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post Sep 28 2018, 08:05 AM

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QUOTE(DarkNite @ Sep 28 2018, 07:30 AM)
No right to complain? Ptui!
People like you is why the society is so screwed up!
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Agree.
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post Sep 28 2018, 08:05 AM

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QUOTE(WaCKy-Angel @ Sep 28 2018, 08:04 AM)
can snap photo on the bike  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif
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Wait i kena that guy again

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post Sep 28 2018, 08:09 AM

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Grab has no employment contract with riders and vice versa. When they cut the incentives, existing riders have the right to walk away without any compensation.

It is not the same as working for a company bound by employment contract. If one day, the boss cut the salary down by 50% without notice, the employee can fight back in labour court.

Same case as Uber in US currently where the gomen is trying to prove that Uber drivers are employees of Uber Inc despite not have any contract. Still pending in court. If employees win, Uber is fucked.
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post Sep 28 2018, 08:11 AM

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Anthony and Gobind should go full force on Grab
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post Sep 28 2018, 08:12 AM

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QUOTE(incubus_skj @ Sep 28 2018, 07:19 AM)
Statement from Grab Malaysia – GrabFood Riders

We recently revised our incentive scheme for our GrabFood riders, which in truth, would have benefited them more
How does revising from RM10 to RM5 can benefit anyone more? Logic longkang?
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Grab logic.. run by a bunch of vampires.
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post Sep 28 2018, 08:13 AM

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oh waiii i just recalled rm5/job was foodpanda not grab.
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post Sep 28 2018, 08:14 AM

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QUOTE(incubus_skj @ Sep 28 2018, 07:19 AM)
Statement from Grab Malaysia – GrabFood Riders

We recently revised our incentive scheme for our GrabFood riders, which in truth, would have benefited them more
How does revising from RM10 to RM5 can benefit anyone more? Logic longkang?
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they must have employed ahmad maslan as their marketing director or some ex-BN minister

QUOTE(kevin23 @ Sep 28 2018, 07:20 AM)
U can boycott but there will thousands more who will do the job .
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how is there "thousands more who will do the job" when there is no money to be made? laugh.gif
it's like saying there are thousands more waiting in line to be street cleaner for RM500
grab doesn't limit how many grab rider on the road, so how come some ppl need to wait 5 hours when "thousands more" are out there?

This post has been edited by MR_alien: Sep 28 2018, 08:15 AM
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post Sep 28 2018, 08:16 AM

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QUOTE(WaCKy-Angel @ Sep 28 2018, 07:50 AM)
i know, but the point is rm10/job for rider is very good earning.
but iinm it has always been RM5/job no meh? i asked the rider like 1-2 months ago he say get rm5/job
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Exactly

QUOTE(DarkAeon @ Sep 28 2018, 07:55 AM)
motor petrol cost as much as car petrol

true story
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Costs the same. But 1L of petrol brings u further compared to a car. So it is cheaper because u get to go further.


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post Sep 28 2018, 08:16 AM

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QUOTE(kevin23 @ Sep 28 2018, 07:37 AM)
Nope. U sendiri took ur own bike on ur own freewill downloaded grabapp to do grabfood.

On ur own freewill accepted job requests and on ur own freewill rode to the restaurant and collected the food.

Wheres the slavery? Wake up dude
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Tok kok la!
You make as if every kid dream of this job!
Free will? Hope you & your family won't be so down on your luck too!
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post Sep 28 2018, 08:17 AM

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Take it or leave it, that's all
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post Sep 28 2018, 08:18 AM

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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Sep 28 2018, 08:14 AM)
they must have employed ahmad maslan as their marketing director or some ex-BN minister
how is there "thousands more who will do the job" when there is no money to be made? laugh.gif
it's like saying there are thousands more waiting in line to be street cleaner for RM500
grab doesn't limit how many grab rider on the road, so how come some ppl need to wait 5 hours when "thousands more" are out there?
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U will be surprised la. There is still money to be made at rm5. But they just want more money.

Alot ppl nowadays looking for side income.
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post Sep 28 2018, 08:19 AM

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QUOTE(maxpudding @ Sep 28 2018, 07:15 AM)
How does cutting the payment to half benefit the riders?
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It doesn’t. They still want to save face.

They like uber d. Monopoly now and lan si liao.

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post Sep 28 2018, 08:22 AM

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QUOTE(WaCKy-Angel @ Sep 28 2018, 07:59 AM)
bangwall.gif  bangwall.gif  bangwall.gif

u drive to work no need maintenance? what is it difference with being grabfood driver?
motor maintenance how much la dey? RM10K/month?

anyway lazy to argue already.
imo rm5/job is still good enough, grabfood didnt forced them to be rider (same for grab driver) if they were getting rm10/job earlier are probably "incentive" from company and now they decided to stop it.
strike all u want, if grab charge higher price on customers they wont order, translates to no job for rider.
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True. But then grab also want their 25 percent as commission right? So basically they still get their share. I don’t think the incentive structure ever touched on grabs commission. In an era or higher volume, you would think grab might lower its commission for the benefit of everyone else. They basically have no cost and risk there.
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post Sep 28 2018, 08:22 AM

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If rider/delivery service is your passion(or the only job you're willing to do), go do mcd/pizza/dominos delivery lah. Got basic+allowance+ot. Rider of the month can get extra. Or go join lazada express LEX. The more stuff you can sumbat in your car the more you earn. Those complained just want easy money. I don't see foodpanda/honestbee riders kepoh about their RM5/trip pay. But yes Grab also in the wrong coz not enough transparency.
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post Sep 28 2018, 08:24 AM

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QUOTE(kevin23 @ Sep 28 2018, 07:28 AM)
Yes. New ppl will join. For 1 day will be down. It doesnt matter. Next day, new ppl join. Up and running again.

