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TSBeyondTS
post Sep 30 2018, 05:15 PM

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QUOTE(ulet @ Sep 30 2018, 04:41 PM)
You can call befriender
https://www.befrienders.org.my/services


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Oh I've heard of them before! Although, I've been quite hesitant to actually talk to them or reach out to them (due to anxiety), maybe i should give them a try.

Thank you for your response!
TSBeyondTS
post Sep 30 2018, 05:18 PM

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QUOTE(Timespace @ Sep 30 2018, 04:47 PM)
Govt hospital have psychology department and there are open talks from time to time to promote mental health. Just go and check out, usually they quite helpful.
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Oh really? I didn't know about these open talks before. Thank you very much for your response!

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post Sep 30 2018, 05:19 PM

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QUOTE(ridhwan.kamarul @ Sep 30 2018, 04:48 PM)
Please be strong. U can go through this hard times, and you will be better.

Like others said, first step is for you to contact Befriender(please google them). They will assist u from there.

Take care..
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Thank you very much for your kindness and encouragement. It means a lot!
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post Sep 30 2018, 05:20 PM

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QUOTE(powerlinkers @ Sep 30 2018, 04:51 PM)
If your age is less than 18 years old(based on date of birth): you need your parent/guardian to accompany you regardless of any visit(private/government).

1. Government Health Clinic --> referral to Government Psychiatric Clinic
I would recommend you to go to government health clinic and get a referral letter to Government Hospital Psychiatric clinic.

If you are studying in a government school : it is totally free for all followup and medications(provided you hand over a letter from your school stating that you are a government school student).
2. If you want faster option : Go to a private GP -->> referral letter to Government Psychiatric Clinic
You need to pay at Government Psychiatric Clinic: RM 30 for first visit and RM5 for subsequent visit. Medications are not included.

3.Walk in as a full paying patient at a government hospital psychiatric clinic(not all hospitals would offer this option)
RM80-200 first visit, medications are not included

4.Go to private psychiatrist
More than RM200/first visit, medications are not included.

Do not follow non-sense advocated by other /k. If you have major depression : you need to consult a psychiatrist.
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Wow, this helped answer a lot of my questions/curiosity. Thank you very much for your help!
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post Sep 30 2018, 05:25 PM

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QUOTE(Boldnut @ Sep 30 2018, 04:54 PM)
have you talk to your parents about your problems?

if your parents do not understand, try reaching out your elder relatives.
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My parents don't really believe there's anything wrong with me. They tend to refer my worry as "drama", so I've been bottling up most of my problems from years prior.

Unfortunately, i don't have any relatives living in my area. All of them live in a different state actually. I'm also hesitant to ask for their help because I'm anxious if they would think I'm being dramatic as well.


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post Sep 30 2018, 05:28 PM

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QUOTE(cfa28 @ Sep 30 2018, 05:00 PM)
Son, if you are only a secondary student, talk to your school counsellor.

As you are still a minor, any treatment cannot be done without your legal guardian approval.

Your school counsellor will access your situation and inform your legal guardian and advice them on the next steps to take.

Talk to your legal guardian or siblings about your needs and feelings
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Hm, I see. However, the main reason i posted this is because of my parent's lack of support. So, i guess i should talk to my school counselor before doing anything rash.

Thank you for the help!
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post Sep 30 2018, 05:29 PM

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QUOTE(_JD_ @ Sep 30 2018, 05:01 PM)
Dunno whether ts is trolling or not, but if you are serious, just go to the nearest kk and start telling them your prob. They will ask questions regarding symptoms of depression and after some examination, they will refer you to the nearest psychiatric  clinic if they deem u fit the criteria for major depressive disorder
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I can ensure you that i am very much serious about this. Thank you for your response! It helps a lot.
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post Sep 30 2018, 05:33 PM

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QUOTE(Giorgio Tsoukalos @ Sep 30 2018, 05:16 PM)
You can't cure depression with drugs and chemicals
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Haha, well I'm hoping to not need to go as far as using drugs to help with my problem. As I've heard that drugs (antidepressants) can cause a lot of side effects and the withdrawal from it could be a pain.
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post Sep 30 2018, 05:33 PM

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If you're ill, whether physical or mental, go seek help.

There's no shame in trying to get well.

