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post Jan 26 2021, 01:48 PM

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QUOTE(Nic098 @ Jan 26 2021, 12:29 PM)
Is that so? Any idea who is reserving the parking lots?
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There's basement parking which is available to visitors, but pay by hour.

Ground floor (uncovered parking outside shop lots) is strictly for shoplot owners/shop guests. Ground floor lots are painted with lot numbers or car plate numbers.

https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=90512251

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QUOTE(Nic098 @ Jan 26 2021, 01:00 AM)
Hello all smile.gif I am seriously considering The Arcuz for own stay but a few things are bothering me thus the plan is on hold for now. Coming here to seek for some different perspectives.

1. To existing buyers - Are you buying for own stay or investment? (I would really love to be surrounded by own stay community, instead of tenants) 

2. I like the accessibility but worried about the security outside of the condo compound, many empty shops. I may be overthinking but I'm afraid it'd be a crime-prone area if they continue to remain empty (Correct me if I am wrong). I'd most likely go with the 2 rooms, 1 car park unit & chances of needing to park the second car outside, at the commercial area are high. Are there any plans that the commercial area will be revived?

3. Noise factor from the highway. If I am going for unit facing West which is overlooking the LRT station + highway, which floor would be a better option? The higher the better?  (Seems like the bedroom & balcony is facing toward the noise direction)  icon_question.gif 

4. Since the take-up rate is fairly low now, is it wise to wait for a few more months to avoid the need to pay the progressive interest at such an early stage?

5. Lastly, being a PJ folk, I would really love to stay in PJ. Apart from Sapphire mentioned above, any sifu could provide recommendations on a few comparable new projects with The Arcuz? (I have surveyed Miyu, Ryan & Miho, Megah Rise, Ruby Seapark, Aratre etc., all seem to be less suitable in one way or another...)

Thanks in advance  notworthy.gif
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2. Any area in Malaysia, if you park the car outside need to bear the risk. Crime happen anywhere, dont be alone till late in night and still parking far far and walk back to your condo.

4. 753sqft only left 4 units with good facing. All other remaining is facing West. There is special promotion due today, last day.
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QUOTE(DragonReine @ Jan 26 2021, 01:48 PM)
There's basement parking which is available to visitors, but pay by hour.

Ground floor (uncovered parking outside shop lots) is strictly for owners/shop guests.

https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=90512251
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Thanks for this piece of information! Another issue to consider here then... I don't mind to pay extra to rent a carpark within The Arcuz but they are only offering 100+ visitor carparks. I'm afraid the demand will be higher than supply - if the occupancy rates are high upon completion rclxub.gif

With this price point, it'll be really nice if all units come with 2 carparks blush.gif
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QUOTE(Nic098 @ Jan 26 2021, 01:00 AM)
Hello all smile.gif I am seriously considering The Arcuz for own stay but a few things are bothering me thus the plan is on hold for now. Coming here to seek for some different perspectives.

1. To existing buyers - Are you buying for own stay or investment? (I would really love to be surrounded by own stay community, instead of tenants) 

2. I like the accessibility but worried about the security outside of the condo compound, many empty shops. I may be overthinking but I'm afraid it'd be a crime-prone area if they continue to remain empty (Correct me if I am wrong). I'd most likely go with the 2 rooms, 1 car park unit & chances of needing to park the second car outside, at the commercial area are high. Are there any plans that the commercial area will be revived?

3. Noise factor from the highway. If I am going for unit facing West which is overlooking the LRT station + highway, which floor would be a better option? The higher the better?  (Seems like the bedroom & balcony is facing toward the noise direction)  icon_question.gif 

4. Since the take-up rate is fairly low now, is it wise to wait for a few more months to avoid the need to pay the progressive interest at such an early stage?

5. Lastly, being a PJ folk, I would really love to stay in PJ. Apart from Sapphire mentioned above, any sifu could provide recommendations on a few comparable new projects with The Arcuz? (I have surveyed Miyu, Ryan & Miho, Megah Rise, Ruby Seapark, Aratre etc., all seem to be less suitable in one way or another...)

