guyz...i m in middle of matriculation in kedah,bt i gt offer letter fr ASEAN asking me 2 go 4 d selection test. Should i go n accept it ?? or jz continue my matriculation???
btw,wats d whole process if i go 4 ASEAN?? study pre-u there den continue wif university or wat??? any ASEAN scholar can share xperience here???

Being an ASEAN scholar rocks man. It'll be an experience of a lifetime

u can accept de matriculation 1st
den u go for de asean test
if u get de asean scholarship den juz reject matric lo

I think he is already in matriculation by now.
Well dude, ASEAN is better for me, you can go for the selection test, if selected, go for it and leave matriculation.

hey dude...

if u hav opportunity 2 go 5 ASEAN scholarship, dont waste your time in matrix! common sense..but only if u can get it..
sitting for a test will hav no harm for u

ASEAN scholarship has no bond...u can go anywhere u wan after that..u can choose 2 continue in sg or go anywhere u wan..no bond no string attached..

but if u get JPA or PETRONAS...there are other things 2 consider..
JPA and PETRONAS get u all the way to overseas uni
but ASEAN..will c how good u are and depends whether u can get a scholarship for uni after that....
of course..the price is the bond...PETRONAS bond is the longest..2 years for every year of sponsorship

definately, take the ASEAN scholarship!

ASEAN FTW man... don stay in matriculation which u end up in local U..
Asean will giv u a better future.

ya ya true....
leave the matriculation immediately.. huhuh

my teacher went for asean schola, went to study in brunei..

It's a selection test ler... i think they will only consider your acceptance AFTER they see your test results....

YOU DEFINITELY HAVE TO GO FOR THE TEST! ASEAN SCHOLARSHIP man... Must try... not any tom, d*** and harry get call up for the test... it means your good! try...

If things don't go the way u wanted it to be... then continue with matriks kedah...

All the best!

I also wonder what's next laa after pre- uni for this scholarship.... Does anyone know?

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Added on June 1, 2007, 12:46 pmEH! why the word "TOM, d*** and HARRY" dicensored!! it's a saying ler... jadi 18 sx pulak! alamak! haha

This post has been edited by Tasbmed: Jun 1 2007, 12:46 PM

Go for ASEAN of course .

take the ASEAN scholarship, get into uni, graduate with your degree and leave this country for good...

that was what i should have done, sigh...

dont waste such a good oppurtunity. ASEAN scholarship is hard to get than any other else in malaysia. correct me if i was wrong. matriculation is just if you have other choices.

If you can pass the selection test, go for ASEAN scholarship. No point wasting time in matric whereas ASEAN scholarship is a pass for you to go anywhere.

Matrix

1) You're almost guaranteed a place in local U. Local U tuition fee is very very cheap, especially for medic and dental courses.
2) Exams are semester-based, and exam marks will include project work, so less burden compared to S'pore A-levels.
3) You cannot go overseas (some Uni accept Malaysian Matrix though). forget abt NUS, NTU, Hong Kong U, Cambridge, Oxford... You can go American Uni if you sit for SAT or/and TOEFL. However, there're always local pricate colleges accept Matrix, if you cannot get into your preferred courses in local U.

S'pore A-levels
1) You will get a quality education, Thus, it will be much more stressful compared to Matrix.
2) You're not guaranteed a place in NTU/NUS/SMU. Even if you get it, you are not guaranted of a scholarship. Tuition fees are quite high, abt RM 60K for most of the courses.
3) You'll get a higher salary upon graduation in S'pore. AVERAGE Starting salary abt S'pore$ 2700, compared to RM 1800 in Malaysia.

If you're prepared to work hard for the next 10 years, ASEAN Scholarship would certaionly be a BRILLIANT opprtunity for you.

thx 4 ur guyz opinions..i ll go 4 d test definately....jz wondering IF i REALLY gt it,wat should i choose....
After studyin pre-u there, hav 2 fight 4 scholarship summore?
tat means if my results r bad,i m done there ???
FYI,my family background is nt very good..so if it's really like wat wgy589 said,i think i wont b able 2 afford it...

wgy listed them all. The pros and cons. But i'd like to highlight one thing. Studying in singapore = stress like never before =)

Actually, if you go for Matriks and study hard and fraduate from UM, with some work experience, it is possible for you to find a job in Singapore. Asean scholarship is not really the best of the scholarships. You don't really get much of a headstart to a life in Singapore either. My friend is a very intelligent girl and she came back coz she couldn't handle the stress after a few months of studying in Singapore. You will be among all the Asean scholars and they are all very talented in many area and this may affect you psychologically. Beside that you'll have to actively participat ein coco and coco there is not like coco here. There is is really active and you may be back in your dorm by 6pm only.

