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post Jun 19 2019, 08:21 PM

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QUOTE(ITforce @ Jun 18 2019, 05:54 PM)
My current car insurance no transfer NCD so no deduct NCD, but my sales advisor got cancel my old car insurance with my 55% NCD. Old car sold to sales advisor used Car dealer.

So, if I renew current car insurance next time will get back my 55% NCD deduction?
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AFAIK,
1. Only the insured can cancel the insurance for existing car,
2. You need to contact your insurance company of the old car to cancel the insurance. You may have problem cancelling the insurance because they need proof of car transfer or they usually ask for proof of road tax cancellation.

When buying a new car and selling off the old car, you have two options w.r.t. NCD transfer:
3. days before selling your old car, you can "withdraw NCD" from the old car and transfer to the new car. Contact your old car insurance company and they will guide you. In my case, I only had to fill up a form and pay the pro-rated non-discounted premium for my old car. Your released NCD will be captured in the system and the new car can use the NCD straight away.

4. You pay full premium for your new car (zero NCD) like what you have done now. You can either:
i) do like point no.3 - but it's a waste of money since you have sold the car
ii) cancel the policy of the old car and withdraw NCD.
After that, contact your new insurance company and tell them you have NCD. They should refund you the excess premium paid. No need to wait until next renewal.
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post Jun 19 2019, 08:23 PM

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QUOTE(babylon52281 @ Jun 19 2019, 02:28 PM)
Aluminium oxidises, it doesn't rust. If you see a whitish layer like fine powder on the surface, that is aluminium oxidation.
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Indeed. It's one of the reasons high-rise building windows with aluminium rivets fall off.
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post Jun 27 2019, 11:09 AM

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QUOTE(ITforce @ Jun 25 2019, 08:09 PM)
Do u all feel that the FL suspension especially rear side is kinda hard when going through bump or hump?
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Yes.

QUOTE(ITforce @ Jun 25 2019, 08:11 PM)
My door panels never opened before AFAIK. Unless the tint shop opened them to do tinting before I collect my new car. But my friend says tinting no need open up door panels...
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For my ride, the 3M installer only opened partially the top section, just enough to paste the tint film.

Now my driver's door panel makes the tik tik sound when I push with my hand and when I drive on curvy roads.
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post Jul 4 2019, 06:54 PM

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Guys, question about HIP again.

I received a few quotations from the Honda showroom where I bought my car last year. Second year V Spec insured value has dropped to RM66k-72k.

Only Liberty states Agreed Value. The rest either state market value or insured value. Should I be concerned if I choose the one without Agreed Value?

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post Jul 5 2019, 12:04 AM

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QUOTE(babylon52281 @ Jul 4 2019, 11:58 PM)
Which of those is higher Agreed or Market values?
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Liberty, which is not my preferred company.
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post Jul 7 2019, 12:38 PM

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QUOTE(babylon52281 @ Jul 5 2019, 01:47 AM)
If Agreed value is higher, in the incident where car is total loss they may choose to payout following market value since that is the industry practice.
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QUOTE(SMH @ Jul 5 2019, 08:57 AM)
Not sure if this explains:

user posted image

just that dunno what value is the ism valuation value....
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QUOTE(dickybird @ Jul 5 2019, 11:38 AM)
With Liberty, they state what your agreed value sum is. Dunno what the others do.
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QUOTE(dares @ Jul 5 2019, 11:45 AM)
Thank you for all your replies. I checked my market value online using the link dares provided, it showed RM66.5k.
Zurich: Sum insured RM66k, zero excess, ~RM1100
Berjaya Sompo:Sum insured RM70k, compulsory access RM400, ~RM1350
Liberty : Sum insured RM71k, zero excess, ~RM1250
Etiqa : Sum covered RM74k, zero excess ~RM1350

Based on the diagram provided by SMH, Honda says Agreed Value is 100% Sum Insured. Does it make economic sense for the 3 insurance companies to insure more than market value, if they are going to pay me 100% sum insured if I lose or total my car?
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post Jul 7 2019, 09:20 PM

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QUOTE(steventan85 @ Jul 7 2019, 01:56 PM)
how many yrs car ? Still got 66k value.mine around 52k ,V spec, 2015 June.
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Mine was registered in Aug last year. So you are better off than me, especially considering yours is pre-FL (no offence, but later model tends to command higher price).