They dont sack. The riders are not under their payroll.

Not sure why ppl think doing Grab/grabfood as a full time job is viable. Its not.

Its just a job to make some money to cover daily expenses. Not to totally replace ur full time job.

So i find it weird they complain no epf, socso etc etc. First of all, GRAB did not hire u! You are the one came crawling to grab for with ur own intention of making a little side income.

If u tak suka, just delete the damn app frm ur phone. As simple as that.
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ppl always say grab car and grabfood is the same..it isn't..there is a difference
grab car is basically ride sharing service, u use your car(no additional accessories needed)..u go from point A to B...in that journey, u pickup a person so that it can cover your petrol
grabfood, your bike but behind u there is a special case to put the food in, u wear grab jacket
ain't nobody gonna ride that box behind around from point A to B if he is not working for grabfood
and it's not like u can remove that box after u reach point B and go back to your normal job laugh.gif
so grabfood isn't really a food delivery sharing service laugh.gif
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post Sep 28 2018, 08:24 AM

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QUOTE(WaCKy-Angel @ Sep 28 2018, 07:59 AM)
bangwall.gif  bangwall.gif  bangwall.gif

u drive to work no need maintenance? what is it difference with being grabfood driver?
motor maintenance how much la dey? RM10K/month?

anyway lazy to argue already.
imo rm5/job is still good enough, grabfood didnt forced them to be rider (same for grab driver) if they were getting rm10/job earlier are probably "incentive" from company and now they decided to stop it.
strike all u want, if grab charge higher price on customers they wont order, translates to no job for rider.
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Your vehicle is not the primary provider of your income. You use it to get to work. It's not the same for Grab drivers or food delivery. A cost is a cost and most people take cost and benefits into account before working and you're ignoring the part where orders are not constant. They make good money within multiple small windows so the daily average might not even be up to entry-level income at RM 5 per trip.

It's an ecosystem. Grab needs customers and riders and vice versa.
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post Sep 28 2018, 08:25 AM

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As some have said, there's no employment contract between Grab and the riders so it is within Grab's rights to cut in half if they want. It is also the riders' right to stop taking the job from Grab (for some reason called strike in the media for this case). If Grab thinks what they're doing is right and will benefit their company, then they should stick to their gun. Let's see if there are 'many thousands' that will take over the former riders place. I personally foresee though that Grab will either return back to RM10 or change it again to placate the riders.
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post Sep 28 2018, 08:27 AM

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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Sep 28 2018, 08:24 AM)
ppl always say grab car and grabfood is the same..it isn't..there is a difference
grab car is basically ride sharing service, u use your car(no additional accessories needed)..u go from point A to B...in that journey, u pickup a person so that it can cover your petrol
grabfood, your bike but behind u there is a special case to put the food in, u wear grab jacket
ain't nobody gonna ride that box behind around from point A to B if he is not working for grabfood
and it's not like u can remove that box after u reach point B and go back to your normal job laugh.gif
so grabfood isn't really a food delivery sharing service laugh.gif
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Nope. Not all riders have that box behind. The same goes for grabcar. Not every car has advertisements wrapped on their car.
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post Sep 28 2018, 08:28 AM

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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Sep 28 2018, 08:24 AM)
ppl always say grab car and grabfood is the same..it isn't..there is a difference
grab car is basically ride sharing service, u use your car(no additional accessories needed)..u go from point A to B...in that journey, u pickup a person so that it can cover your petrol
grabfood, your bike but behind u there is a special case to put the food in, u wear grab jacket
ain't nobody gonna ride that box behind around from point A to B if he is not working for grabfood
and it's not like u can remove that box after u reach point B and go back to your normal job laugh.gif
so grabfood isn't really a food delivery sharing service laugh.gif
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fyi in essence grabcar is not a ride sharing service.

driver don't choose the destination, heck now theres even a forced auto job acceptance.

if grabhitch is still around then yes thats a shared ride service.
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post Sep 28 2018, 08:28 AM

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QUOTE(kevin23 @ Sep 28 2018, 08:18 AM)
U will be surprised la. There is still money to be made at rm5. But they just want more money.

Alot ppl nowadays looking for side income.
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of course there is but how much is the main question?
u work for a company, company ask u go somewhere...they compensate for u for driving your car
grab doesn't..all is on u
and company pay by the KM u travelled, grab doesn't

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