You are not gurtantee any place in any SG Uni and your do not necessarily stand any higer chance of getting into one. Even if you do and qualify for the education grant)also know as asean scholarship for tertiary edu), you still will have to fork out a huge sum as the grant is only partial and you still have to work in SG for three years after that. And that is no job gurantee, you must find a job like any other singaporeans.

Yup...it will be really stressful when studying in singapore for their a-level...among all the kiasu people...but you might beat them in bm paper...haha...just go ahead and try the test...no doubt,comparing between asean and matric...asean's standard is higher and harder to get...and no bond after that compared to other scholarships

Also another note : Matriculation is wayyyyyyy easier than education in Sg. I know of a several seniors who scored a 4.0 flat GPA in matriks

yea...really easy...but they have to put in effort also...
i heard tat in one matric college,they already got 290 students getting 4.0 flat..

wow dude, how did they track you and call you up for the test?

well asean is damn prestigious, and the singapore govt will hire you and pay you big $$ to work there in the future, they need talented and smart people, such as yourself threadstarter, if you pass the test, and interview which they surely have.

so all the besT!

well,dey jz send me a letter asking me go 4 test.....
actually...i m felling 2 go,bt i scared i wont make it through untill uni in s'pore.....

i thought everyone can apply for it and it is up to them to call u for the test or not

aiyo...don worry too much about it...
when the time comes..everything will be solved..
after years of being a scholar..i learned something..

brilliance is proportional to hardwork
and hardwork is proportional to pressure
so..brilliance is proportional to pressure..

for example..mayb not everyone can get into oxbridge..and ppl always scared they cant make it there due to the so called competition..
BUT the thing is..u'll change when u go there..when u're there..u'll adapt to that situation and culture..in the end..it is jus the same..so don worry too much about it

mumeichan's fren is somethin worth noticing...but oftenly..it happened bcoz of low self confidence..but why low self confidence? bcoz ppl lik some ppl here...lik to scare ppl lik u b4 u go..in the end...u lost even b4 u go

my exp tells me that those guai lou isnt that brilliant as some of us think..wat they got? wat they hav is only self confidence in which we're lacking in..when u're lacking of self confidence in front of ppl with high self confidence...of course u gonna listen 2 watever bullsh*t they say...in the end..of course they are better than u...

but being a scholar isnt that hard nor that easy..it is jus that u need 2 know how 2 adjust ur time..(not all the time though)..

jus go with the flow...if u get it..jus go..and c where it leads....and define your life yourself! there is no template for your path 2 adulthood..

No need to think twice. asean scholarship is the first choice. Once you have graduate from one of the Asean University, i believe u will get a better job offer from oversea, compares to malaysia. beside that, u hav the opportunity to widen your view and knowledge by studying oversea. g luck to u

And what if he doesn't get a place in an University in Singapore or he can't afford to finance his studies if he gets a place.

just go to the asean selection test 1st. If accepted then drop from matrics la.

why is there so many what if to think about? stop putting him down or scare him away..

why must we constantly scaring him? cant we jus ask him 2 study harder so that he can guarantee a place in a university?

as i said in my last post..brilliance proportional to pressure...
if he is in such a situation..he would know that he cant fail...and he will do everything that he could..he will try harder...in the end..he will be in the journey of success...let us look back at the ppl last time..they struggled too..do u think that everyone who got into the uni back in 1970s, 80s, 90s and even now are rich??? obviously no..those living in poverty have huge space in the pie (chart)..in the end...they still get wat they want...they succeed..and why they are so motivated? because they know their own background..wat they have and wat they need to do..our father..uncles and grandfather can make it...and why cant we make it or make it even better? why crawl when others run? why stop and satisfied wif ourselves while others keeep improving themselves.?? stop the malaysian attitude...bersyukur??yea...we should feel gratitude to whatever we got..but dont stop there..accept comments from others...ppl (mag) say we're rude we don deny it right away...we think about it...use the word 'noted' rather than 'no! you are wrong'..........

ooops....went too far...no offense mumeichan...peace

This post has been edited by malaos: Jun 5 2007, 05:03 PM

Actually I don't mean to scare him, but in reality Singapore A-Levels is really tough and the have such a hectic ECC there. Plus uni fess is really hig and it is not easy to get into one. Sure he can study hard, but if he can't pay the fees how? If he chooses matriks he at least has a higher chance to score well. Less effort has to be put into his studies. Plus it is easier for an excellent student to inter Malaysian public U rather than singapore U. And malaysia uni fees is really cheap, 10-30k for the whole course. for singapore it is close to 10-20kSGD per year.

tats wat i m worrying....

worried about wat??

the fees.............

