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post Oct 10 2018, 10:15 PM, updated 8y ago

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Hi all sifu here,would like seeking advice from all of you .

I would like get one used unit Canon DSLR for travel , any suggestion? Canon 60D? Canon70D? Or canon 80D?
And which lens is suitable ?

Thanks in advance .


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post Oct 10 2018, 10:43 PM

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QUOTE(goldfries @ Oct 10 2018, 10:36 PM)
None of those suitable for travel unless you don't mind the weight.

I'd go with either the M50 or 200D.
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Thanks,

Weight should be ok,

If 200D vs 70D?

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post Oct 10 2018, 10:48 PM

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QUOTE(goldfries @ Oct 10 2018, 10:45 PM)
The 200D is Compact and 453g only,

The 70D on the other hand is semi-pro level 675g in weight, almost 50% additional weight there for body alone.
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Thanks, I will google see see,
But important is I need looking for one teacher to teach me how to use it .

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post Oct 11 2018, 12:22 PM

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QUOTE(goldfries @ Oct 10 2018, 11:22 PM)
Is there a reason why you're looking at DSLR?

Because if I were to travel and need a camera I'd go with Sony RX100 Mk III used unit for under RM 2k. biggrin.gif
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Because all the time I saw ppl playing DSLR was so nice. But I don’t have a talent on that. If I manage get one Sifu to guide me . I will go for it. At least can teach me some basic skill.

In my dream is I want take DSLR travel and catch some nice memory .
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post Oct 11 2018, 09:24 PM

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QUOTE(DS_Legacy @ Oct 11 2018, 03:09 PM)
Opt for a mirrorless instead. It's a lot lighter
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Thanks alots,any advice which model?
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post Oct 12 2018, 09:34 PM

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QUOTE(Axelredan @ Oct 12 2018, 02:43 AM)
Get a mirrorless. It'll basically function like a DSLR and you can use DSLR lenses and all types of lenses.

If you have to buy canon go with Canon EOS M50 or Canon EOS M6 (Used). Both are pretty great.

If you wanna go full frame mirrorless go with any of Sony A7 series. (Though lenses and everything will be more expensive in this route. Might as well go with Canon personally)
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Thanks for advice . So currently you also use I think ? Which lens is good ?
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post Oct 12 2018, 09:35 PM

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QUOTE(TrialGone @ Oct 12 2018, 03:54 PM)
Get Sony a6000 (or a6300 /6500 if u have budget) and couple of batteries. I would advice sticking with the kit lens cause it does its job. If u want bokeh, couple with 50mm, 35mm or sigma 30mm f1. 4 primes will do fine.

Canon M50 is also good choice but from the looks of Canon new FF mirror less with different mount, feels like M50 mount going to be killed.
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Sony is a good brand, but too bad I am canon lover
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post Oct 12 2018, 10:25 PM

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QUOTE(Axelredan @ Oct 12 2018, 10:17 PM)
I'm using an EOS M6. Get yourself a 50mm f1.8 EF lens. Then 22mm f2.0 lens EF-M lens (most versatile lens). These 2 lenses will cover 80% of all you wanna shoot and wont break the bank. If you wish to shoot architecture go with any 15mm lens and below. Later if you wish to take photos of birds, sports, etc you can get a telephoto.
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Wish to have one lens which can go travel ,
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post Oct 13 2018, 04:54 PM

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QUOTE(Axelredan @ Oct 13 2018, 02:41 AM)
As a photographer thats going to be difficult. However if you really want only 1 lens then Sigma 17-50mm f2.8 is your best bet. However expect it to be chunky and heavy
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I hear many ppl say canon 24-105 very good
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post Oct 13 2018, 04:55 PM

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QUOTE(syk @ Oct 13 2018, 01:33 PM)
What is your budget & what kind of usage for the DSLR?
Mirrorless is one of the option, but the only issue is low battery life.
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Budget sure is low low loh,maybe 2k ++ , I don't mine used unit.
Mainly Is for travel .
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post Oct 13 2018, 11:17 PM

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QUOTE(Axelredan @ Oct 13 2018, 07:07 PM)
Not a bad zoom lens. F3.5. If you wanna take portraits of anything you're gonna need to stand pretty far away. Also 24mm on a crop sensor isn't great for landscape. You win some, you lose some. (expensive too)
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used unit around RM1500++.

Quite heavy also .


