Hi,

I would like to check is there anyone have recovered from mental issue with the help of psychologist?

Please let me know if there is any.

Thank You

i heard there is. but if ur the hard headed person, which you will not listen to the psychologist, then that's a different story.

Go first.....check whether you insurance will cover it.

actually i am consulting one and i dont feel any better from her. i not sure she is able to help or not or i am just being hard headed. visited her like over 10 times i guess i don't really feel a lot impact from her.

insurance will not cover for mentally illness, unless you need to overnight in the hospital.

btw any recommendation?

https://www.themindfaculty.com/

is it good here? i have checked with them and per session is quite high haha...

*premium* center.... lol

try to go for religious based ones...

http://family.org.my/

limited services, christian based one...



i think this is another premium one;

https://www.thegoldenspace.com.my/

what do you mean by limited services?

i went to golden space it is really pricy. It helps, but not fully relieve on my case.

click their website and see...

yea, somethings takes time... you taking the first step is already a big leap...

my package only comes with 2 session. i have done all the session which they provide. the remaining is just couching session.

there's no such thing as package lor... if one is sick, you continue treatment till you recover...

haha ya lar... they make it as package mah, but i am looking for other better solution currently. it is quite pricy there.

have you tried gov ones? or ngo? are you on any medication?

nope didn't try government, but tried counselor and psychologist. visited psychiatrist as well, but not taking any medication at the moment.

worth giving gomen a try.... especially since you have been through others already

any different from the private one?

cant comment but would be a good choice if budget is tight... should be good enough since you have gone through those at private centers

i have went to the private one... doesnt seems helping...

1 might not work... dont just because of 1 didnt work you assume all wont work... keep trying until you're better... your mind must be open too... if you keep having -ve thoughts about healing then it wont work... it is hard especially when you're facing depression/anxiety but end of the day, nobody can help you but yourself... others can only facilitate the healing process and if brain not so good, maybe prescribe drugs but the steps have to be taken by oneself

yeah i agree with what you are saying... been trying a lot of them, psychologist, psychiatrist, therapist, spiritual healing, gods. My mind is open, but i keep doubting myself even today i went to the therapist he also said i keep doubting whether it works on me or not etc.

I feel sad and helpless and why i keep doubting myself when that might be something which will work on me.

does it run in the family? because for my friend's case it does... have you been prescribed any drugs yet?

Yeah I being given, but I didn’t take any and yes my family do have some history.

wat meds were you given? why refuse to take?

citolopram and loxapine i think... coz i heard that medication do not help to solve the problem and it will haywire your body function.

damn... heard from where? i hope is not hearsay from your friends...

i dont want to claim i am professionally trained or an expert but based on my research n experience, this is what i would like to share;

these drugs are not for long term and only prescribed under doc's supervision... meaning after every semester you have to return for a review... it gives temporary relief while trying to solve the underlying problem with other methods

there're people on long term too... these are for people that suffers from disorders due to genetics aka family.. cant be helped, as there's unbalanced in the brain and body be it hormones or i dunno... some other people need medication from permanent disabilities like war injury... etc etc

so i think it is best we think positively and follow doc's advise... also these drugs takes a long time to come into effect, one missed dosage or sudden stop will render its properties useless

i do not know what research you have done. i done my own research as well.. i recently met a person who recover and he said that the dosage keep increasing due to body starts to adapting the medicine. I also heard many people said the same thing.

I also heard that some people took medication and the body stops producing the necessity hormones or things which needed in body because the medication has done the job which the body should.

and of course I do not want to take long term as well, but I am considering to take it as I have tried many things and it is not working.

and recently I also heard few of my relatives got recover by taking medication.