Thanks in advance  notworthy.gif
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1. We have a the arcuz telegram for discussion https://t.me/arcuz, so far all are owners.

2. The commercial area offered opportunities to growth and support for Arcuz and surrounding neighbourhood in the future., e.g. 24 hours convenience store, clinic and etc. Parklane kelana Jaya most likely will be more flourish after covid and arcuz in 2023/4 come in as higher income group reside next to it. Further, the master title is owned by sinma, hence the concept similar to empire to bring in population to support growth of the commercial area and commercial managed by existing master title owner. The propose access to it is not open fully yet.

3. From my understanding Z series use premium thick window refer to nidoz's windows on the acoustic performance and quality of the handler

However, The facilities is ady facing west, face diff direction for diff view? Higher floor have better view, but higher cost 1k/ floor, investment will most likely go for lower floor for maximise return.

This post has been edited by silon01: Jan 27 2021, 07:36 AM
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post Jan 26 2021, 11:18 PM

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QUOTE(brunohuproperty @ Jan 26 2021, 01:56 PM)
2. Any area in Malaysia, if you park the car outside need to bear the risk. Crime happen anywhere, dont be alone till late in night and still parking far far and walk back to your condo.

4. 753sqft only left 4 units with good facing. All other remaining is facing West. There is special promotion due today, last day.
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Thanks for informing thumbsup.gif My agent told me that the promotion is extended. Plus I prefer to really clear all doubts & take some time to think through the decision. Don't want to rush into anything as it is for own stay purpose.
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post Jan 27 2021, 12:15 AM

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QUOTE(Nic098 @ Jan 26 2021, 11:18 PM)
Thanks for informing  thumbsup.gif  My agent told me that the promotion is extended. Plus I prefer to really clear all doubts & take some time to think through the decision. Don't want to rush into anything as it is for own stay purpose.
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Good, the promotion is extended, ha.

You are right.
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post Jan 27 2021, 01:17 PM

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QUOTE(silon01 @ Jan 26 2021, 09:24 PM)
1. We have a the arcuz telegram for discussion https://t.me/arcuz, so far all are owners.

2. The commercial area offered opportunities to growth and support for Arcuz and surrounding neighbourhood in the future., e.g. 24 hours convenience store, clinic and etc. Parklane kelana Jaya most likely will be more flourish after covid and arcuz in 2023/4 come in as higher income group reside next to it. Further, the master title is owned by sinma, hence the concept similar to empire to bring in population to support growth of the commercial area and commercial managed by existing master title owner. The propose access to it is not open fully yet.

3. From my understanding Z series use premium thick window refer to nidoz's windows on the acoustic performance and quality of the handler

However, The facilities is ady facing west, face diff direction for diff view? Higher floor have better view, but higher cost 1k/ floor, investment will most likely go for lower floor for maximise return.
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Thanks for the input! You're purchasing it for investment?

Well... I'm a hopeless romantic of sunset - that's why considering West biggrin.gif What bothering me is noise pollution. My agent told me the higher, the noisier & I don't know for sure rclxub.gif My view is since it's something I am going to stay for perhaps the next 10 years, 1k/floor higher is acceptable. However, I do want to make sure that I am making an informed decision before committing.

If anybody here can tell from experience whether the statement from the agent is true (higher floor = noisier compared to the lower floor facing the highway), that would be much appreciated notworthy.gif
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post Jan 27 2021, 01:34 PM

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QUOTE(Nic098 @ Jan 27 2021, 01:17 PM)
If anybody here can tell from experience whether the statement from the agent is true (higher floor = noisier compared to the lower floor facing the highway), that would be much appreciated  notworthy.gif
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From my experience living on high floor (2x) and lower floor (less than 10)

What ACTUALLY happens is you tend to hear more "distant" sounds than lower floors. So if far away got ambulance rushing somewhere from 2km away then the sound is clearer. Because no nearby trees or buildings to absorb the sound, more sound waves will reach your floor.

However living nearer to ground, you'll get more noise pollution from the immediate surroundings like highways and facilities floors.

IMO in Arcuz case, both high and low also got noise because it's built on elevated ground with no nearby tall trees to absorb sound AND surrounded by busy roads. Just different kind of noise.