Many msians think depression can be cured by just pulling yourself up or just shaking it off. This is not true. Clinical depression has a physical element that affects your mind.

Do everything you can to help yourself. If anyone laughs at you or denigrates you for it, they are just idiots whom you should rightly ignore.









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post Sep 30 2018, 05:37 PM


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QUOTE(EdBaaBaa @ Sep 30 2018, 05:33 PM)
If you're ill,  whether physical or mental,  go seek help.

There's no shame in trying to get well.

Many msians think depression can be cured by just pulling yourself up or just shaking it off. This is not true.  Clinical depression has a physical element that affects your mind.

Do everything you can to help yourself. If anyone laughs at you or denigrates you for it,  they are just idiots whom you should rightly ignore.
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Yes and no.
Depression has real manifestation on both mental and physical. Physical illness can cause mental illness and the vice versa is true as well.

Most ppl will have at least one episode of significant mental illness in their lifetime. A lot is able to get through it. Some don’t. Some have spiral out of control effect of mental and physical until the end.

No shame in getting help. In fact it requires a lot of bravery itself in recognizing you have a problem and you need help to solve it. The step from recognizing a problem and deciding to seek help or to solve it is already a big leap.
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post Sep 30 2018, 05:38 PM

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QUOTE(Giorgio Tsoukalos @ Sep 30 2018, 05:16 PM)
You can't cure depression with drugs and chemicals
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No, drugs with psychotherapy are the most effective way to cure depression.

If a patient with major depression develops suicidal thoughts: are you going to counsel him/her only without any medication?


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post Sep 30 2018, 05:40 PM

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QUOTE(EdBaaBaa @ Sep 30 2018, 05:33 PM)
If you're ill,  whether physical or mental,  go seek help.

There's no shame in trying to get well.

Many msians think depression can be cured by just pulling yourself up or just shaking it off. This is not true.  Clinical depression has a physical element that affects your mind.

Do everything you can to help yourself. If anyone laughs at you or denigrates you for it,  they are just idiots whom you should rightly ignore.
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Thank you very much for your kind words. It really brightened me up a bit to hear/read this!
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QUOTE(powerlinkers @ Sep 30 2018, 05:38 PM)
No, drugs with psychotherapy are the most effective way to cure depression.

If a patient with major depression develops suicidal thoughts: are you going to counsel him/her only without any medication?
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Erm. Not real cures but more like aids or helpers to cope while either you do something to the situation or when your environment change to aid or suit you.
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post Sep 30 2018, 05:51 PM

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QUOTE(Giorgio Tsoukalos @ Sep 30 2018, 05:16 PM)
You can't cure depression with drugs and chemicals
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nude where
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post Sep 30 2018, 05:56 PM

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QUOTE(slimey @ Sep 30 2018, 06:37 PM)
Yes and no.
Depression has real manifestation on both mental and physical. Physical illness can cause mental illness and the vice versa is true as well.

Most ppl will have at least one episode of significant mental illness in their lifetime. A lot is able to get through it. Some don’t. Some have spiral out of control effect of mental and physical until the end.

No shame in getting help. In fact it requires a lot of bravery itself in recognizing you have a problem and you need help to solve it. The step from recognizing a problem and deciding to seek help or to solve it is already a big leap.
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need to also be aware that one of the steps that will help you as well is to cut off negative and over dramatic people
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post Sep 30 2018, 06:20 PM

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so ur problem serious anot

gomen have to wait for 164748383 months for appointment
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post Sep 30 2018, 06:26 PM

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Go to klinik kesihatan first

If Dr seem your problem seriose enough they will refer to specialist (psychiatric Dept)

But usually this will be if quite severe (suicidal/causing damage & hurt to others)


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post Sep 30 2018, 07:04 PM

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anyway ts i recently found a mobile app called Youper you should check it out idk if it can be much of help

inb4 khak
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post Sep 30 2018, 07:07 PM

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QUOTE(otakotak @ Sep 30 2018, 04:36 PM)
salah society because always frame become doctor = easy 20k
but never actually talk abou the work load
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post Sep 30 2018, 07:36 PM

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Go klinik kesihatan n get referral letter.
Bring that letter to gomen hosp.
Not all gomen hosp in kv got psychiatric department.
Only hukm, hkl, hosp selayang, and 1 more i forgot

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