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post Oct 19 2018, 12:37 PM

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QUOTE(tomastan4134 @ Oct 19 2018, 12:24 PM)
noticed 87U is 4 lan port.

is there a specific lan port for unifi IPTV?  coz  there got 8 lan ports. 

normal asus router  will specify lan 4 - unifi IPTV.

please help?
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I think even for this still Port4
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post Jun 25 2019, 02:54 PM

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QUOTE(Gaza @ Jun 25 2019, 02:38 PM)
Hi

I'm on Unifi 800 mbps, currently using stock TP Link C1200 router but Wifi does not reach some areas of my house even on 2.4G.
Thinking of upgrading to TP Link C3150. Is this the best value for its price range around or are there other routers i should consider? Budget <1k

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If you look at this comparison the reviewer gave better rating on Asus RT-AC68U.

https://www.cnet.com/reviews/tp-link-archer...-router-review/

I use Asus AC5300 and it has no problem on any corner of my 2 storey house. Can get at least around 200Mbps connection even on 5GHz if I remember it right. Use to be much higher price but now I check it is now within your budget.

You can use other Asus and if not that good can add another Asus to configure as mesh network. I know Asus can do by upgrading firmware from Asus but not sure if others have offer this capability yet.

https://iprice.my/compare/asus-rt-ac5300/

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post Aug 30 2019, 11:07 AM

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QUOTE(blacktubi @ Aug 30 2019, 11:02 AM)
RT-AX92U will definitely be faster as it is Tri-Band and it uses Wireless AX as backhaul.

But the price is much higher as well.
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I think you cannot simply say it is faster just because it is a tri-band. Devices connected to the router most likely connect to either one of the band link, unless your device can bind channel from two or more transmission channel biggrin.gif
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post Aug 30 2019, 11:33 AM

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QUOTE(blacktubi @ Aug 30 2019, 11:21 AM)
I am comparing a Tri-Band mesh WiFi against a Dual-Band mesh WiFi.  A Tri-Band mesh WiFi system will be faster as the backhaul bandwidth is not shared. Yes, the difference in a router will be negligible but it is rather significant in a mesh WiFi system.

In a dual-band mesh WiFi system, the existing band will be reused resulting in halved the bandwidth.

Eg: Take the TP-Link Deco M5 for example as it is easier to explain. It is AC1300 867Mbps + 400Mbps.
The peak capacity of the second node is left up to 433Mbps due to halved bandwidth as it is shared with the backhaul. After considering interference, it will be around 250Mbps peak. wink.gif

The Deco M9 Plus is AC2200 867Mbps + 867Mbps + 400mbps.
With Tri-Band will always able to deliver 867Mbps peak backhaul capacity as the existing radio is not shared for the backhaul connection. Resulting in 867Mbps peak capacity. After considering interference, it will be around 500Mbps on second node.

Back to the RT-AC86U twin pack. 5Ghz is up to 2167Mbps
On the second node, the peak capacity will be 1083.5Mbps.

On RT-AX92U twin pack. 5Ghz is up to 4804Mbps if you use the full 160Mhz Wireless AX.
On the second node, the peak capacity is 2404Mbps.

While these are just specs, the real world performance can only be displayed in testing and I tested all 4 models I mentioned above. wink.gif
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Backhauling using wireless looks nice to most people since you do not have to pull cable but the link speed gets smaller as distance go further, just like how fast your connection speed drops between your laptop to wireless AP. So, this is one of the reason the wireless mesh network can be slow. Putting each node closer to each others contradicts to the idea of having wide coverage with mesh. So, probably cable to each node still best choice for me laugh.gif
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post Nov 27 2019, 05:30 PM

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QUOTE(GTBlackIce @ Nov 27 2019, 05:01 PM)
Hi Sifus,

Planning to upgrade my old router since my unifi had been turbo'ed to 800mbps.

House type: Townhouse
Size of house: 1,200sqf / 1 floor
Features required: Antivirus & VPN
Number of devices connected to WiFi: 5~10 for now
Internet Speed: Unifi 800Mbps
Budget: <RM1k

Been looking at blacktubi's recommended routers, e.g. TP Link's C4000 & C5400 as well as Asus AC88U. Any recommendation on which should I go for... or should I wait for the AX versions to be out before changing?

Hope to receive some advice... thanks in advance!
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I would just forget about AX version. Probably non of your device support the modulation and probably devices that support the AX speed are scarce as of now.

Consumer product changes so fast now that you do not need to worry for too long ahead I guess. Since the AX is released in the market, the non-AX price would drop. That is good news. Many probably would suggest mesh but if you want to go mesh in one shot, it would be high investment. I'm probably behind but the many Asus can be converted to mesh combining many models.

Anyway, I was thinking the same and bought the GT-AC5300, thinking of cheaper Asus to mesh my network. Surprisingly, that 1 unit already cover the whole house with no problem. Located at the main hall, the throughput can still go to 200Mbps in a closed bedroom at a very end corner on 1st floor.

