 PM)
Not a bad zoom lens. F3.5. If you wanna take portraits of anything you're gonna need to stand pretty far away. Also 24mm on a crop sensor isn't great for landscape. You win some, you lose some. (expensive too)
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used unit around RM1500++.

Quite heavy also .


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post Oct 13 2018, 11:20 PM

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QUOTE(syk @ Oct 13 2018, 08:34 PM)
With that kind of budget, your choice are limited.
If you are new to photography, suggest you buy new set since warranty is covered.
For DSLR, you may consider for 200D with kit lens, but you need to test the feel of grip on your hand.
If grip is too small for your hand, you may consider for 800D with kit lens.
If you interested on mirrorless system, M50 with kit lens is highly recommended. (This is Canon best selling model)
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Yes, I am new, that's why also looking for a sifu to teach me , or any beginner class,

If get 200D new set, I can get used unit for 70D or 80D which still have warranty as well.
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QUOTE(deric79k @ Oct 13 2018, 11:20 PM)
Yes, I am new, that's why also looking for a sifu to teach me , or any beginner class,

If get 200D new set, I can get used unit for 70D or 80D which still have warranty as well.
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FYI mirrorless cameras having low battery isnt really true anymore. Most mirrorless cameras usually come bundled with extra battery. With the 2 batteries i can easily last it a day (500+ shots)
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post Oct 14 2018, 05:01 PM

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My advice is simply to research the models of mirrorless or dslr you like. Then go to shops in sunway pyramid or big shopping malls and test the cameras in the showroom out. Thats one way of finding out what you want. Dont forget to budget in your lenses too.
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If you get 3-4 used primes maybe you can get away with 1k-1.2k on lenses which will cover most of your photography requirements. If you want one single lens to do it all be prepared to spend 1.5k and upward and it still wont cover all photography needs like 3-4 primes would (like fish eye architecture or ultra bokeh portraits).
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post Oct 14 2018, 06:11 PM

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200D / M50 is a good buy..

I'm having yn 35mm f2, canon 50mm f1.8 stm, canon 24mm f2.8 stm and now sigma 30mm f1.4..

30mm is still my ideal focal range for apsc.
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QUOTE(Axelredan @ Oct 14 2018, 04:54 PM)
FYI mirrorless cameras having low battery isnt really true anymore. Most mirrorless cameras usually come bundled with extra battery. With the 2 batteries i can easily last it a day (500+ shots)
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Thanks for your info and sharing .
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post Oct 14 2018, 11:31 PM

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QUOTE(Axelredan @ Oct 14 2018, 05:01 PM)
My advice is simply to research the models of mirrorless or dslr you like. Then go to shops in sunway pyramid or big shopping malls and test the cameras in the showroom out. Thats one way of finding out what you want. Dont forget to budget in your lenses too.
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now I am consider canon M50 , 70 D or 80D .

M50 weight is good for travel .
70 and 80D is heavy,

Lens i do some survery , many ppl say 24-105 is good
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QUOTE(Axelredan @ Oct 14 2018, 05:03 PM)
If you get  3-4 used primes maybe you can get away with 1k-1.2k on lenses which will cover most of your photography requirements. If you want one single lens to do it all be prepared to spend 1.5k and upward and it still wont cover all photography needs like 3-4 primes would (like fish eye architecture or ultra bokeh portraits).
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I think I really need attend a course or find a teacher .

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QUOTE(kidmad @ Oct 14 2018, 06:11 PM)
200D / M50 is a good buy..

I'm having yn 35mm f2, canon 50mm f1.8 stm, canon 24mm f2.8 stm and now sigma 30mm f1.4..

30mm is still my ideal focal range for apsc.
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So many lens u have, but if bring all to travel, too heavy also ,
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post Oct 15 2018, 06:51 AM

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QUOTE(deric79k @ Oct 14 2018, 11:33 PM)
So many lens u have, but if bring all to travel, too heavy also ,
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I'll only bring 30mm + 50mm.. the other 2 will be selling them
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QUOTE(deric79k @ Oct 14 2018, 11:31 PM)
now I am consider canon M50 , 70 D or 80D .