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post Oct 13 2018, 11:20 PM

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QUOTE(syk @ Oct 13 2018, 08:34 PM)
With that kind of budget, your choice are limited.
If you are new to photography, suggest you buy new set since warranty is covered.
For DSLR, you may consider for 200D with kit lens, but you need to test the feel of grip on your hand.
If grip is too small for your hand, you may consider for 800D with kit lens.
If you interested on mirrorless system, M50 with kit lens is highly recommended. (This is Canon best selling model)
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Yes, I am new, that's why also looking for a sifu to teach me , or any beginner class,

If get 200D new set, I can get used unit for 70D or 80D which still have warranty as well.
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post Oct 14 2018, 11:28 PM

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QUOTE(Axelredan @ Oct 14 2018, 04:54 PM)
FYI mirrorless cameras having low battery isnt really true anymore. Most mirrorless cameras usually come bundled with extra battery. With the 2 batteries i can easily last it a day (500+ shots)
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Thanks for your info and sharing .
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post Oct 14 2018, 11:31 PM

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QUOTE(Axelredan @ Oct 14 2018, 05:01 PM)
My advice is simply to research the models of mirrorless or dslr you like. Then go to shops in sunway pyramid or big shopping malls and test the cameras in the showroom out. Thats one way of finding out what you want. Dont forget to budget in your lenses too.
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now I am consider canon M50 , 70 D or 80D .

M50 weight is good for travel .
70 and 80D is heavy,

Lens i do some survery , many ppl say 24-105 is good
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post Oct 14 2018, 11:32 PM

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QUOTE(Axelredan @ Oct 14 2018, 05:03 PM)
If you get  3-4 used primes maybe you can get away with 1k-1.2k on lenses which will cover most of your photography requirements. If you want one single lens to do it all be prepared to spend 1.5k and upward and it still wont cover all photography needs like 3-4 primes would (like fish eye architecture or ultra bokeh portraits).
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I think I really need attend a course or find a teacher .

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post Oct 14 2018, 11:33 PM

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QUOTE(kidmad @ Oct 14 2018, 06:11 PM)
200D / M50 is a good buy..

I'm having yn 35mm f2, canon 50mm f1.8 stm, canon 24mm f2.8 stm and now sigma 30mm f1.4..

30mm is still my ideal focal range for apsc.
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So many lens u have, but if bring all to travel, too heavy also ,
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post Oct 15 2018, 02:28 PM

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QUOTE(kidmad @ Oct 15 2018, 06:51 AM)
I'll only bring 30mm + 50mm.. the other 2 will be selling them
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Okok, noted,

Why want sell it away?
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QUOTE(kingkingyyk @ Oct 15 2018, 08:58 AM)
24-105 is for full frame. If you put it on crop frame, it will become a standard-tele zoom instead of wide-tele zoom. The sharpness will not be as good, as the pixel pitch is much smaller so defect in glass is more obvious.
For EF-S, you have the following choices:
Canon 18-55 f3.5-5.6 IS STM
Canon 18-135 f3.5-5.6 IS STM
Canon 15-85 f3.5-5.6 IS USM
Canon 17-55 f2.8 IS USM
Sigma 17-70 f2.8-4 OS HSM
Sigma 17-50 f2.8 OS HSM
Tamron 17-50 f2.8 VC/No-VC
Legendary Sigma 18-35 f1.8 Art

If you are getting the 18-35/18-55/18-135, the 35mm focal length is ~30mm on widest end, even narrower than phones. In this case, you might want to get a EF-S 10-18 IS STM or 10-22 USM for wide angle.

P/S : EOS M system is lacking of big aperture lens for you to upgrade later, while their DSLR is way behind of what mirrorless from other brands can offer now, i.e. inaccurate focus, worse image & video quality. I used to use Canon for few years but give up on them due to their unwillingness to push their technology envelope in their body.
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thanks for great advice, but i still blur blur , let me go canon centre ask ask first , and also look for a course or someone who willing teach me .


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post Oct 21 2018, 06:33 PM

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QUOTE(kidmad @ Oct 21 2018, 04:09 PM)
Focal range about the same so keeping the better ones.

You should look for G9x or G7x or rx100 m3. Compact camera with 1 inch sensor they really perform really well. I personally used rx100 m3. There picture quality was superb.

To be honest the kit lens will never be able to produce what you have in mind. No matter what camera I'm going for the lens option is the first I'll look for.
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today when to see canon M50, feel very nice, was thinking will get it , price around 2.7k with one lens .

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post Nov 19 2018, 11:46 PM

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QUOTE(Lovekiki1208 @ Nov 19 2018, 03:50 PM)
Firstly, It's depend on the Camera you prefer. If you choose DSLR, you can play around with lens. Canon DSLR are divided into Semi and Full. Semi type DSLR like X00D or X0D, there are limited lens you can enjoy, where as Full type DSLR have more range of lens you can play with.

When I travel, normally I will bring 3 lens, prime, Standard and Medium zoom and Telephoto. I use a lot Standard and Medium zoom lens during travelling.
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thanks thanks ,

now i was thinking buy canon M50,
actually i was totally dunno how to use , looking for a start course or guide .



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