I don't know the current price but the RT-AC5300 is probably just above 1k. The good thing about tri-band (or 2 bands) is that you can segregate which device on which band. That would distribute load and reduce latency I believe.

BTW, my house is around 3000 sqft.
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post Jun 18 2020, 05:32 PM

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QUOTE(jihia @ Jun 14 2020, 01:22 PM)
House type: condo
Size of house: 1400sqft
Features required: 3 brick walls to penetrate, best if can get 5G
Number of devices connected to WiFi: up to 4 devices
Internet Speed:500mbps
Budget: as long it works

Looking at RT-AX56U, RT-AC68U, C2300, not sure which has better wall penetration. Thanks for the advise from sifu.
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Mine
House size 3000sgft. Two storey Semi-D
Internet Speed: 500Mbps

Router located in living hall near to wall that separate the car porch, which is front house wall. Tested using phone in bedroom on 1st floor with door closed leaning to the far most wall at the back of the house and still get around 200Mbps on 5GHz. Phone defaulted to 5GHz.

Standing next to the router get 460Mbps or more when line is not busy.

Router is Asus RT-AC5300

In the beginning I thought need mesh, so I go for Asus since can combine with other Asus model later, but obviously not required.
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post Jun 18 2020, 05:36 PM

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QUOTE(goliath @ Jun 18 2020, 05:20 PM)
Would like to get some feedback on wifi range extender.

I am currently using ASUS wifi router and planning to get a wifi range extender. Will there be an issue/ downside if the wifi range extender is of different brand?
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Different brand no issue, but extender add another link hop thus basically twice response time.

How many users/devices in house concurrently expected?
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post Jun 18 2020, 08:32 PM

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QUOTE(goliath @ Jun 18 2020, 05:43 PM)
Not more than 5.
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I think it should be fine for 5 users. Will not affect performance. The repeater speed at most is only the max speed it is connected to the main router though. biggrin.gif
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post Jul 2 2020, 05:15 PM

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QUOTE(blrpdp @ Jul 2 2020, 04:55 PM)
I recently upgraded to 100Mbps under Maxis Fibre/Astro IPTV internet. Before upgrade, I’ve been using the RT-AC1300UHP router. Works wonders.

I’m living with my family in a (roughly 2500sqft) double storey house. The living room close to entrance is however considered as a dead/blind spot. I would like to seek suggestions on upgrading the router for future proofing purposes and most importantly with wider range, preferably of the same ASUS brand with any budget.

Could anyone suggest me a good one without compromising the 5Ghz band as well? Thank you.
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If it works then why bother upgrading? Router evolve pretty quick, so no point looking for future proof smile.gif The price will drop pretty fast.

Stay with Asus thus can create mesh with mixed models. I'm using GT-AC5300 and coverage is good for whole house. Like you hall is entrance of the house but at far end wall upstairs in bedroom still get around 200Mbps with no problem which I thought need mesh initially. My house is 3000sqft.
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post Jul 9 2020, 02:31 PM

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QUOTE(FusionXY @ Jul 9 2020, 02:22 PM)
Can you check whether the AX20 supports Access Point mode or not.
If yes, then connect via WAN Port then to existing router LAN Port 1.
Or LAN 1 Port to LAN 1 Port.

Thanks.
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Are you sure the voice from WAN would be carried over through Ethernet to router with RJ-11 port?

I think the RJ-11 voice is processed through WAN port to RJ-11 only. You cannot put that box anywhere in LAN and expected to work like it is from WAN.
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post Jul 9 2020, 02:34 PM

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QUOTE(vignaroli @ Jul 9 2020, 09:00 AM)
yeah...my office stock router dlink dir-850l , so i deemed changing the router to tp link ax10 will improve the wifi speed at least but to my surprise it getting worse than the dlink dir-850l. not sure what is the reason behind. i put back to my home can easily run full speed 300mbps wifi for my 300mbps fibre plan
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Are you sure you are using same channel and same channel bandwidth? If you put to widest channel bandwidth for maximum speed, it will not necessarily be faster since you might have interference. It could be from nearby WiFi or someone hotspot in office laugh.gif
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QUOTE(NelsonDone @ Jul 9 2020, 02:32 PM)
Just upgraded from stock router to the AX20.
Wifi speed is the same as the old one, only getting between 300-400mbps on my 500mbps plan. Even on ethernet also the same.
I thought it is the old router that I can't get to full speed so dunno what's the bottleneck.
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The broadband service is best effort. Network congestion on service providers most likely the bottleneck. Get around 400Mbps is consider good already smile.gif
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post Jul 9 2020, 02:38 PM

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QUOTE(FusionXY @ Jul 9 2020, 02:36 PM)
I'm sorry that you got confused here.  sweat.gif  sweat.gif
What I meant is.

