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faizyunus
post Apr 2 2023, 04:09 AM

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QUOTE(Himekaido @ Apr 1 2023, 11:23 PM)
Once again I found that something is wrong with Time international link, it's been slow with high latency again O_o. Anyone else have issue currently?
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Yup. Noticed sudden slowdown to US Servers. Currently running some tests to confirm where the issue is coming from. I can only suspect its Singtel is experiencing network congestion.
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post Apr 6 2023, 02:56 AM

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QUOTE(e_mc_square @ Apr 5 2023, 09:26 PM)
Hmm... I am not sure if I know I am in public IP or not.
Because I can't connect to the ddns I generate. If I use VPN, then I can connect to the ddns.
Without VPN, seems all the port is blocked. 80, 8080, 21, 22, etc. Not sure why.

I just call and tell them "Please switch to Public IP" that's all?
Do you know a way how to check if current is Public IP or not?

Below are the tutorial I found, I wonder if this is a good way to tell I am in Public IP or not.  cry.gif
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Very simple way to check if you are on public IP or not.

Login to your router. Take note of WAN IP address:
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Then go and google : What is my IP
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If both of these IPs match, congrats you are on Public IP.



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post Apr 6 2023, 09:00 AM

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QUOTE(e_mc_square @ Apr 6 2023, 08:31 AM)
Ya, I checked, It is public IP.
I can't ping that public IP outside the network.
Not sure why. It was ok pass few days.
Looks like it is blocked by the CGNAT.

Haiz...
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Oh that is strange. My monitoring system still able to ping my network just fine.

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post Apr 6 2023, 01:04 PM

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QUOTE(e_mc_square @ Apr 6 2023, 10:48 AM)
My house PC can ping my office public IP
My office PC cannot ping my house public IP.
Both I use https://whatismyipaddress.com/ to get the public IP.

Sad man, I thought I finally can utilize my dust-collecting-PC in my house as a cloud server.
I was working fine last week. FTP, SSH, Nextcloud.

But... Really sad.
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Just out of curiosity, you mentioned ping your house public IP. Not sure if your router has this setting enabled or not?

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Usually I will never leave this setting enabled. I only enable when troubleshooting network issue.

Alternatively you can go with ZeroTier for remote access needs. For my network I use both OpenVPN and ZeroTier. Never exposed my devices directly to the internet for security reasons.

Hopefully TIME manages to resolve your issue.

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post Apr 6 2023, 08:36 PM

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QUOTE(e_mc_square @ Apr 6 2023, 05:47 PM)
I am using the default router Huawei HG8145X6
I see. That explains a lot. ISP provided routers have remote management which allow TIME to remotely configure the settings on the router.

QUOTE(e_mc_square @ Apr 6 2023, 05:47 PM)
I used a DDNS so that I got a domain that linked to my home public IP. Out of surprise, I found that router able to run a DDNS application. I setup gnuip/dynu. Can't run duckDNS.
DDNS consider safe?
Dynamic DNS is safe. Each router brand have their own set of Dynamic DNS providers that you can choose from so its hit or miss. Most would just run the client on their server/PC
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post Jun 13 2023, 06:46 PM

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I'm also experiencing slowdown accessing services hosted on UpCloud Servers in the US since last week. Fired up a server over there and ran a traceroute back to the TIME network and found the issue is likely caused by routing via Singtel because last time I checked it should route via NTT.

Already talked to both TIME CS and UpCloud Support with all the traceroute evidence. Both say no issue with routing and refuse to check any further.

Routing from TIME to UpCloud is routing via NTT so it looks ok.

However routing from UpCloud to TIME is routing via Singtel similar to previous occurrence back in January

Speeds I'm getting from UpCloud Chicago Servers:
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post Oct 5 2023, 10:59 PM

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QUOTE(Doomsday @ Oct 5 2023, 08:11 PM)
I hoping tomorrow they would came out with some new package.

I pending to apply Time fiber at another housing. Already terminate with incompetent Allo /city bodoband.
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Funny thing is I was having issue with TIME international routing back in June and January. Showed them evidence from my cloud provider that TIME is intentionally slowing down traffic and they refuse to do anything and kept blaming my cloud provider. Only when it was escalated to higher ups, only then they apologized and say cannot do anything about it. Switched to Allo after doing a bit of digging in regards to their upstream provider and slowness issue was immediately resolved.

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post Oct 5 2023, 11:42 PM

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QUOTE(Doomsday @ Oct 5 2023, 11:11 PM)
Hahah that's weird. Prolly their customer service already "slowly"
improving.
Btw how did you escalated to their upstream provider?
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No. I did not manage to escalate to any upstream provider as they will never respond to our emails. Only managed to escalate to the head of TIME CS where they finally admitted its their fault.

In regards to why I switched to Allo from TIME, I did a comparison between my cloud provider upstream provider and Allo's upstream provider and found one matching upstream provider, Cogent.

Ran a few traceroute and Speedtest.net CLI with help of my cloud provider, compared the results and found Allo & TM did not have the slowness issue. The most important thing for me is routing from US to Allo does not go through Singtel unlike TIME.

Below are some of the tests I ran from my end to cloud provider to Malaysia ISP. Since we are testing from Cloud Provider to Malaysia ISP, need to pay attention to their upload speed as this reflects our download speed.


