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post Sep 28 2018, 09:40 AM

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QUOTE(incubus_skj @ Sep 28 2018, 07:19 AM)
Statement from Grab Malaysia – GrabFood Riders

We recently revised our incentive scheme for our GrabFood riders, which in truth, would have benefited them more
How does revising from RM10 to RM5 can benefit anyone more? Logic longkang?
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That one standard template reply whenever they cut fare........from Uber to Grab laugh.gif I even proof them wrong with calculation, yes, fare goes up due to higher demand, higher volume, but, cost also increase due to accelerated maintenance. Over the time, drivers/ riders will rugi, Grab just sit there, coz their cost is nothing, just their software cost and IT cost.

QUOTE(kevin23 @ Sep 28 2018, 07:20 AM)
Firstly Grab can set whatever comm they want to give to riders for grabfood. U want u do la.

U dont accept or dont like the comm dont do la.

Rmb, they never force u to do. They hv no right to complain.

U can boycott but there will thousands more who will do the job .
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Apa argument nie? If thousands more willing do the job, u think there still issues of no delivery? Otak kat buntot? Or you mean thousands are those foreign labour in jobs scope that Malaysia duwan do, plus now we open up this job to them? whistling.gif

QUOTE(WaCKy-Angel @ Sep 28 2018, 07:59 AM)
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u drive to work no need maintenance? what is it difference with being grabfood driver?
motor maintenance how much la dey? RM10K/month?

anyway lazy to argue already.
imo rm5/job is still good enough, grabfood didnt forced them to be rider (same for grab driver) if they were getting rm10/job earlier are probably "incentive" from company and now they decided to stop it.
strike all u want, if grab charge higher price on customers they wont order, translates to no job for rider.
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U drive work, u park your car at office, then, after office hour, u drive home. Everyday, max predictable mileage, which u definitely had factored in salary package when u decide to take the offer or not. If u sales, u will be compensated with mileage or some other allowance to compensate your travelling.

U drive Grab/ ride GrabFood, sure mileage higher than usual. So does the maintenance need more frequent. So, rider make factor their decision, yeah RM10 can cover the cost with the distance. Suddenly, change to RM5, with same distance, u think they happy or not?

I am not here to argue whether RM5/job is profitable or not, what I want to stress here is u cannot use the concept of maintenance no difference when u drive to work vs u drive grab.

And, don't forget in this gig economy eco-system, as u rightly pointed out, no one is indispensable, neither anyone have any upper hand. If the customer perceived delivery charge is too high, no order incoming, grab and rider suffer. If rider perceived delivery charge does not compensate their effort when Grab slash the delivery charge, no riders, Grab no riders, customer no delivery even got demand. And, without Grab, neither customer have the convenience and rider got income. Ultimately, everyone have to agree on the "fair compensation for the fair work to be done"

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post Sep 28 2018, 10:48 AM

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QUOTE(kevin23 @ Sep 28 2018, 09:49 AM)
What rubbish. U are an employee if u have a written agreement between both parties.

Besides, its not Grab who is paying ur so called wages dungu. Its the customers who are paying ur WAGES. Grab takes a portion of the fees.

Now tell me, is Grab ur employer? Go readup more la kiddo
U another dumbF. There are thousands who are willing to do the job. Its takes at least 1 day to sign them up.

U think they can magically appear in the grab system?

Today boycott, tomorrow a few hundred sign up. Back to square one. Remember, u are replaceable. Any tom dick and harry can deliver food. But not everyone can do accounts for a company. Get it?
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Before u label others dumb, please go review your own comment so not to make a fool out of yourself.... doh.gif

First, Grab is not paying me, by the way, as matter of records, I do not do Grab, I just kepochi here, giving my comment, wages, dungu....what Grab or Customers pay those rider is fee for the rider to deliver. Get the fact right first....wages is paid when there is contract between employer and employer for the agreed work done. Grab rider is not employee, but freelance rider who agree to do delivery for a fee. Second, how can Grab rider received WAGES FROM CUSTOMERS WHEN CONTRACT IS BETWEEN GRAB AND RIDER??? doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif DOUBLE DUNGU.

