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 Liverpool LYN Kop Talk - 2018/2019, LIV 5 : 0 WAT #YNWA

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post Oct 4 2018, 04:56 PM

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my observation since start of season.

TAA has been overall rather poor every game since the start of the season. Put Salah here for a few games. Let him drift in with the ball from the wings. He is creative enough to create something unlike TAA, still too young.

Henderson ...never been a fan of this guy. Still a headless chicken doing mostly side/back passes. Having him on the field is like playing with 1 man down. Anyone replacing him can contribute more than him.

Shaqiri deserves a start, right behind front two of Firminho + Mane. If not, just put him in the center replace Henderson.

Klopp has seen how good Sturridge is. He should develop a plan B that plays to his strength when he comes on as a sub.

Not sure why LP players are doing shitload of back passes to the GK. Reminds me of BR days and LP players always get caught. They need to stop doing this coz opposition teams are purposely pressurising LP players forcing them to do back passes and then look for the opportunity to pounce on the bad back passes.
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post Oct 4 2018, 04:57 PM

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I believe this fatigue and looked knackered due to really really less rotation?
Keep playing 90% same eleven is gonna cost us and expose the players to injuries.
Should use Shaqiri, Sturridge or Fabinho sometimes. Hell, even Keita or Lovren.
We have a squad depth much better than last season and lets utilize it.

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post Oct 4 2018, 05:11 PM

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That headless chicken has been appointed as captain by 3 club managers and 1 national manager.

Some random forummer here should go apply for Assistant Manager to Klopp to teach him how to select players
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post Oct 4 2018, 11:56 PM

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can.not.believe.people.still.bash.hendo.for.backpasses....

Come on now, sometimes the only passing options is backwards. And it's called recycling possession, getting the ball from the right to left in the hope of getting more passing options due to opponents' players not getting in position to block passing lanes... And dont forget a number of his dinked passes to Firmino and Mane only a couple of seasons ago.
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QUOTE(Everdying @ Oct 4 2018, 04:06 PM)
and here we have another very obvious case of blind hatred...
didn't we just beat soton 3-0...with hendo starting?
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you got me bro.. i really just don't like him
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post Oct 5 2018, 10:35 AM

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QUOTE(sahathai @ Oct 5 2018, 12:52 AM)
you got me bro.. i really just don't like him
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dude i can empathise your hatred towards him. Having seen him in LP from day 1 ..and seeing a guy with all the qualities needed to become a world class player, the height, the speed, the ability to play with the ball, the only guy with the most potential to be better than Stevie G himself.... ended up going a few entire season with 0 assist ... even on Stevie G's final year, Stevie G managed double assist figures while Hendo 0. This guy is the biggest wasted potential in the world and he only has himself to blame for not having the balls to go forward and beat his opponents, rather without a second thought he side passes and back passes most of the time. Opponents don't have to worry about him at all, just pressure a little, he side/backpasses. Easy to read player.
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QUOTE(M_Shahrul @ Oct 4 2018, 04:57 PM)
I believe this fatigue and looked knackered due to really really less rotation?
Keep playing 90% same eleven is gonna cost us and expose the players to injuries.
Should use Shaqiri, Sturridge or Fabinho sometimes. Hell, even Keita or Lovren.
We have a squad depth much better than last season and lets utilize it.
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Yeah

It feels like post WC blues in coming in. They are after all, only humans. The fatique factor has kicked in earlier than expected. 2 games in 4 days seems stretched for some.
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post Oct 5 2018, 12:40 PM

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Looking forward for Keita & Fab to get up into speed quickly. With proper rotation, hope we can overcome fixtures congestion in December this time.
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post Oct 5 2018, 02:40 PM

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QUOTE(sk1l @ Oct 5 2018, 10:35 AM)
dude i can empathise your hatred towards him. Having seen him in LP from day 1 ..and seeing a guy with all the qualities needed to become a world class player, the height, the speed, the ability to play with the ball, the only guy with the most potential to be better than Stevie G himself.... ended up going a few entire season with 0 assist ... even on Stevie G's final year, Stevie G managed double assist figures while Hendo 0. This guy is the biggest wasted potential in the world and he only has himself to blame for not having the balls  to go forward and beat his opponents, rather without a second thought he side passes and back passes most of the time. Opponents don't have to worry about him at all, just pressure a little, he side/backpasses. Easy to read player.
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post Oct 5 2018, 03:01 PM

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well the captain need to do this again, lust.gif lust.gif