My 2c is to get one with a satisfactory view and height that you can afford. Do factor in things like the price of floor premium (you might want to save on premium and use that extra money for soundproofing LOL) and elevator times (higher floors usually have to wait for elevator longer).
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post Jan 27 2021, 03:13 PM

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QUOTE(Nic098 @ Jan 27 2021, 01:17 PM)
Thanks for the input! You're purchasing it for investment?

Well... I'm a hopeless romantic of sunset - that's why considering West biggrin.gif What bothering me is noise pollution. My agent told me the higher, the noisier & I don't know for sure  rclxub.gif My view is since it's something I am going to stay for perhaps the next 10 years, 1k/floor higher is acceptable. However, I do want to make sure that I am making an informed decision before committing.

If anybody here can tell from experience whether the statement from the agent is true (higher floor = noisier compared to the lower floor facing the highway), that would be much appreciated  notworthy.gif
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I'm buying for own stay.

Some say facing west will cost you more on electricity because from 12pm - 6pm the sun will shine on your unit, the heat will stay in the wall and when you are back from work you need to open up your aircond to lower degree to cool it down.

Sound travel in a straight line, one thing to consider is that the highway that you are facing will have LRT 3 track and possible platform? The track will most likely at lv 7 or 8 counting at the parking floor. As per study maybe they will install some sort of acoustic barrier like what you saw around of MRT/LRT track in Malaysia because D'Putera next to us will be very very close to the the track. Another thing to consider is highway noise might deflect and bounce due to the LRT 3 track or platform, depends on it's size and location.

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The building facade itself according to illustration will have different angles facing of panel at the parking floor will act as disruptor for sound if the final product is according to the illustration.

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If you are staying 30lv and above then it may be a different story, mine 40lv and above.



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post Jan 27 2021, 05:14 PM

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QUOTE(DragonReine @ Jan 27 2021, 01:34 PM)
From my experience living on high floor (2x) and lower floor (less than 10)

What ACTUALLY happens is you tend to hear more "distant" sounds than lower floors. So if far away got ambulance rushing somewhere from 2km away then the sound is clearer. Because no nearby trees or buildings to absorb the sound, more sound waves will reach your floor.

However living nearer to ground, you'll get more noise pollution from the immediate surroundings like highways and facilities floors.

IMO in Arcuz case, both high and low also got noise because it's built on elevated ground with no nearby tall trees to absorb sound AND surrounded by busy roads. Just different kind of noise.

My 2c is to get one with a satisfactory view and height that you can afford. Do factor in things like the price of floor premium (you might want to save on premium and use that extra money for soundproofing LOL) and elevator times (higher floors usually have to wait for elevator longer).
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This is such an interesting input! Thanks so much!
Speaking of which, I do think we need to put in some extra efforts before moving in to achieve hotel kind of soundproofing standard sweat.gif I have stayed at hotels in the city centre next to busy roads & it is possible to reduce the voice pollution to nearly zero when all windows are shut (correct me I am wrong on the application on residential units, first time home buyer).

We may need to have a separate discussion over the contractor, pricing etc. closer to the completion date biggrin.gif

You got a point there regarding waiting time for elevator & the probability to get to the ground in the shortest time possible during an emergency. I do think it is crucial to have top-notch maintenance & upkeep on the security & the alarm system. Some condos' alarm systems are easily triggered (speaking from experience), up to a point where people assume those are false alarm and no longer want to 'escape' - which is terrible for not having a sense of urgency. That is why I think the community is of utmost importance coming to purchase a property for own stay purpose. Short term tenants would usually just 'live with whatever it is' & has the liberty to move away rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(silon01 @ Jan 27 2021, 03:13 PM)

I'm buying for own stay.

Some say facing west will cost you more on electricity because from 12pm - 6pm the sun will shine on your unit, the heat will stay in the wall and when you are back from work you need to open up your aircond to lower degree to cool it down.