You keep claiming thousands willing to do the job, then, why suddenly yesterday all no delivery? FYI, Grab RECRUITMENT IS NON DAILY BASIS, NON STOP, SO, FOLLOWING YOUR LOGIC, THE ISSUE OF NO DELIVERY YESTERDAY SHOULD NOT HAVE HAPPEN SINCE THOSE RIDERS WHO BOIKOT WILL BE EASILY REPLACED WITH THOUSANDS OF STANDBY RIDERS whistling.gif doh.gif

Side track a little bit, based on your view, there is thousands of people ready to work at whatever shit amount, then, why the hell we still need to import foreign labour come to Malaysia??? whistling.gif

Ok, enuff teaching DUNGU LIKE U......

QUOTE(bumpo @ Sep 28 2018, 09:58 AM)
rightfully so. given current way events are unfolding, rm10 per delivery isnt "fair compensation for the fair work to be done". apparently neither is rm5  doh.gif
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This one really subjective lor.....honestly, u ask me, I also don't have answer, I will let the economic force to decide, but, looking at the current situation, where Gra rider boikot, it seem like it lor.......long term wise, the market will adjust accordingly lah......only some DUNGU WILL KEEP SAYING U GOT TO ACCEPT WHATEVER AMOUNT I OFFER U COZ IF U DON'T THOUSANDS WILL..... laugh.gif
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post Sep 28 2018, 10:55 AM

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QUOTE(hickups @ Sep 28 2018, 10:51 AM)
both need each other to do business....
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According to kevin23 only riders need Grab do business, Grab no need, coz got thousands of pipul ever ready standby.......

And, going by the logic, Malaysia will have very huge working population ever ready, and unemployment rate is sky high, coz everyone is willing to take whatever job at whatever pay, at all cost.....

But, still cannot explain why we still need to import so many foreign workers whistling.gif
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post Sep 28 2018, 11:47 AM

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QUOTE(dregatar @ Sep 28 2018, 11:01 AM)
because the way i see it grab is supposed to be a side income thing.
alot of people with regular job willing to do grab as part time.
i guess the ones making noise grab kacau periuk nasi orang is those who doing full time which is not how the system supposed to work.
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Supposed, side income, but, it become main income....see, from ride-sharing to ride-hailing.

QUOTE(kevin23 @ Sep 28 2018, 11:24 AM)
Cant believe ur dumboness.

1. There is no contract btw Grab and rider. Sendiri contradict urself in a single sentence. First say they are not employee. If they are not employee of cuz no contract .

2. Of cuz money comes from customer. The same as how grabcar works. Do u see a monthly salary being banked into ur bank acc frm grab? NO!

3. Today boycott? Of cuz today food delivery will be affected. Then tomorrow Grab signs up a few hundred new riders. Tomorrow back to normal. If u are easily replaceable, dont demand too much.

New riders need to go thru training. U think today morning register, next hour or so go straight work? Common sense la bodo.

Try not to act smart when u are not. Make u sound stupid. And embarass other malaysians with ur stupidity.
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1. U still don't your stupidity? There is contract between Grab and rider lah doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif Since when I said Grab rider is employee? Don't simply put words in my mouth doh.gif

2. money is bank thru bank account or what they call dunno what Grab wallet (I don't know the term, coz I don't drive for Grab), for those riders to decide to pay card which the driver can withdraw it out. Not all Grab fare is paid via cash, u DUNGU! laugh.gif

3. Stop pancut awal without reading full, or do selective reading. Grab recruitment is all days, everydays, 7 days a week....follow your dungu logic, today strike, sure yesterday thousands of newly recruit riders ready to take over, since they oledi completed their your so-call 1 day training....FYI, immediately, u register, u can start immediately lah provided that all your documents complete, you not blacklisted by JPJ or police, etc...