I have met quite a few people who having the similar issue recently and I am really grateful with their support.

yes, the body will build tolerance... that's why it is important to continue seeing the psychiatrist for new recommendation... constant monitoring is needed

not really... drugs are to complement/to treat unbalanced chemicals/hormones... it does not replace...

if doc say long term, you have to take long term just like diabetes/high cholesterol drugs... usually these are for problems caused by genetics... that's why reviews and monitoring is needed... not just blind pill popping

yea... friends and family are the best... so are professional help... but most important is still oneself

you sounds like you have experience in this field... you had experience something like this before or you are psychiatrist? or you pursuing in this field?

told you am not an expert... am someone suffering from severe anxiety due to some events that happened recently... so i did some research myself... i also speak a lot to my doc friends too, half my class in high school are docs / drug pushers...

i think the world can be a better place by helping others... especially in an area that's very misunderstood in this region... mental health... i want to promote awareness

by helping others i hope i can built some karma to heal myself

i am sorry i have forgotten. sorry to hear that you have been through this in such young age. actually i am looking ways to cure on this for permanently without taking medicine, but still i am looking and mostly i hear people say religious are the only way to fully cure from it.

lol.. how do you know am young? well, i dont see any harm taking meds if you're under a doc's supervision... nah, religion do help but will not cure... look up cognitive behavioral therapy... most religion teaches you to worry less on your problems and surrender yourself to god, god>all, including problems... but the problem doesnt go away... the problems are still there...

you said you are in high school just now. i do not know as i have done my research on medication and i heard this and that from people who suffer from mental illness and i do believe medication will not cure like what you said it just help you to stabilize, because the root problem still there.

I have tried CBT and I saw online many people said the success rate is very high etc, but i have went like around 10+ times and spent thousand plus and doesn't feel any different. Was quite disappointed wasted so many session and money but don't benefit anything.

I do not know how you think about religion, but I have met few different people who they said they recover from it. All of them are buddhist. Is not about worry less on surrender they said. Is you need to understand the religion itself.

What they told me is believe in the buddhist teaching. The meaning of it, why is the suffering and many many teaching about living. I have met 3 of them which they said they have been into it and recovered by understanding the buddhist teaching and they also do meditation which they said it is really really helpful where it can help you to separate your thoughts and feeling and makes you more calm and easy.

I have also went and tried it, I found out that I could not accept the buddhist teaching and end up I got into even worst condition. Now I do not know how to fix myself. My mind is like all haywired with negativity with many fear and worries. I do not want to take medication as well if possible, but due to worsen condition. I am considering getting medication.

That is why I am posting here and hoping to really get someone who can help me in this, but sadly I don't see any feedback from other forumers.

huh... no mention am in high school... well, not to say it wont cure... it will help with treatment but i believe it needs to combo with other things as well... not just drugs

hmm, was told not many expert in this region, cbt is something can say quite new..

i know all religions although am a free thinker... you can try if it helps, am not saying dont... am also just picking up meditation and it helps a lot... but you dont have to join the religion to meditate

most important is you must have a little faith and be less pessimistic on the treatment.. be more open, listen to professionals..

oh maybe i seen it wrongly. yes i do agree with you that the medication need something else to cure instead on relying on medication.

i never seen anyone recover with help of CBT currently. Actually CBT has been existed for quite some time in overseas.

Oh actually I have been trying meditation for a month plus roughly range from 5 minute to 8 minutes and then go to max 10 minutes, but I don't feel big impact to me.

I do not know why, but I am starting rejecting to go deep study into religion and I do not know how much deep you understand about all the religion as well. I had 2 new friends recently which they go venture on all the religion. Hinduism, Islam, Buddhism and Christian. They not just briefly know about the surface, they really go deep into the bible, Al-Quran, the buddhism and hinduism teaching about life.

i do agree with you with this haha, but recently i went to some sort of therapy and i keep doubting. all therapist also said the same have to be more open, but still I very insist on medication.

just like medication, CBT cant stand alone as a cure... there's no straight cut answer as everyone is different... probably group therapy, Electroconvulsive Therapy (ECT), meditation/mindfulness, rehab... etc etc is needed as well... a mix and match

well, there're several levels or meditation from what i know... i have gone through the basic which is to clear the mind, did max 20 mins, helps with my anxiety for a while... the advance level is to face the problems in the mind but not get affected by it, this one am meeting a friend so she can teach me... the highest level involves manipulation of internal body functions, this one i have no idea yet

well, if religion can save you, go for it... for me, i pick elements of each religion to make sense of things... adopt good principles, ignore irrational ones...