Server: TIME MY - Kuala Lumpur (id: 50737)
ISP: UpCloud USA
Idle Latency: 222.12 ms (jitter: 278.90ms, low: 221.33ms, high: 778.09ms)
Download: 965.19 Mbps (data used: 1.5 GB)
456.87 ms (jitter: 87.18ms, low: 221.86ms, high: 1274.89ms)
Upload: 1.35 Mbps (data used: 2.4 MB)
379.59 ms (jitter: 82.17ms, low: 210.84ms, high: 1814.92ms)
Packet Loss: 6.3%
Result URL: https://www.speedtest.net/result/c/bd40b786...00-a1b0499d5a0d

root@faiztestserver-upcloud-us-chi1:~# speedtest -s 38751

Speedtest by Ookla

Server: Allo Technology - Cyberjaya (id: 38751)
ISP: UpCloud USA
Idle Latency: 224.45 ms (jitter: 0.08ms, low: 224.30ms, high: 224.53ms)
Download: 956.42 Mbps (data used: 1.4 GB)
346.29 ms (jitter: 78.47ms, low: 216.40ms, high: 482.85ms)
Upload: 408.33 Mbps (data used: 554.4 MB)
315.84 ms (jitter: 76.41ms, low: 210.94ms, high: 421.30ms)
Packet Loss: 0.0%
Result URL: https://www.speedtest.net/result/c/45205216...e9-2e5f1c0dea3d


Server: Telekom Malaysia Berhad - Kuala Lumpur (id: 19302)
ISP: UpCloud USA
Idle Latency: 225.20 ms (jitter: 1.23ms, low: 224.31ms, high: 227.02ms)
Download: 967.58 Mbps (data used: 1.4 GB)
379.37 ms (jitter: 80.42ms, low: 224.83ms, high: 538.81ms)
Upload: 374.70 Mbps (data used: 438.6 MB)
332.67 ms (jitter: 77.59ms, low: 222.09ms, high: 444.03ms)
Packet Loss: 0.0%
Result URL: https://www.speedtest.net/result/c/3038b947...cc-747f4d70029d

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post Jan 27 2024, 11:29 AM

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QUOTE(heLL_bOy @ Jan 27 2024, 10:07 AM)
can check that time speedtest no longer work anymore?
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No issue connecting to all 3 of their Speedtest.net Servers

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post Jan 31 2024, 10:54 PM

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QUOTE(blacktubi @ Jan 31 2024, 10:19 PM)
Look at how bad is the quality of TIME to Vultr US server when routed through NTT. Horrible.  puke.gif

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Yup. Same thing happening with Allo since they also use NTT as Upstream provider

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Luckily cloud provider was able to change routing to their other upstream, Cogent within 24 hours of reporting the issue.

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post Feb 1 2024, 08:07 PM

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QUOTE(CounterRealm @ Feb 1 2024, 07:59 AM)
Sorry I don’t quite understand what is this. Does that mean Time internet so bad? Or it is ok to use as normal usage?
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Not at all. Many ISPs use similar upstream providers with exception of big ISP like TM. Depending on which routing they choose to advertise, your experience may vary when accessing your favourite sites/game server etc.

What I'm showing is speedtest and traceroute from my cloud provider to my current ISP, Allo City Broadband which was having slowness issue because of NTT routing similar to what TIME uses.

I was just lucky that my cloud provider was able to change the routing to Allo's other upstream provider, Cogent which resolved the issue.

Since these routing issues happen every now and then, I have created a script that I can give to any cloud provider to run on their servers which will auto run Traceroute and speedtest-cli to Allo City Broadband Speedtest.net servers. This speeds up troubleshooting on their end.

You will need to do your homework before committing to any ISP. Generally, any ISP is ok for general use. The only other factor, is your budget.

Feel free to ask around and we will be glad to share our experience

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post May 11 2024, 01:15 PM

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QUOTE(jjj2 @ May 10 2024, 11:42 PM)
Couldn't agree more  tongue.gif
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Totally agree. I left TIME last year after experiencing similar issue for months and their canned response from both their CS and technical team. Never looked back after that.

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post May 11 2024, 03:45 PM

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QUOTE(blacktubi @ May 11 2024, 02:45 PM)
Which provider are you using now? Been contemplating between Unifi and Maxis for a while.
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Currently using Allo City Broadband (AS45410) since I have a lot of choice here in Cyberjaya. I wish other areas have more choice of fibre ISPs as well. MCMC should mandate this and also provide incentive to do so.

Their upstream providers are NTT and Cogent so no more dealing with TIME's upstream provider, Singtel.

https://bgpview.io/asn/45410#upstreams-v4

Their public IP users doesn't use PPPOE but uses IPOE meaning less overhead.

Here is my ping to Twitter using Allo City Broadband:

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post May 11 2024, 08:54 PM

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QUOTE(leezhijiang @ May 11 2024, 08:01 PM)
This is why I implemented site2site for my 2 homes using Time and Unifi respectively where both have 5G as back up. Routers in both homes are also connected to subscribed VPN service via multiple OVPN sessions with rule-based routing based on destination Ips.

This is to ensure internet connection can be routed either to use Time or Unifi or 5G depends on situation
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Implemented similar thing as well. If Allo have routing issue, I can reroute affected traffic to my parent's UniFi via OpenVPN/WireGuard and same goes if my parent's UniFi having routing issue, I can easily reroute their affected traffic to my Allo.

This proved useful when I was using TIME previously.

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post May 3 2025, 10:21 AM

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QUOTE(Braxton @ May 3 2025, 09:43 AM)
Now Penang have ifiber, stability not sure yet, but routing to China is a lot better than TIME. I think is partnership with MAXIS
One way to find out is go to https://myip.expert/ to get the ASN number then use that ASN number at https://bgpview.io to see its upstream providers.

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post May 5 2025, 09:38 AM

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QUOTE(Braxton @ May 3 2025, 11:38 AM)
This is upstream provider

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Wow. Only one upstream provider. That means if got routing issue, then there is nothing much your ISP can do.

 

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