QUOTE(babylon52281 @ Jul 7 2019, 02:22 PM)
For 2016, you are getting a preFL GM6 City. Technically sound, and still looks the best among its competitors (*cough alien Vios*) but built quality is a hit or miss. There are some owners who claimed the built is better than FL and others have similar complaints to FL users (FL built quality is like down the drain).

BUT.... in terms of safety specs, only Vspec version with 6 airbags is worth to get. The lower spec ones only have 2 airbags. The lower spec ones too have far less equipment than FL lower spec cars.
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+1, IIRC the lower variants do not have VSA too.

QUOTE(babylon52281 @ Jul 7 2019, 02:25 PM)
Anything not stated in manual & online service guideline is optional. But aircon filter is one of the mandatory replacement items so I let them change that thou last service I asked if this can opt out and they said yes, so next time I will change myself. Always get green light from them b4 straying from the servicing.

BTW if not happy can always change SC. I changed to my 3rd SC dy.
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I'd be cautious when it comes to verbal green light. I feel the SCs are worried about driving away customers, so they might anyhow say OK. We all know dirty aircon filter won't cause much problem (if it is really dirty, you'd lose the aircon flow anyway). If there is a need to claim, say, a blower, then it will be your words vs theirs.

QUOTE(babylon52281 @ Jul 7 2019, 02:28 PM)
Doesn't make sense they will payback sum above the market value of ur car. Insurance is not a loss making business. Which why I said they likely will have some clause to follow and payback according to market. Ur gonna be paying more premium for nuts.
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Exactly my thinking. My previous Vios had market value of RM18k based on the insurance companies' online data base and I could not insure lower than that. When I sold it a few months after renewing the insurance, it could only fetch RM11k, so I had effectively over insured the car.

In the case of the City, the real trade-in value might even be lower than the figure derived, so I might as well go for the lowest reasonable coverage.
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post Jul 8 2019, 01:57 PM

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QUOTE(babylon52281 @ Jul 7 2019, 11:34 PM)
IINM, preFL Espec has VSA but only 2 airbags. FL Espec is VSA plus 4 airbags.

The real value RV of ur car will always be lower than market value. That value is like the most ideal highest price of a car (probably for one that's never use or something like that). Real resale value will benchmark that and go lower depending on usage, wear&tear, accidents&repairs, etc. But I suspect market value is more towards the price where the car is resold to 2nd hand buyers.
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I've never claimed for lost of car or total loss from accident. I wonder how they come to the figure. But if I'm claiming for total loss, it means I'm alive and well so that itself would be a blessing. Who cares how much higher I can get, right?


QUOTE(otnuus @ Jul 8 2019, 11:09 AM)
Mine also registered August last year using Etiqa. From the same link hybrid is RM65.9k. You getting quotation by yourself or going back to Honda SC? Guess it's time for me to start ask for quotation already.
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The used car dealers will tekan you if you try to let go your hybrid to them. Heck, any car is not good enough to command the price we want, if we approach them.

My quotations are from Honda SC. I gave them a call instead of visiting, but that is the branch I bought my car from, so I just had to give them my car registration number to get the quotations.
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post Jul 25 2019, 11:07 AM

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QUOTE(SMH @ Jul 25 2019, 09:55 AM)
This morning 7am my city engine turn off by itself.

How it happen?
7am I started the car w/o aircond, without waiting for warm up, i straightaway drive for 50m (very short distance), then turn on headlight (car judder abit for a second or two), then another 30m i turn on aircond. then next few second engine turn off by itself. All in drive about 100m...then i immediately restart the car w/o aircond (only turn on headlight few second after restart) and seems ok ady. Then only on aircond after another 300m down the road.

I suspect battery issue. Due to my driving pattern - short distance and not long enough to recharge.

Me drive very short distance everyday,
- 7am drop a kid to school (drives 10min to school and stop, then drives 10 min back home),
- then later 8am drop another one to kinder. Then goes to work. Drives about 20min.
- Evening is just reverse sequence, drive 10min and stop to tabao.
- Drive 7min to nursery and stop.
- Drive 10 min to home.