it is very common for people suffering from depression/scizo to reject/doubt these treatment... even if it helps them... so i believe family and friends support is very much needed to push the patient to go if they see that it works... medication has a part to play, but it alone cant solve the underlying problem, it is there to treat symptoms and help with treatment... also controlled drugs need to be taken under supervision, cannot simply self medicate...

i wish you all the best and speedy recovery.. my case is not general anxiety disorder.. it is specific anxiety due to a few events and underlying problems... as soon as i fix those problems and my anxiety goes away i promise myself i will help create awareness and people that are currently suffering...

Oh I thought CBT can go alone, actually during my visit with my psychologist she mentioned that I need to go with medication, but I insist and end up got worst.

Did you take any medication at the moment?

About meditation. I am still not able to clear my mind before, but I just keep bring it back to my breathing before this. I have stopped doing meditation currently. I have also heard people saying that meditation can reach to a level that able to see the spiritual thing and it can helps to eliminate all the mental illness as I heard, but unfortunately I am not able to reach to that level.

You got this anxiety recently? Actually mine is quite some time and I really wanted to recover as soon as possible.

well, that's why it is best we listen to professionals and at the same time read online... be open to suggestions.. a lot of things are very common out there that have been properly research if we dont keep and open eye and mind, everything we do is based on assumption and hearsay

lorazepam... given long time ago for an earlier case... took some since there's left over... friend gave paxidorm for sleep, useless after 4 pills... i took atarax recently to help with sleep also... note that the latter 2 is very very mild sedative that's meant for something else

those SSRI drugs, anti-depressant, anti-anxiety, anti-psychotic drugs are all controlled... these are only given under supervision...

meditation to me helps for short term if you're doing the basic... for more advance level i have no idea...

yeaps... 2 months ago... specific... if yours is quite sometime yours might be general anxiety disorder, diff case... yours might be due to genetics or PTSD... mine is not so serious....

good to hear that you are not in serious stage, anyway i used to not that serious as well, so it's good that you still in early stage and get treatment early so it can recover early..

hopefully when my problem is solve the anxiety goes away... i dont have general anxiety

yeah i understand how that feels and i know you don't have general anxiety and you wish not to have it, because it is really suffering. I have been trying my very best changing my habit, trying new things, meeting new people, go for professional except for taking medication, go into religious, do meditation and yet it gone worst.

my brain is like very negative and very strong emotion to me currently. fear, anxious, worry, sadness all comes along.

yeaps.. i know how you feel... i think you have more than anxiety but depression as well... it is best to have a professional diagnosed you... be open, dont hide anything

depression and anxiety at the same time can lead to other problems... among others the shrinking of the brain and reduction in brain activity

besides those that need $$$, the one which works very for me is exercise (i jog 4-8km a day, spread across once or twice... i carry weights, do tabata, swim, calisthenics, rotate), wake up early and go to bed early, ideally 11pm-7am... at 7.15am i jog 30 mins... meditation too, 2 times a day, 10-20mins each

no caffeine after 11am, i take half pack...

Medications prescribed by doctors is part of the treatment and you should go along with it. However if you're not comfortable, seek a 2nd opinion through another medical professional because even doctors will have different opinion towards the same case.

However if after having seek say, 2nd and even 3rd opinion and all of them say the same thing - do follow their advice so that you'll see improvements of your condition.

Our emotions are also controlled by our hormones, so do get yourself checked to see if your thyroid level is normal.

Good to hear you're practicing a healthy lifestyle. Hope you'll be able to recover soon

depression and anxiety is confirmed by psychiatrist, but i didn't know that leaving it be will making it even worst. that is why after a year only i look for professional help, but sadly it doesnt help and making it even worst.

wow. what i done before is swimming everyday an hour a day, meditation 10 minute. started to sleep at 11-12pm wake up at 7. which i used to sleep at 1 or 2am before. even when i am having depression.

