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darkthunder
post Oct 22 2018, 06:21 PM

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Sarri should just drop Morata, Willian, Kovacic and Alonso. All this player have been average this season. Let Giroud , Barkley, Pedro and Emerson start.

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post Oct 29 2018, 06:09 PM

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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Oct 29 2018, 11:24 AM)
Kovacic is overated though...aside from some close control dribbling and shielding i didnt see much meaningful contribution from him in terms of direct assist, goals...

Prefer barkley ahead of him. Hes direct thourgh ball passing to strikers, long shots and physicality when defending/pressing.
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You are not the only one with that thought. When Kovacic play only Hazard can create chance in front of goal but Barkley gave more threat in final third than Kovacic. Barkley also gave more defensive contribution than Kovacic. When I watch Kovacic play he looks like he can't read the game and always disappear and have wrong positioning when Chelsea attack and got attacked. And Kovacic is a Real Madrid player on loan why the heck Sarri gave him playtime instead of training Barkley and RLC into a proper midfield.

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post Nov 12 2018, 07:20 AM

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After 18 match I saw that Sarri is not a tactical manager. Keep playing 3 defensive midfield each match. No plan B. Substitution at fixed time 60th,65th and 80th minute in each match. Keep giving two of the worst player playing time which is Morata and Kovacic. The hope of winning trophy is not there since Sarri seems like the same manager type as Klopp that has only one tactic. Keep complaining about defending when he can easily swith 4-3-3 to 4-2-3-1 and pair kante and jorginho at the back. In everton match his substitution is really questionable. Worst player kovacic at 80th minute. Willian that played quite well got sub instead of morata. After subbing fabregas in he should rotate kante and fabregas position making kante cdm and fabregas rmf.

Kovacic easily the worst player on the pitch against everton. Starting at the first minute he is basically a bakoyoko that make others look like a bad player. His mistake cost jorgingo and kante both a yellow card. Every time the ball gets to him he just back pass most of the time to luiz. He doesn't bother to cover alonso position when alonso went up. There are even time when he disappear and Hazard who play as left wing need to cover for alonso when it was his job. Bad at attacking. Cannot make a simple risky pass or through ball. Cannot read the game. Always become a statue after he pass the ball. Should have sub him on 30th min or half time but the worst player got sub at 80th minute just like during against M.U. What is more worse is he IS a Real Madrid player that still in CONTRACT with Real Madrid who won't even be at Chelsea next season, why he is playing is something I can never process in my brain.

Played a LOANED player. Doesn't give your own player a chance. Next season will be a mess because of stupid decision by manager. Say goodbye to Hazard he might be at City or Real madrid in another two season.

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post Nov 12 2018, 10:38 AM

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QUOTE(alip_11 @ Nov 12 2018, 08:20 AM)
chill2. bad day at the office for some players. biggrin.gif
true we will not be winning epl this season, need more consistency and winning against all the teams outside of top six

btw, kova not that bad imo tho. not at all near lord baka lvl. lol
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While kovacic is not lord level like bakayoko but Mikel>>kovacic>bakayoko
Watch him played every match and never saw anything good about him. Even last night match he keep giving the ball away to everton player and keep backpassing to Luiz. Rather have mikel who is never good but still better than kovacic.

While winning trophy itself is not the issue but the manager is an issue. No manager with no tacrical ability can win league or even champions league. Look at Klopp he won nothing at liverpool and Sarri=Klopp in tactical term since both have no plan b when their plan a failed. After having Mourinho who has great tactical ability and Conte with versatile tactic although too immature Sarri seems like a massive downgrade in tactical ability wise. Look back at most of the match chelsea played like arsenal during arsene era keep passing the ball with no end product when kovacic is playing. Barkley give more option infront since he is pure attacking midfield yet Sarri choose to play with 3 DEFENSIVE MIDFIELD.

This rant wasn't necessarily just about last night match but more to observation of chelsea first half season.