Sound travel in a straight line, one thing to consider is that the highway that you are facing will have LRT 3 track and possible platform? The track will most likely at lv 7 or 8 counting at the parking floor. As per study maybe they will install some sort of acoustic barrier like what you saw around of MRT/LRT track in Malaysia because D'Putera next to us will be very very close to the the track. Another thing to consider is highway noise might deflect and bounce due to the LRT 3 track or platform, depends on it's size and location.

https://inv.com.my/wp-content/uploads/img-casestudy-05b.jpg 

The building facade itself according to illustration will have different angles facing of panel at the parking floor will act as disruptor for sound if the final product is according to the illustration.

https://pictr.com/images/2021/01/27/7cKMyg.md.jpg

If you are staying 30lv and above then it may be a different story, mine 40lv and above.
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This is simply brilliant! Especially true that the future of post-pandemic may have a blended mode of working from home & the office. Which direction are you purchasing?

I heard there is a landscape deck on level 41. Not sure if it is a good idea to be on the same floor with the landscape deck? Or what's the purpose of it?
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QUOTE(Nic098 @ Jan 27 2021, 05:20 PM)
This is simply brilliant! Especially true that the future of post-pandemic may have a blended mode of working from home & the office. Which direction are you purchasing?
I heard there is a landscape deck on level 41. Not sure if it is a good idea to be on the same floor with the landscape deck? Or what's the purpose of it?
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the landscape deck only for level 41 units residents using.
more privacy, since the level 41 having less 2 units.

exclusive, if u dont mind to top up extra for the exclusive and extra private facilties(but still sharing with the other units resident from level41)

EXSIM apply this design to their majority Z series, including petalz.etc
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QUOTE(brunohuproperty @ Jan 27 2021, 05:36 PM)
the landscape deck only for level 41 units residents using.
more privacy, since the level 41 having less 2 units.

exclusive, if u dont mind to top up extra for the exclusive and extra private facilties(but still sharing with the other units resident from level41)

EXSIM apply this design to their majority Z series, including petalz.etc
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Thanks for the information. How's the feedback from your previous clients on the extra facilities?
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QUOTE(Nic098 @ Jan 29 2021, 11:48 AM)
Thanks for the information. How's the feedback from your previous clients on the extra facilities?
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To be honest, the client reviewed that for such top up pricing, actually the landscape deck as for himself wont be going and sit there often also.
Plus, less 2 units as in for extra privacy.
On feeling you might really thought like u are exclusive level/unit owner. (feeling beza kan, syiok sendiri)
But in actual, its doesnt really anything special at all, like u cant really truly felt that you benefited from this exclusive level.

Anyway, at least when u fight with ur husband or wife, u can no need taking lift to other floor facitlies.etc to hide or short escape.
U can straight away walk to the landscape deck and cry/smoke.etc

haha. tongue.gif

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Hi all, any owner group available now? Just booked a unit as well
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QUOTE(bencheong92 @ Feb 2 2021, 08:38 PM)
Hi all, any owner group available now? Just booked a unit as well
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I guess you need wait untill signed SPA first.

On my experience on my other property purchase, if the group strictly for owner only, you need show proof like cover page of SPA agreement.

Anyway, i seen someone post this for arcuz owner group.
https://t.me/arcuz

But not i no sure is it a true arcuz owner group. bruce.gif

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Hi, I just purchased a unit here at Arcuz.
Please PM me for referral fee, and I can also help to connect you with my agent. Thanks!

PS any owners group on Facebook?
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Just booked a unit in Sapphire Paradigm few days back. I find it very attractive as well and for the location as compared to Arcuz, I think its a bargain.

WCT is also offering customer loyalty fees for customer bringing in customers which is quite a huge amount even after we were to share it out. Please feel free to contact me if you are interested in buying a unit and wants an extra significant cashback!

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QUOTE(csrulez @ Feb 17 2021, 11:09 AM)
Just booked a unit in Sapphire Paradigm few days back. I find it very attractive as well and for the location as compared to Arcuz, I think its a bargain.

WCT is also offering customer loyalty fees for customer bringing in customers which is quite a huge amount even after we were to share it out. Please feel free to contact me if you are interested in buying a unit and wants an extra significant cashback!
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Agree fully. If paradigm condo is 690psf this Arcuz should be 620psf cos of the location and density.