I totally stopped caffeine and alcohol. Recently I went to friends wedding dinner, saw so much of red wine and alcohol makes me want to drink so badly. Although i don't take much either last time. my condition got worst is because that day i just drink a cup of green tea latte because there is offer and got worst due to that.

Meds are definitely trial & error. It may work well for some, but lacking effects on others. So which is why patients must feedback to his/ her doctor periodically and the doctor must take note & monitor the results.

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i believe it will go away as soon as i solve the underlying problem... now just trying to cope with it.... my sleep is affected badly and i have become an extremely light sleeper... worse still sleeping with someone that's one of the cause of the problem

flexi, usually 9am start

yea, mental illness is like a crack, ignore and it will get worse gradually... actually it getting worse might not also due to treatment not working... as far as i know, mental illness have ups and downs... treatment might help shorten the down duration and severity of it but not enough to go all the way up... that's why long term multi-prong treatment is needed

good start... if mind is not health at least keep the body healthy... less problem

yea, must restrain until recover as these beverages have effect on the chemicals/hormones of the body or directly to the body itself...

same to me i am still trying to cope with it. I can sleep easily, but i woke up in the middle of the night few times and I feel dizzy easily.

sometimes i just wonder why this would happen to me as my life is okay before. I also have thoughts if this does not happen now it might happen in the future. My mind is definitely not healthy and very haywire. I have to keep my body healthy if body not healthy, my mind will go even worst.

solve one problem at a time... i have so far managed to keep my body healthy and fit... in fact the fittest in my entire life, 4 packs showing all in 2 months from a big fat tire, my fitness scores are among the top 90%... these past 2 days i managed my insomnia as well... one step at a time...

some good reading;

http://www.asiaone.com/health/selena-gomez...about-condition

Yeah i have heard that selena gomez had mental health issue and good to hear that you are progressing in some way. I am trying ways to progress as well, but so far i think i have minor progress without knowing what i have done.

it is different for everyone... we have our own journey... important part is stay positive and keep on healing...

I understand is different for everyone. Btw the video you posted. Is that you?

no, i have still not overcome my problem yet... so anxiety still exist... but my insomia seems to be under control

I don't know how to look for a good psychiatrist. I stopped going 6 years ago and I need it again now.

I have depression and anxiety for about 9 to 10 years and recently for the past 1 year I keep having suicidal thoughts and I keep thinking of dead scenes. Like, a car would crash to me, I would go to the top building and jump, I will chop my hand or slit my wrist (which I did and it scarred).

I'm feeling so lethargic every single day, I can sleep for 16 hours if I'm not working. And going to work is such a hassle, I feel demotivated and sick of everything in life.

Currently I am going to a lot of places, but I think for your case it can help.

1. Psychiatrist. Klinik Pakar John Tan. Located at Kuchai Lama. I think I do not need to google it for you. The queue is a lot you have to go early to see doctor early. I am still going there. I heard a lot people reviewing they had recovered after they take medication for a period of time.

2. The Golden Space. It is some sort of spiritual healing. It doesn't really help me, because my main issue now is not on depression and anxiety. A lot people did recover from there which had depression and anxiety. You can go and survey and talk to them on your condition and then decide whether you want to proceed.

I know it is not easy to go through all these things and I am still looking for help in any way. I hope this 2 can really release you from it. If there is anything which can do to recover I will definitely recommend you guys.

Thanks. I'll check out John Tan since I am working there...

Have you visited to the clinic?

Hello. I actually went to PPUM because it's cheaper. Been on medication for the past 1 month now. 😊😊😊

yeah it is cheaper on government hospital. how is everything so far?

google mr paul jambunathan - a clinical psychologist...maybe he can help you

So far so good. Been taking the meds on time and can see got improvement in my mood.

good to hear that.