If you make it through Singapore A-levels with good results (3As or 4As), it's almost certain that you will receive ASEAN again for your university studies at NUS or NTU.

If you don't make it, you can always return to Malaysian private colleges or universities to study. That's what a few of my friends did.

As for Malaysian public university, I don't have the statistics, but what are the chances of you getting your 1st choice course even if you have 4-flat, especially when you are not a Bumi student?

Think about it.

This post has been edited by Discrucio Anima: Jun 8 2007, 03:38 AM

Actually, getting the Asean Scholarship for tertiary level is not hard, the hard part is getting into the university and you must be accepted into the university first to be eligible for the Asean Scholarship. And the Asean Scholarship for tertiary level is different from Asean Scholarship for Pre-U. It is still call Asean scholarship but also goes by some name like "singapore government education grant"(I am not sure of the exact name). As far as I know it doe snot fully cover all fee and the allowances are not much. Please go to the NUS and NTU website, there is info about the Asean scholarship for each respective Uni.

However, is it also true that you could always return to a local private college to study.

Not all Asean Pre-U scholars are also Asean Undergraduate scholars, and not all STPM students are Asean Undergraduate scholars either. Somehow it's easier for those with Singapore A-levels to enter NUS/NTU than those with STPM (sometimes high scorers can't get in), but the entry requirements are definitely lower than that of the scholarship.

Tuition fees are fully covered as long as you take the MOE tuition grant. The grant does not provide any allowance. The allowance from the ASEAN undergraduate scholarship is $4300 per year, but that's not enough to cover all your expenses there.

This post has been edited by Discrucio Anima: Jun 8 2007, 12:38 PM

Ha?

Tuition fees in local U Engineering is only abt RM 5 K and for medicine, it's abt RM 9K for the whole course.

Tuition fee for NTU/NUS courses is at S$ 6720 per annum, except Medical and Dental course which is abt S$ 19270 per annum.

Hope you do your research first before making any comments.

if i were you, just go for the test and wait for the letter if u get selected. its better for u to find out the possible junior college they're posting u to, cuz the environment differs with each colleges.

and besides, you really need to know what you're planning to do. if you want to read medicine, i'll say its better for u to take stpm or matrix, cuz using sg a-lvls and competing for a place in nus is really like hitting lottery; u have to go through tests and interviews (not 1 or 2 only, but quite a number). and din u read the newspaper? singapore health board now accepts medical degrees from UM and some another local uni to practise in sg. so, it means that u can work in sg if u graduated from there.

i heard the latest system is that MOE(ministry of education) will take each and every test u take for performance reference, so if you hit below some marks, you may get terminated. i've got friends who got terminated few months b4 a-lvls. so my friend had no choice but to continue on with the system and PAY for the education, which can be quite hefty.

so, all in all...it really depends on u. if you are adventurous and willing to take the challenge, go for it. i don't think that you'll lose out that easily, since you are in matrix.

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Added on June 9, 2007, 12:43 amif i were you, just go for the test and wait for the letter if u get selected. its better for u to find out the possible junior college they're posting u to, cuz the environment differs with each colleges.

and besides, you really need to know what you're planning to do. if you want to read medicine, i'll say its better for u to take stpm or matrix, cuz using sg a-lvls and competing for a place in nus is really like hitting lottery; u have to go through tests and interviews (not 1 or 2 only, but quite a number). and din u read the newspaper? singapore health board now accepts medical degrees from UM and some another local uni to practise in sg. so, it means that u can work in sg if u graduated from there.

i heard the latest system is that MOE(ministry of education) will take each and every test u take for performance reference, so if you hit below some marks, you may get terminated. i've got friends who got terminated few months b4 a-lvls. so my friend had no choice but to continue on with the system and PAY for the education, which can be quite hefty.

so, all in all...it really depends on u. if you are adventurous and willing to take the challenge, go for it. i don't think that you'll lose out that easily, since you are in matrix.



This post has been edited by tyc00n: Jun 9 2007, 12:43 AM

For my batch (04/05), we only knew which hostel we were assigned to, not the junior college (but for some you could ask the seniors where they are from, eg Victoria Hall residents will definitely go to VJC, unless things have changed in the past 2 years)

I don't think trivial quizzes and monthly tests determine whether you get to stay or not. Again, for my batch, it was the promotional exams (final of year 1) and mid terms of year 2 that were used to monitor your progress. You'll be placed on the list if you did badly for Promo, and then get dropped if you don't improve by year 2. You'll only have to pay for the remaining months, so it's NOT as hefty as described in the post above.