All the best to arcuz buyers at rubbish prices.
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Alright, finally, let's me answer your question directly as in compare Sxpphirx vs The Arcuz. Since you so neutral! I told, i don't like to spoilt other agent business or influencing other investor whom come to read my post!

Sxpphirx- Rm0.40psf, 229 units/1.95 acres
Arcuz- Rm0.38psf, 685 units/2.028 acres

Both land size is almost same, Arcuz slightly bigger, we ignore this factor, okay? Since no much difference.

Do you know what is ratio? Do you do simple math calculation?
If yes, then you can understand my calculation below easily.

Let's assume my prediction is correct, Sxpphirx will have spike only cukup for keep the condo good.

(Sxpphirx)229 units to (Arcuz)685 units, whats the ratio?
Its 1:2.99, which is 1:3, lets make it easy.

So, i can do a logical assumption that, if both fully occupied and all owner paying full maintenance fee.
(Neglect the built up factor here first, my eye is tiring, can't do the complicated built up x maintenance fee x by following types of units)


@brunohuproperty I feel this statement is a bit misleading to be honest, we definitely cannot ignore the built up factors/unit types etc. You do make some fair points on estimation and your assumption between the two projects. Firstly maintenance fee comparison should be based on total number of sqft occupied and not total unit numbers because you are paying per sqft to maintain a certain amount of sqft, so a realistic comparison would be:

SXpphire unit type:

1001 sqft X 91 units = 91,091 sqft
1173 sqft x 46 units = 53,958 sqft
1572 sqft x 46 units = 72,312 sqft
1722 sqft x 46 units = 79,212 sqft

we are looking at a total of 296,573 sqf, 32 floors, 12 facilities


Acrxz unit type:

*disclaimer: I'm not exactly sure what the actually number of unit per unit type so i'm gonna give Acrxz an advantage in my assumption. Usually condos are majority smaller unit but i will take a middle average as a conservation estimate according to the info you have shared*

Unit includes 978, 950, 753 sqft sizes


according to what is mentioned in this group total units are 685, and 38 facilities over 47 floors.

If I take the average between all the sized we are looking at an average of 893.6 or 894 sqft give or take.


894 sqft x 685 (total units) = 612,390 sqft


So summary comparison:


Sxpphire: 296,573 sqft of revenue across 32 floors and 12 facilities
Acrxz: 612,390 sqft of revenue across 47 floors and 38 facilities

Ratios:

SQFT revenue ratio: about 1:2
Floor height differece: 9 floors
facilities difference: more than 1:2 ratio with Acrxz having 26 more facilities than Sxpphire.
maintenance per floor ratio: Acrxz = 13,029 sqft/floor vs Sxpphire = 9,267 sqft/floor



so if you look at these data points, it is not as clear cut as to simply say the ratio between the two development is 1:3. there's a lot to consider, such as:

- Total sqft: yes there is a 1:2 difference so any deficit in revenue will lead to increase in management fee
- Maintenance per floor ratio: since it's Sxxphire lower, it will require slightly lower revenue to maintain each floor
- Facilities: extra facilities = extra maintenance cost which will be drawn from maintenance fee.
- Total potential revenue generation = 612,390sqft x RM0.38 = RM232,708 per month vs 296,573sqft x 0.4 = RM118,629(based on current Maintenance fee)

other things to consider:
- Total number of lifts (dense vs low-dense usage will impact lift performance and maintenance schedule)
- Number of staff/wear and tear per floor
- pool/facility size (e.g: larger infinity pool on roof = high chance of complication = high maintenance cost)
- Facilities type and maintenance requires (38 facilities doesnt mean more maintenance depending on what type of facilities. if it's a pool or some water pavillion those are costly to maintain, if it's just a room super low maintenance cost)


given all these data points its easy to see that the comparison is really not clear cut. because yes, generally speaking Acxruz can pull in more renenue/sqft, but it also has more floors to maintain and more facilities to maintain.

I hope this calculation can give a better understanding when giving consumers a more transparent data point for comparison regardless of which unit they prefer. any additional feedback are welcomed













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