comes down to a very simple point. consumers tak mau pay RM10 per delivery.
you order tapao for RM20 meal. with delivery now become RM30. u mau ka?

From this view, means that because the customer (grab) is asking for a 50% discount, the service providers (riders) say no

So either the customer find other riders or pay up. But then again, if it's so easy to find riders there wouldn't be a 2 hour wait even before the mogok

Who ask customer so lazy. Go out tapao chicken rice also cost RM5 la, no need to pay GrabFood RM5 delivery + cost of the food somemore

And yet you gave as example you paying coffeeshop as a customer. Does not make sense at all.

If you want to give a better example, how about this:

You own a house and ask a Bangla to cut your garden grass and offer RM50. The Bangla agrees. No contract but are you defined as an employer? By definition yes. One month later, you ask the same Bangla to cut your grass again but offer RM25. The Bangla refused. In this case, even though you had 'employed' the Bangla before, because there was no employment contract, there is nothing more both of you can do.

Take note that the point of my first reply to you is to state that customer is not employer and it is a bad example. Nothing else.

No, the point I made was that Grab has the rights to cut the payment from RM10 to RM5 and the rider has the right to not take the job. If Grab thinks its decision is good, it will stick with it and if not it will return the payment back to RM10 or change it again. That was my point. You saying whether I am willing to pay RM 10 or not is beside the point and makes no impact to what I have stated above.

+1

Most likely those top 10% that work hardest like cow in rain and sun got the benefit.

yup, that would be accurate

its a power dynamic between the client and the provider, like the opposite how unifi screws us over, we are angry over it then go back cause no other options. i guess in some ways one can say its unethical, but that would mean that all of our business dealings would be unethical.

syukur ada TIME for condo users

> has condo
> no TIME

lord why has thou forsaken me

cukur ada Maxshit RM89 for 30mbps

Nothing new...thats what they have been doing few years back

Give a hell lot of income to grab drivers, one month can reach 6-8k easily. Later after gain the market slowly reduce income bit by bit.

Many quit job do uber / grab last time...now all stuck at low income

Later Grab blame no local take the job and hire Bangla or Indon as rider


Malaysia Baru

okay or not maxshit rm89 fibre?

Haha. Even my kampung with its cap ayam delivery pay more to its riders.

That one standard template reply whenever they cut fare........from Uber to Grab I even proof them wrong with calculation, yes, fare goes up due to higher demand, higher volume, but, cost also increase due to accelerated maintenance. Over the time, drivers/ riders will rugi, Grab just sit there, coz their cost is nothing, just their software cost and IT cost.

Apa argument nie? If thousands more willing do the job, u think there still issues of no delivery? Otak kat buntot? Or you mean thousands are those foreign labour in jobs scope that Malaysia duwan do, plus now we open up this job to them?

U drive work, u park your car at office, then, after office hour, u drive home. Everyday, max predictable mileage, which u definitely had factored in salary package when u decide to take the offer or not. If u sales, u will be compensated with mileage or some other allowance to compensate your travelling.

U drive Grab/ ride GrabFood, sure mileage higher than usual. So does the maintenance need more frequent. So, rider make factor their decision, yeah RM10 can cover the cost with the distance. Suddenly, change to RM5, with same distance, u think they happy or not?

I am not here to argue whether RM5/job is profitable or not, what I want to stress here is u cannot use the concept of maintenance no difference when u drive to work vs u drive grab.

And, don't forget in this gig economy eco-system, as u rightly pointed out, no one is indispensable, neither anyone have any upper hand. If the customer perceived delivery charge is too high, no order incoming, grab and rider suffer. If rider perceived delivery charge does not compensate their effort when Grab slash the delivery charge, no riders, Grab no riders, customer no delivery even got demand. And, without Grab, neither customer have the convenience and rider got income. Ultimately, everyone have to agree on the "fair compensation for the fair work to be done"

You have to calculate out the cost for people to see. Petrol + bike cost how much perday.

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What rubbish. U are an employee if u have a written agreement between both parties.

Besides, its not Grab who is paying ur so called wages dungu. Its the customers who are paying ur WAGES. Grab takes a portion of the fees.

Now tell me, is Grab ur employer? Go readup more la kiddo

U another dumbF. There are thousands who are willing to do the job. Its takes at least 1 day to sign them up.

U think they can magically appear in the grab system?

Today boycott, tomorrow a few hundred sign up. Back to square one. Remember, u are replaceable. Any tom dick and harry can deliver food. But not everyone can do accounts for a company. Get it?

This post has been edited by kevin23: Sep 28 2018, 09:51 AM

Time for competition Commission to start looking into this company

This post has been edited by rcracer: Sep 28 2018, 09:51 AM

What tokok u? Ytd i order food for my boss 2hr++ baru sampai liao. Food sampai also suda sejuk.