Maybe get a another NS60 battery + battery charger that keep on swapping /charging battery on alternate month? but damn cumbersome ler...living in apartment somemore...
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How old is your car? My driving pattern is also similar, mostly short trips. My car is 11,000km, one year old. Battery looks ok as I checked with battery tester (state of health 100%, state of charge hovers at 98%). My last car battery managed to last 2 years until I traded in the car for this City. I have 2 dashcams in the car.
My FC is also 9-10km/L due to frequent short trips.
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post Jul 25 2019, 03:05 PM

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QUOTE(SMH @ Jul 25 2019, 11:35 AM)
bought mine @ Jan 2019, so about 6 mth old now.
wonder everyday also short trip (lately even weekend also short trip only ie 100% short trips), how is battery ever gonna be full charge?

going to puchong SC next weekend for service, that will be 15.4km 'long' trip, not sure by time reach there it will full charge the batt or not. If full charge by then perhaps SC cant detect anything wrong with batt?
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The battery tester can test the state of health of the battery. For your 12-month servicing, may I suggest you do it before the anniversary of your car so that it's still possible to claim a new battery if needed (12-month warranty for battery).
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post Jul 25 2019, 04:52 PM

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QUOTE(SMH @ Jul 25 2019, 03:36 PM)
If i dismantle battery for charging and then later on put it back. Will there be any bad effect to car?

Just lost radio channel memory only right? will it cause other 'side effect' which i am not aware of?

To Remove:
-ve first, then +ve

To Connect:
+ve first then -ve,

right?
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I once removed my battery to clear off the sulphation on the terminal. Only my clock got reset. Radio preset remained, probably because I only disconnected the battery for < 15 minutes?

To remove, remove the black (ground) cable first, then red cable. Installation is the reverse.

Do that note that the battery is much heavier than it looks biggrin.gif
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post Jul 25 2019, 04:53 PM

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QUOTE(babylon52281 @ Jul 25 2019, 04:18 PM)
Ur ECU will have to constantly 're remember' ur driving characteristics so everytime you drive you may feel the response is different. Also there will be excessive wear & tear on the battery terminals and cable connectors. If you worry battery fast kong, just get a bigger one like NS60.
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Can install those quick release or battery terminal connector to avoid issues of wearing off the soft poles.
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post Jul 26 2019, 01:37 PM

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Do you guys continually having to top up coolant? My ride is close to a year old, 11,000km. I topped up once when it was, IIRC, a few weeks old. Now it requires topping up again. Still above minimum line though. In all my previous cars, I never had to top up coolant as part of owner's routine maintenance, ever.
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QUOTE(CalvinLGJ @ Jul 26 2019, 04:49 PM)
I do check mine from time to time but it hardly drops below min level. By the time maintenance date it gets topped up at sc.
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Does it mean your coolant level drops over time too?
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post Jul 27 2019, 09:19 PM

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QUOTE(cempedaklife @ Jul 27 2019, 03:29 PM)
I think depends on when you topup. After a drive, wait how long etc. Its a reservoir anyway. I once top up then next few days dropped from max again. I top up again, a few days later it become more than max. Now I check two month like that need top up once. I always want to see the level at max.
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It definitely depends on whether it's hot or cold when you check. Hot coolant expands, so you'd expect higher level compared to when it's cold. What I noticed is the coolant drops over time as I check it when hot and cold and compared to the previous recorded levels (hot and cold).
If it's lost due to evaporation of H2O molecules, then therein lies the dilemma: to top up with coolant or distilled water... If it's evaporation of water molecules, adding coolant will increase its concentration.

QUOTE(CalvinLGJ @ Jul 27 2019, 05:03 PM)
Abit only, hardly can be noticed.
Once a month i check bonet for radiator fluids, engine oil level, washer water and check tyre pressure.

Btw this happens to my other cars too, especially if its your daily driver.

I guess if it drops alot to min level within 1-2 months then better have it check at sc.
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I was pretty alarmed during the first few weeks of getting the car as it dropped from max to a few mm above the min line. The drop rate has definitely reduced. All my daily drivers did not have such issue, including the ancient Mercedes W124 which incidentally uses pressured expansion coolant tank (yes, the coolant spare tank is subjected to radiator pressure as well.