M50 weight is good for travel .
70 and 80D is heavy,

Lens i do some survery , many ppl say 24-105 is good
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24-105 is for full frame. If you put it on crop frame, it will become a standard-tele zoom instead of wide-tele zoom. The sharpness will not be as good, as the pixel pitch is much smaller so defect in glass is more obvious.
For EF-S, you have the following choices:
Canon 18-55 f3.5-5.6 IS STM
Canon 18-135 f3.5-5.6 IS STM
Canon 15-85 f3.5-5.6 IS USM
Canon 17-55 f2.8 IS USM
Sigma 17-70 f2.8-4 OS HSM
Sigma 17-50 f2.8 OS HSM
Tamron 17-50 f2.8 VC/No-VC
Legendary Sigma 18-35 f1.8 Art

If you are getting the 18-35/18-55/18-135, the 35mm focal length is ~30mm on widest end, even narrower than phones. In this case, you might want to get a EF-S 10-18 IS STM or 10-22 USM for wide angle.

P/S : EOS M system is lacking of big aperture lens for you to upgrade later, while their DSLR is way behind of what mirrorless from other brands can offer now, i.e. inaccurate focus, worse image & video quality. I used to use Canon for few years but give up on them due to their unwillingness to push their technology envelope in their body.

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QUOTE(kidmad @ Oct 15 2018, 06:51 AM)
I'll only bring 30mm + 50mm.. the other 2 will be selling them
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Okok, noted,

Why want sell it away?
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post Oct 21 2018, 11:39 AM

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QUOTE(kingkingyyk @ Oct 15 2018, 08:58 AM)
24-105 is for full frame. If you put it on crop frame, it will become a standard-tele zoom instead of wide-tele zoom. The sharpness will not be as good, as the pixel pitch is much smaller so defect in glass is more obvious.
For EF-S, you have the following choices:
Canon 18-55 f3.5-5.6 IS STM
Canon 18-135 f3.5-5.6 IS STM
Canon 15-85 f3.5-5.6 IS USM
Canon 17-55 f2.8 IS USM
Sigma 17-70 f2.8-4 OS HSM
Sigma 17-50 f2.8 OS HSM
Tamron 17-50 f2.8 VC/No-VC
Legendary Sigma 18-35 f1.8 Art

If you are getting the 18-35/18-55/18-135, the 35mm focal length is ~30mm on widest end, even narrower than phones. In this case, you might want to get a EF-S 10-18 IS STM or 10-22 USM for wide angle.

P/S : EOS M system is lacking of big aperture lens for you to upgrade later, while their DSLR is way behind of what mirrorless from other brands can offer now, i.e. inaccurate focus, worse image & video quality. I used to use Canon for few years but give up on them due to their unwillingness to push their technology envelope in their body.
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thanks for great advice, but i still blur blur , let me go canon centre ask ask first , and also look for a course or someone who willing teach me .


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post Oct 21 2018, 04:09 PM

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QUOTE(deric79k @ Oct 15 2018, 02:28 PM)
Okok, noted,

Why want sell it away?
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Focal range about the same so keeping the better ones.

You should look for G9x or G7x or rx100 m3. Compact camera with 1 inch sensor they really perform really well. I personally used rx100 m3. There picture quality was superb.

To be honest the kit lens will never be able to produce what you have in mind. No matter what camera I'm going for the lens option is the first I'll look for.
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post Oct 21 2018, 06:33 PM

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QUOTE(kidmad @ Oct 21 2018, 04:09 PM)
Focal range about the same so keeping the better ones.

You should look for G9x or G7x or rx100 m3. Compact camera with 1 inch sensor they really perform really well. I personally used rx100 m3. There picture quality was superb.

To be honest the kit lens will never be able to produce what you have in mind. No matter what camera I'm going for the lens option is the first I'll look for.
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today when to see canon M50, feel very nice, was thinking will get it , price around 2.7k with one lens .

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post Oct 21 2018, 07:36 PM

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QUOTE(deric79k @ Oct 21 2018, 06:33 PM)
today when to see canon M50, feel very nice, was thinking will get it , price around 2.7k with one lens .
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I got mine at rm20xx body only that's like 5/6 months back. Then Lazada order Viltrox ef-efm mount. You can start with kit lens la if budget is a concern.

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