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post Jan 3 2019, 06:23 AM

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QUOTE(Kerplunk @ Jan 3 2019, 05:44 AM)
Hazard easily the worst player on the pitch today, even worse than morata imo. Tried to do everything on his own, kept giving the ball away with only 2 pathetic efforts on goal. Practically lost the ball every time he tried to dribble. All that after moaning to the coach about having to play CF.

Morata had a legit goal ruled out for offside, bloody linesmen. He did okay and that should've been 1 - 0. Alonso getting a free pass at LB as usual, zero contribution to our attack. What an awful performance.
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Seriously? Hazard is the worst on the pitch? Of course he tried to do everything himself since if the ball went to marata he will fall, pass to alonso he will backpass. Hazard is also the last player on the field that can create chances bar Luiz. Then the only way left is to push yourself into the defence and shoot the ball himself.

Jorginho is easily the worst on the field. Made a lot of dangerous backpass that luckily get saved by defender or keeper, offering nothing during attack, let player roam freely outside the 25 yard box without bothering to block or intercept the ball.

The only reason you say Hazard is the worst is because he is trying, while the truly worst one is always the one who doesn't care about the team. Also Sarri is stupid for not playing Fabregas, the match went better when fabregas got subbed in while Jorginho is still offering nothing and creating more trouble for defender in 90 minutes.

Even AVB played better match than Sarri. Sarri easily the worst and clueless manager in Abramovich era.

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post Jan 3 2019, 12:11 PM

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QUOTE(our_team89 @ Jan 3 2019, 10:14 AM)
looks like now everyone found out that Jorginho is actually an italian Mikel biggrin.gif

since after few matches i didn't like his playing style.

but to completely blame him also not right. why in napoli he can make killer pass but here just full of side and back pass? could it be our forward problem?
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What killer pass? The stats from Napoli shows that in all match in Napoli(152 match) he only had 14 assist. That is really low for a team that score a lot of goal. And Serie A isn't as agressive as EPL that makes him look good since player rarely give a physical fight for the ball. The player come faster in EPL to get the ball he is just being a coward by passing the ball to the back and always positioning himself in between two oppsition player making defender cannot pass the ball to him.
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post Jan 3 2019, 08:19 PM

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QUOTE(zoidx_chung @ Jan 3 2019, 06:38 PM)
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This is quite funny for being a report.

1. Chelsea is not Napoli. If he want Chelsea to play like Napoli why didn't he just stay at Napoli. That way Napoli will play Napoli way. Like Mourinho at United, he tried to make a Chelsea out of United and it didn't work. Look at City, City is playing like City and not Barcelona.

2. Yes striker is indeed a needed position right now but if the club ask Sarri who he he want as a striker Sarri will answer Higuain and Higuain alone. What he need right now is a long term prolific striker like Icardi in his team.l not short term old striker like Higuain.

3. It's not wrong to have your football ideology but not being tactically enough will only hurt himeself. Mourinho has his defensive counter attack style ideology, Conte also quite similar in first season. AVB has his own ideology and Conte wanted to play high ball in his second season. While Mourinho and Conte(1st season) win trophy but AVB didn't is basically at how tactically adaptive they are in a match. Mourinho and Conte(1st season) can easily tweak their tactic to win the match. While AVB and Sarri easily played the same tactic which is using Luiz for long ball and making the winger played individually. And no matter how bad someone play AVB and Sarri never drop their player.

4. In between backing manager and sacking the manager, when was the time Chelsea will back the manager just because of his ideology of football. If he is not winning then he will go. It's really simple.

5. If Sarri is satisfied with current Chelsea that quite proven that he is a not a Top Manager. To a top manager winning a trophy is a top priority but to Sarri keeping position equalised to winning a trophy for a top manager. Same reason why Klopp isn't hail as a top manager no matter how good Liverpool play if he doesn't win then what is the reason you enter a Sport competition if not for winning. Pochettino is another one that is similar in situation win nothing but applauded as the best manager in england. Really similar to Sarri never win anything but called as one of the top manager.