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post Oct 5 2018, 03:07 PM

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QUOTE(ahcab @ Oct 5 2018, 03:01 PM)
well the captain need to do this again, lust.gif lust.gif

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see ... he has all the right tools ....almost like magic right seeing this goal and how he has been playing ... if only he can produce that every other week ....
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post Oct 5 2018, 03:38 PM

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QUOTE(sk1l @ Oct 5 2018, 10:35 AM)
dude i can empathise your hatred towards him. Having seen him in LP from day 1 ..and seeing a guy with all the qualities needed to become a world class player, the height, the speed, the ability to play with the ball, the only guy with the most potential to be better than Stevie G himself.... ended up going a few entire season with 0 assist ... even on Stevie G's final year, Stevie G managed double assist figures while Hendo 0. This guy is the biggest wasted potential in the world and he only has himself to blame for not having the balls  to go forward and beat his opponents, rather without a second thought he side passes and back passes most of the time. Opponents don't have to worry about him at all, just pressure a little, he side/backpasses. Easy to read player.
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For some reasons I really wanna see him doing exactly what you expect of him, only for him to be dispossessed on the halfway line and the opponent duly scored on the counter. I would love to see what's your response at that moment.

I never think he has all the potentials to be a world beater, let alone being better than Gerrard. Still, I appreciate him as a player, as it's pointless to expect him to do what he is not built/asked to do.
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since when is hendo supposed to be the replacement for G?
hendo has always been more of a lucas / masch kinda role.
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post Oct 5 2018, 04:45 PM

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Last game, I like on how Fabinho did try to push forward. Yeah some little mis-passes here and there BUT he did try to play it creatively forward.
You know, kind of passes penetrate between two players while our strikers already started sprinting.
The most stupid things to do are, the striker who is no trying to find spaces OR intelligent runnings, and midfielder WITHOUT any penetration passes.
Team like Chelsea or Atletico just need to field two BANK OF FOUR of defense lines, then we are f**ked. Creative... Be creative, especially midfielders.

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QUOTE(Lionel90 @ Oct 5 2018, 03:38 PM)
For some reasons I really wanna see him doing exactly what you expect of him, only for him to be dispossessed on the halfway line and the opponent duly scored on the counter. I would love to see what's your response at that moment.

I never think he has all the potentials to be a world beater, let alone being better than Gerrard. Still, I appreciate him as a player, as it's pointless to expect him to do what he is not built/asked to do.
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QUOTE(Everdying @ Oct 5 2018, 03:40 PM)
since when is hendo supposed to be the replacement for G?
hendo has always been more of a lucas / masch kinda role.
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U guys have been following the team as long as i have or probably longer too so you've surely seen the potential of Henderson. He was one heck of a box to box midfielder when younger. Up and down the field he had no problem running, attacking, defending, shooting, passing, crossing, lol ..like i keep saying he had all the tools to be better than Stevie G. I had so much hope for him. I can't drag my memories of his games out of my mind but at least i found an old video of his showing what he was back then. The video doesn't do justice coz i couldn't find anything before that date.





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post Oct 5 2018, 04:51 PM

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QUOTE(Everdying @ Oct 5 2018, 03:40 PM)
since when is hendo supposed to be the replacement for G?
hendo has always been more of a lucas / masch kinda role.
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He is the captain, replacing Gerrard, so on the pitch we must also expect the same displays that's the norm from Gerrard!

That seems to be the root of the blind hatred. No one can ever replace another on the pitch like for like, leave alone someone iconic and legendary.
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QUOTE(Lionel90 @ Oct 5 2018, 04:51 PM)
He is the captain, replacing Gerrard, so on the pitch we must also expect the same displays that's the norm from Gerrard!

That seems to be the root of the blind hatred. No one can ever replace another on the pitch like for like, leave alone someone iconic and legendary.
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so gerrard replaced hyypia...so which by default means G is supposed to be a CB? i see the logic tongue.gif
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post Oct 5 2018, 04:55 PM

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lol .u guys. . nothing to do with like for like replacement has to perform the same ...

just the potential of Henderson ...so wasted ...
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post Oct 5 2018, 04:56 PM

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Example of two bank of four, attached. We are gonna get f**ked up, surely without creative midfielders.
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post Oct 5 2018, 05:01 PM

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QUOTE(sk1l @ Oct 5 2018, 04:55 PM)
lol .u guys. . nothing to do with like for like replacement has to perform the same ...

just the potential of Henderson ...so wasted ...
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Klopp prefer him not to play as 8 ain't it? So we have to deal with that lor.

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