QUOTE(dirtrun @ Jul 27 2019, 05:27 PM)
If coolant then dont have to top de reservoir , as it is sucking the xtra amount of coolant and replacing it back when engine cools.. if u top up when this is happening u'd get more than max amount when engine cools..
Top up when whole reservoir is empty..
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As mentioned, the level drops over time which I find unsettling hence asking bros here whether they experience the same thing. Btw, you don't wait till the whole expansion tank is empty because it will mean sucking in air into your cooling system. There is a reason they put a "Min" line there. Air/oxygen brings corrosion.
And you will get more than max when the engine is hot, not when it cools. Liquid expands when hot, Sir.
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QUOTE(babylon52281 @ Jul 27 2019, 10:18 PM)
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Frequently getting stuck in long jams or long drives or long time idling the car can contribute to excessive water loss.

Distilled water like this? ( https://www.spritzer.com.my/shop/product/25...ter-1500ml-x-12 ). I never thought to use it for topping up radiator. Apparently in next door tered there was some suggestion ( https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2474833/all )
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If there is no internal/external leakage, the only way is to lose it through evaporation from the expansion tank (or spare tank as it's also known). If the level in the expansion tank can rise and fall, it means it's not air tight. When the coolant expands due to high temperature, air will be pushed out together with water moisture and that is where we lose water molecules.

I'm not sure how pure those drinking distilled water is. The only way I guess, is to check its TDS (total dissolved solids) and conductivity.
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QUOTE(babylon52281 @ Jul 27 2019, 10:18 PM)
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Frequently getting stuck in long jams or long drives or long time idling the car can contribute to excessive water loss.

Distilled water like this? ( https://www.spritzer.com.my/shop/product/25...ter-1500ml-x-12 ). I never thought to use it for topping up radiator. Apparently in next door tered there was some suggestion ( https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2474833/all )
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If there is no internal/external leakage, the only way is to lose it through evaporation from the expansion tank (or spare tank as it's also known). If the level in the expansion tank can rise and fall, it means it's not air tight. When the coolant expands due to high temperature, air will be pushed out together with water moisture and that is where we lose water molecules.

I'm not sure how pure those drinking distilled water is. The only way I guess, is to check its TDS (total dissolved solids) and conductivity.
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QUOTE(CalvinLGJ @ Jul 28 2019, 11:37 AM)
The only way to confirm you have a problem is observe further. If you have extreme levels of evaporation, ie, drop below min level alot after 2 months, seek SC to check is better.

Like my car, only drop very little per month, after 6 months reach slightly above the min level in which the SC tops up for free. So i didnt bother about it.
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As mentioned, I am seeking information on whether this small drop of coolant in our City happens to most of us here. At this low loss rate, it's unlikely to yield any results of pressure test. I'm trying to avoid having unnecessary test done because it will involve opening of radiator cap or disconnecting hoses - which may cause actual leakage over time.

I've owned various cars for over 2 decades and have never had to refill coolant.

The first time it happened, I assumed there were air pockets in the cooling system of the new car.
Thanks to you and others, I'm now convinced it's a normal occurrence because it happens to other cars too.
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QUOTE(babylon52281 @ Jul 28 2019, 12:59 PM)
Not sure myself. Which why previously i've brought up using battery water to refill it but some don't think its correct, then i search around and found computer watercooling modder tered, and they share similar concerns and idea for using this spritzer water. Since comparatively its next best thing after lab made deionised water (DI). This one i have no idea how to get cheaply.
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Battery water is supposed to be distilled water, but going by the price and how things are here, you and I know how subjective the quality is. In any case, I suppose either type is better than leaving it at the hands of SC technicians who for all we know, just top it up with tap water like how all outside mechanics do.
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QUOTE(arza04 @ Jul 28 2019, 08:07 PM)
Anyone here already use the floor jack? Just now i used mine to change flat tyre. Removing the tyre is okay, but when installing back the tyre after repair the height clearance is not enough. Need to use exora jack only can get enough clearance biggrin.gif My tyre is stock from factory 15inch
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This is interesting, and worrying.

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