This is super stupid that people forget that football is sport and not entertainment. In sport the better player will play the worse on will sit out. Manager choose new player that suit for team not changing a whole team to suit a player. Winning trophy and medal will make you one of the best and being entertaining win you nothing. Nobody will remember you for being entertaining but people will always honour you when you win something.

To me Sarri is a bigger hypocrite, whiner and moaner than Mourinho. Sarri will go like "It's my job to improve player" but at the same time complaining all the time about the player. He said he doesn't really need to transfer player in but he keep complaining Chelsea being toothless all the time while his tactical and wide gameplay with Jorginho make Chelsea extremely slow in attacking and always being reliant on Hazard to create something while the midfield is there just because there is a midfield in the 4-3-3. He wants the ball to be played on the ground yet he choose a 4-3-3 with 3 defensive position. Keep telling player to keep the ball on ground yet Jorginho his favourite player keep passing the ball to CB. Both LCM and RCM especially Kovacic always give the ball to Hazard and doesn't create space to help Hazard, he will just keep standing in his place or disappear after he pass the ball to Hazard. Sarri should change the position to 4-3-3 or 4-2-3-1 with an attacking midfield to connect the ball to the front 3. This will easily fix problem of the ball that keep going around without any attempt to attack. And drop Jorginho that will help him the most. Sarri also said Kante should cover for Jorginho when in defence which implying that Jorginho doesn't need to cover at the back eventhough he is the last midield before defend line. Dropping Jorginho easily fix 30% of Chelsea problem. Another 50% when you change formation, tactic and player.
20% when Sarri choose the right player for each position and not telling player to do something which they are not good at. Sarri can keep complaining to player to do this and that then the player also can complain about his tactic and player choosement.

What is more weird is that Sarri has a really big ego about his gameplay when he has won nothing in his entire career. I guess this what you call bodoh sombong. He know he is wrong but his ego doesn't want want to fix this just because of his ego.

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post Jan 4 2019, 06:21 AM

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QUOTE(briantwj @ Jan 3 2019, 08:43 PM)
It's obvious. Roman wants Chelsea to play like Napoli. But the fans, we expect trophies. So it's just a matter of fans vs Roman vs results. I still stick by Sarri. I believe he needs a full transfer windows, preseason and full season.

However our striker situation is not solved. And also we need a Hamsik. Kante is doing both Allan and Hamsik's role. Despite having Barkley, RLC and Kovacic on rotation on Hamsik's role. All fail to perform consistently. Sarri will need time. And that's exactly what Roman and fans fear. We want trophies. I say let's give him 1 season.

On Pulisic. I'm not sure to be happy or sad. Happy coz club shows ambition. Sad coz it might signal Hazard is leaving. But iirc, Pulisic is more of a rwg. Hopefully Hazard feels our club is ambitious enough with this signing and decides to stay.

Another question is, is this Sarri's signing? Sarri list down players for Marina, then she decide? Or Marina give list to Sarri, and Sarri picks? I'm kinda scared coz fren told me Sarri is not aware of signing Pulisic. Lol
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It is weird that Abramovich want Chelsea to play like Napoli when Napoli have won nothing during Sarri time. Yes Sarri need to give next season as another chance but he himself need to break down his ego. What Chelsea need in midfield is basically a creative attacking type midfield yet Sarri played 3 defensive type player in midfield. Fabregas is there but he doesn't play for unknown reason. Striker is needed but Sarri only want Higuain and Chelsea and everyone else doesn't want him since it will only be a short term solution. I don't think Sarri list down any player and if there are any all of the will be overrated and overpriced Serie A player which 75% of it will be Napoli player. Wasn't there also article about Laurentis saying that Sarri is basically clueless when choosing a player for transfer that he didn't know what type and playing style player he needs for the team.
Here is rhe link.
https://metro.co.uk/2018/12/19/chelsea-boss...entiis-8264499/

I found it quite funny that Laurentis might try to help Chelsea to stay away from Sarri based on all of his statement before like saying he is one dimensional person and didn't win trophy. Is Laurentis actually trying to help Chelsea from getting Sarri in the past.