AND, LAST BUT NOT LEAST, STOP BEING KEYBOARD WARRIOR THAT DOESN'T KNOW ANYTHING BUT PRETEND TO KNOW EVERYTHING MAKING FOOL YOURSELF.....LEARN HOW THE GRAB SYSTEM ECOLOGY, GO SIGN UP AS GRAB DRIVER/ RIDER OR TALK TO THE DRIVER/ RIDER INSTEAD HIDING BEHIND COMPUTER TYPING AWAY TO GET REAL SITUATION doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif FOR THE RECORDS, I AM NEVER SIGN UP WITH GRAB AS RIDER/ DRIVER, BUT I KNEW HOW IT WORKS COZ I GO TALK TO THEM, UNDERSTAND THEM AND OF COURSE, MY PAST EXPERIENCE IN UBER HELP TOO.

BUT IF U CONTINUE TO MAKE A FOOL OUT OF YOURSELF HERE, BECOMING LEGENDARY GRAB COMMUNITY LAUGHING STOCK IS YOUR GOAL HERE BY POSTING NONSENSE, UP TO U...I WELCOME JOKES ANYTIME, ANY DAY laugh.gif
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post Sep 28 2018, 11:53 AM

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QUOTE(kevin23 @ Sep 28 2018, 11:31 AM)
I think u got the whole concept wrong.

Go to any big MNC, everyone is desperate to join big companies.
Those who resign will be easily replaced.

The same goes for Grab.

Firstly u must differentiate Grab employees and Grab associates.

Employees are contract bound staff based at Grab HQ or offices around Msia working 9-5 jobs.

Grab associates are not employees of Grab. They use Grab platform to earn money. Grab charges them a fee to use their platform.

As said earlier, riders are easily replaceable.

So Grab does not pay the rider/drivers a single sen. Its the customers who pay !

So pls get ur concept right b4 talking rubbish.
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post Sep 28 2018, 11:54 AM

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QUOTE(rooney723 @ Sep 28 2018, 11:52 AM)
itu kevin23 memang certified sorhye wan duneed argue wif him, save ur energy
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thank you bro.....seems i am not the only one who think so...but, let me troll him for one last time

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post Sep 28 2018, 12:19 PM

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[quote=dregatar,Sep 28 2018, 11:55 AM]Hailing ke Sharing ke the point is still the same grab provide opportunity to ppl to earn extra income via their platform.
Now if anyone wanna do grab as full time can.. but don't complain it doesn't pay as well as a full time job because its never meant to be one.
grab is not responsible to adjust the rate do u can achieve ur desired income.
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Yes, I agree with your above statement. That's why many decided to stop or strike

[quote=kevin23,Sep 28 2018, 11:55 AM]1. Feel free to show the contract stating amount of salary paid etc etc.

2. Of cuz i know not all is paid by cash. Some paid by card. Same thing. Grab just takes customers money and pays driver thru bank acc .how come u so bodo one?

3.Stupid bongok, today strike means the newly signed up riders wont be riding as well la cuz they strike as well stupid.

Pls feel free to make urself sound so stupid here. Dont know anything wanna talk kok here.
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Ok, I decided to retract my decision, can't help continue trolling and unfolding your stupidity for whole world to read laugh.gif

1. Since when I said it employment contract??? doh.gif It is a service contract between riders and Grab. Again, if u don't know anything, either just shut up, or at least take effort go find out. Not sitting in front of PC and argue with anyone and everyone unless u want to proof beyond any doubt your stupidity to the world

2. Putarhalim betul......do u know Grab take certain % of the money as commission. Exactly how it work, too long to explain, neither I think your intelligence can comprehend it. Plus, I cannot say I am expert either, coz I never Grab before, but, at least I understand how the mechanics work. For your pea brain understanding, I would just say Grab not just take customer money and pay driver thru bank, they deduct commisision, Mau study how it work, go sign up for Grab, they will explain, dungu doh.gif And, even u sign up, doesn't mean u need to drive. Plus u can learn something at least outside, rather than sitting in front computer making fool yourself to be laughing stocks to the world, unless that's your objective

3. Wah...this one classic. Must bold it today [/QUOTE]strike means the newly signed up riders wont be riding as well la cuz they strike as well stupid.. First day join oledi decided to strike laugh.gif