Maxis router remain --> Connect VOIP to the original stock Maxis Router --> Connect from LAN 1 Port of the router to the new router. Like create an access point.

The Maxis router disable the Wi-Fi.

Thanks.
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OK. I was imagining the other way around. This would work wink.gif
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post Jul 9 2020, 03:02 PM

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QUOTE(NelsonDone @ Jul 9 2020, 02:53 PM)
Yeah I understand that it's on best effort basis but I'm just kinda expecting more. Not to mention most of the time +-300mbps is the max and 400mbps is extremely rare.
I'm suspecting it is the connection between router and btu that causing the bottleneck although it's CAT5E cable. Maybe I should try and see whether using CAT6 or higher would improves it or not.
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I doubt it will improve anything. It is just your area backbone bottleneck I believe.

Try to check at different time. I think normally for housing area, the speed is faster during working hour. At night slow. If you can see the difference in performance, then it is for sure not the cable problem smile.gif
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QUOTE(xiiaoisaac @ Jul 25 2020, 12:00 PM)
Im looking for a router. Currently using Unifi 800Mbps. Current router is TP link  AC1200. Everytime check speedtest using pc/landcable oni around 500Mbps. Any recommendation on router?
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If you run speedtest using LAN cable also 500Mbps, then change router will not help either biggrin.gif
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post Nov 2 2020, 04:46 PM

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QUOTE(wcpon @ Nov 2 2020, 04:12 PM)
AX56U only 2 antenna & AX20 have 4 antenna..
In terms of WiFi coverage range, which one is better?
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It depends on what the antennas are configured for. With MIMO, it can be used to handle multiple transmission at the same time. It also can be used as spatial multiplexing to increase throughput. It also can be used as diversity to improve link quality and reliability.

So, it is hard to say unless specified by manufacturer. TP Link said Multiple antennas form a signal-boosting array to cover more directions and large areas. So, it is more on better coverage by providing diversity I guess.

Asus even with 2 antennas has same throughput compare to TP 4 antenna because both are using the OFDM technique for multiple transmissions.

However I think the Asus uses Quad core processor compare to Tri-Core on TP. So, generally, the processing power is more on the Asus
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QUOTE(blacktubi @ Nov 2 2020, 04:54 PM)
Archer AX20 is using the same Broadcom 1.5Ghz Quad-Core CPU as RT-AX56U.

The Archer AX10 and ASUS RT-AX3000 uses the triple-core CPU from Broadcom.
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I see.

Looks to me based on What I see, the TP is better in wireless performance. However, spec is just theory, but wireless performance is more on actual measurement. smile.gif
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QUOTE(boss82 @ May 5 2021, 02:21 PM)
if change new router can make wifi 2.4ghz support 100mbps ?

bacause now the wifi 2.4ghz maximum speed lock at 30mbps only
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2.4GHz router locked at 30Mbps? Why?

The 2.4GHz WiFi can go as high as probably 1Gbps with current technology. Many people look at router if speed slow but your connection speed can only be as fast as your device. If you phone or PC can support lower speed, then faster router also no use.
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QUOTE(ben3003 @ Jun 10 2021, 08:56 AM)
wanna check, does the TP-Link OneMesh system half the bandwidth available like wat normal range extender does?

and guys how do you normally test ur local wifi speed? i mean the communication between router and PC. cos my line 100mbps only, max also can test 100mbps, but i wanna test like using Plex media player for my TV, which requires much higher bitrate.
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In general you do not need to test the network speed for home since it is not busy place. Network speed it to test the traffic in network.

When you device do handshake signal with AP or your wireless router, the connection is established at certain speed due to signal condition due to interference or distance. I think you can see what is the establish speed on the phone by pressing on WiFI icon or use apps. I'm sure many apps out there can show connection speed. No matter if your router can connect at 500Mbps or not, your speed will max at the establish speed biggrin.gif

For mesh router, it is full capable speed. The reason for reduced bandwidth is just because you use half of the band as connection to the other mesh unit. So, only the other half is available for traffic to your device.

If you use LAN cable from one mech unit to the other mesh unit, then each mesh unit will have full bandwidth to communicate with devices.

For range extender, it is not really half the bandwidth but more like half the speed. Say your router takes 1s to extender and from extender 1s to your device. Then total time is 2s. If you have connection from router to your device, then you only need 1s. So, it is half the speed, but it is like half the bandwidth too smile.gif
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QUOTE(Corrupted Spirits @ Jun 14 2021, 08:10 PM)
I thought it would be OK for a global set, was expecting 2-3 signal bars, mana tau 🤦‍♂️

Looks like I need to get a TP Link AX20 then. Would the TP Link AX20 wifi signal coverage able to cover a double storey terrace?
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For those who like to buy China one, it is okay to buy if the model is designed for designated country but not for domestic one. This is what blacktubi meant

https://w.wol.ph/2015/08/28/maximum-wifi-tr...-power-country/

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