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post Jan 4 2019, 10:55 AM

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QUOTE(alip_11 @ Jan 4 2019, 10:39 AM)
i always support the current manager regardless of anything. even during conte era.

btw, saw rumours we're looking at hirving lazano aka chucky. this boy got potential. he's similar to bale imho as iinm he played as lwb/lb before moving upwards and started to blossom
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As long as it is not overpriced and overrated Serie A player then it should be ok. But why another winger and not striker. Timo Werner is cheap this month and he scores a lot for player his age. If a proven prolific striker then Icardi is there but really expensive.
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post Jan 5 2019, 09:23 AM

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QUOTE(yokoloco @ Jan 5 2019, 07:49 AM)
Morata to Sevilla 6 months loan soon.
Callum Wilson linked to us

edit : Solanke to Bournemouth might mean Wilson high chance moving.
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Wouldn't it be better if Chelsea get Timo Werner who is 23 and has good scoring record and assist in Bundesliga and Europe rather than Callum Wilson that has no record at the age of 27. And Callum Wilson isn't that good even when he is currently in his peak career, watched him couple of time before. Both of have similar price. Watched Timo Werner before during World Cup and he is quite good actually.

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post Jan 5 2019, 11:34 AM

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QUOTE(yokoloco @ Jan 5 2019, 10:07 AM)
most likely for the HG status, since Fabregas might be leaving. Drinkwater too. Moses and Cahill as well.
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Sell non HG striker and buy non HG striker. Find another player for HG, striker is too dire just for the sake of being HG.

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post Jan 6 2019, 06:18 AM

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CHO played better than Willian in RW but Willian still the first choice. Ampadu played better at midfield yet Kovacic/Barkley will play ahead of him. Emerson offer more in LB still Alonso will play. Fabregas help team more in attacking and defending than Jorginho yet Jorginho will still start. Hazard is too tired to play het he get subbed in instead of Moses and in the end Hazard offer nothing in his whole minute inside the pitch because of fatigue. What Sarri need isn't a striker or any player but more to a brain for football.

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post Jan 6 2019, 09:48 AM

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QUOTE(skylinelover @ Jan 6 2019, 08:33 AM)
Hope fab can help Henry revived Monaco bruce.gif

Henry best in EPL but as coach still below his old mate Vieira and its sad sweat.gif
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Not many legendary player achieve status as top manager. Most top manager are just an unknown player during their days. Henry might be one of them or it's just Monaco is really bad right now. On another hand Gerrand and Lampard are doing really well for their first job as a manager.
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post Jan 9 2019, 06:52 AM

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Serously people here. Blame the manager not the player. The player just follow the manager order. Manager choose the starting eleven. Manager choose to play Willian, Alonso and Barkley. Manager choose to bench Luiz who is the 3rd highest chance creator for Chelsea. Manager choose to play with 3 winger he even give a statement about it to the media. Manager decides to bench Fabregas who can give you at least 10 assist per season and replace him with Jorginho who has 0 assist. Manager choose player who contributed to nothing in whole match like Jorginho, Alonso and Barkley/Kovacic. Manager choose to play player that always slow down the ball like Jorginho, Alonso, Willian and Barkley/Kovacic. So blame the manager, the player has tried everything they can on the pitch yet manager didn't bother to create a tactic to create a goal. Chelsea has the current second highest cances created and who cared about it if you don't score. If Chelsea have 20 chances created and scored all of them and win 1-0 that's enough. Created a hundred of them and scored all of them but losing the match, that's pure stupid. You can score a 100 goal per season for league but if you don't win it what is the point. You can have all the best player in the world but if you didn't win any trophy then there is no meaning to it. Basically even Sarri has the world best squad with him he still won't win anything since the problem lies with Sarri and not necessarily the player. If this guy has Xavi/Xabi Alonso/Modric to play for CDM he is still gonna play Jorginho at that position.