[quote=WaCKy-Angel,Sep 28 2018, 11:56 AM]ayam interested to know what is written in the contract.
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Errr.....Let me dig out whether i still have the old contract last time I sign up for Grab few years ago, supposedly confidential, cannot take out, but, Grab centre being run by bunch of kiddos wannabe, and in matters of confusion, I decided last min not to sign up, i manage to take the contract out laugh.gif

[quote=kevin23,Sep 28 2018, 11:57 AM]Haha, have fun . No wonder Malaysia cant move forward with stupid ppl like u around. Also pls grow up kiddo. Troll ur mother la
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laugh.gif When everything fail and being exposed by others as idiots, start name calling already laugh.gif kiddo betul.....like primary school kid, lost in argument, call out father mother name laugh.gif

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post Sep 28 2018, 12:31 PM

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QUOTE(kevin23 @ Sep 28 2018, 11:55 AM)
1. Feel free to show the contract stating amount of salary paid etc etc.

2. Of cuz i know not all is paid by cash. Some paid by card. Same thing. Grab just takes customers money and pays driver thru bank acc .how come u so bodo one?

3.Stupid bongok, today strike means the newly signed up riders wont be riding as well la cuz they strike as well stupid.

Pls feel free to make urself sound so stupid here. Dont know anything wanna talk kok here.
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post Sep 28 2018, 12:37 PM

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[quote=rooney723,Sep 28 2018, 12:02 PM]
last time he oso go comment in some thread about cars, most likely a middle aged unker who is a die hard honda fanboi or a honda salesman, he kutuk korean cars like fark without any valid points n keep defend his beloved honda

ppl giv constructive comments but he just keep on repeating his useless baseless arguments and bashing to korean cars

so duneed to waste time arguing wif him, i see him i also ignore dy, u are like talking to an idiot who is very stubborn and full of stupid bullshits
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[quote=kevin23,Sep 28 2018, 12:31 PM]
strike means the newly signed up riders wont be riding as well la cuz they strike as well stupid.[/b]. First day join oledi decided to strike laugh.gif
Errr.....Let me dig out whether i still have the old contract last time I sign up for Grab few years ago, supposedly confidential, cannot take out, but, Grab centre being run by bunch of kiddos wannabe, and in matters of confusion, I decided last min not to sign up, i manage to take the contract out laugh.gif
laugh.gif When everything fail and being exposed by others as idiots, start name calling already laugh.gif kiddo betul.....like primary school kid, lost in argument, call out father mother name laugh.gif
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Its ok. Its ok to lose sometimes. Its ok to admit u lost. Try harder yea kiddo!
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Lost? laugh.gif Never in my mind to determine who is winner or loser in argument, it more of pointing out what is rignt and wrong. But, seems u cannot accept your ignorance and choose continue to be stupid, nothing much can we do.....

I challenge if you can find someone agree with your argument, just like I manage to find someone who have same view about your stupidness
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post Sep 28 2018, 12:43 PM

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QUOTE(river.sand @ Sep 28 2018, 12:33 PM)
Food providers should cut price lor, since they don't need tables for delivery customers, and don't need to wash dishes.
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QUOTE(unknown_2 @ Sep 28 2018, 12:37 PM)
for on9 delivery service, the f&b always bloat the price.
honestbee for example, say if u eat at shop, that item on the menu is 20, but if u order via honestbee apps, it's 30 + delivery.

i order b4 nasi padang/campur via grab, the typical chicken, egg, vege, which would normally cost <RM10, it cost ~15 using grabfood. on top of that, delivery fees.
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Is it because those delivery service also charge some listing fee to the restaurant. Therefore, in order for the restaurant to recover it back, they increase price? Or, maybe to cover cost of packaging? confused.gif
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post Sep 28 2018, 03:19 PM

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QUOTE(bristlebb @ Sep 28 2018, 03:15 PM)
what is the choice of grab kuli have? icon_idea.gif
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stop lor...... laugh.gif

grabfood rider - move to mcd/ pizzahut/ kfc/ courier delivery
grabcar driver - move to taxi

but then, they all will tied up to employment, kena ada timetable, ada clock in, clock out......no sukak sukak mogok, duwan work laugh.gif

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