What's more worse with this manager is he doesn't care. He won't care if Chelsea win or lose since he is just working. He is what you see in everyday life. The definition of office worker. He cared for himself not for the club. You can see with how he said he doesn't know about London Derby, how he can just laugh his ass off even when Chelsea draw or lose. He let his player keep doing the same mistake every match, he should go and talk with his player and told the player what he needs to fix. He doesn't create tactic or do research to defeat opponet team. If this guy came during time where Abramovic is still passionate about the club he would have gone by this time.

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post Jan 9 2019, 03:47 PM

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Yes surely it's a great idea to get more player that play or once played at Serie A when the only player from Serie A that flourish are Rudiger, Salah and Allison and 3 of them come from Roma with justifiable price while other are just overpriced and overrated player. Yes should get more player from Serie A who is slow and not effective and keep playing his kayaball or curryball or whatever people call it that never won anything.

This is why you need a technical director and a world class scout instead of just keep buying mediocore player.
This season pay 50m for higuain and another 50m for cavani next season and more 50m for another 32 year old striker for another season instead of 100m for Icardi. Or is it actually Chelsea wait for Icardi to turn 32 and finally make a bid for 50m.

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post Jan 9 2019, 10:15 PM

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QUOTE(zoidx_chung @ Jan 9 2019, 09:53 PM)
Chelsea want £45m Elseid Hysaj in January window Lazio are in advanced talks with Chelsea over signing Davide Zappacosta on loan in view of a permanent transfer in the summer (ES)
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Another Napoli player. If Sarri want to carry the whole Napoli squad to Chelsea he should just stay at Napoli. If Napoli ain't winning trophy at Serie A, it is more impossible for them to win in EPL.
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post Jan 15 2019, 07:18 AM

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QUOTE(zoidx_chung @ Jan 15 2019, 01:39 AM)
Marcos Alonso: Of the 198 players to attempt 50 or more crosses, Alonso has the worst cross accuracy (9.9%) in Europe's top five leagues this season

Still no enough to start Emerson?
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Ya never drop Alonso, later if Emerson leave, read same script like Jorginho Fabregas case. This old fart is really a big whiner, loser, bottler, hypocrite and useless trophy dodger with no brain for football. Should have stayed a banker.

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post Jan 15 2019, 01:03 PM

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QUOTE(zoidx_chung @ Jan 15 2019, 12:36 PM)
he mean back up for jorginho is important... not fab  devil.gif
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It's not like Jorginho will get injured looking at how he play. He is a scaredy cat the same as mikel and mikel has never got injured. Except Jorginho is more lazy.
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post Jan 16 2019, 01:10 PM

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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Jan 16 2019, 10:46 AM)
Ayam tencion coz he formation 433 directly make essential squad player like:

Moses, Drinkwater, Zappacosta, Christensen, RLC not being properly utilized
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I'm more tension that manager is straightminded person with only one way of thinking. Hypocricy is another. One more is he kaki spin more than politician. Never seen a manager that have never won any trophy got lauded like this guy, even his playstyle also got lauded as attractive, even got a specialized name too while the only thing he got in his career is 'we put pressure on Juventus' trophy like Spurs did before. Both this guy and Spurs should be together since both are bottler anyway.

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post Jan 16 2019, 04:57 PM

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QUOTE(lyc1982 @ Jan 16 2019, 04:39 PM)
not really...

our nemesis is chelsea own players mentality
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And if the player mentality is their enemy, they wouldn't have become a league champion twice. Player mentality lies on the manager, manager do things right player motivation up. Manager buat benda bodoh player motivation down. Right now their motivation is down because manager does bodoh thing.

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