Hi I need a programmer who can be experts in Java and c++

Hi blue_heaven,

I'm in digital marketing line.
To me, programming is where the future is.

Technology is the future and creating disruption in the market.
From fintech, block chain, online marketing, marketing automation, mobile development app etc...

All these related to programming. The only thing you want to do is to keep your knowledge and expertise on the high standard, be competent on what you do.

You'll see great journey not limited to career, but for business too.

Hope this gives you confidence moving forward.

Cheers!

if you really reading the lowyat salary thread.
can find out alot programmer reaching 10k before age 30.
but not much can reach 20k in 40 , unless become PM or CTO

Lol the guy post was 10 years ago and his last active date is 2008

No future or not depends on which stage you look at.

If you plan to become a programmer until age 40-50 then no future.

If you plan to become a programmer at the beginning of your career and take up greater responsibility then yes you might have future.

Programmers who just do only programming don’t have the future, especially in Malaysia. It’s very rare for them to get more than 15k. Of course you can still find someone getting 20k or even 30k by just writing source code but very rare. To be able to reach this height, more or less, you will have to involve in management task. Either people management or technical management like Solution Architect or Software Manager. At some point, you will have to change to do things more than just programming.

just a number of programmer is enjoying the salary while the rest is earning peanut and less than marketing executive inclusive high commission.

Haha. 15k for over 40-50 yo people. Quite in the bell curve right?

Yes... but only true for lousy programmer

probably he made the bucks and busy?

Is this really true?

Me and my colleague earn quite well (in Malaysia).

I earn 10k as a team lead (3.5 years experience) and my colleagues (some 2 years and some > 5 years) are also doing pretty well (well above 5-8k).

I'm pretty sure if you just know how to code you won't grow financially and knowledge wise. Add more verticals by expanding into other stuff like software architecture and devops or maybe even testing.

There are a lot of mediocre developers and it's quite easy to climb up the ladder if you really enjoy it and continuously strive to grow day to day.

My best advice for beginners is don't settle for huge corporations too early, you don't learn much that way.

Ease in with the small companies get a feel for building something from scratch. Once you are tired of that life then go for MNCs/Enterprise with your experience and leverage and enjoy a slow and easy life.

This post has been edited by lightonokira: Jan 28 2018, 05:27 PM

You are a rare case bro. Jobstreet close to 3 million Malaysian CVs, expected as 10k and max experience not more than 4 years one is about 3000 people. 0.1% bro.

This post is made in 2007
nowadays the lower level programmers earn more than average pay of other jobs like graphic designers
the employees are in power for now

now is 2019, more than ten years after the OP, things have changed

Now is 2025

Huge potential to be from a computer science / programmer-based background regardless of AI intervention and the likes...

You get to ensure:
- No bullshitting happening to you by outsourced vendors.
- Able to build and automate systems yourself.
- Lessen external costs by service subscription / chatbot / API integration / web hosting / crm / big data / cybersecurity / digital marketing / etc.
- Able to audit / minify / rewrite codes to make things efficient.
- Able to reduce JavaScript use in favour of Search Engines...
- The list goes on...

Anyone telling otherwise is a complete fib with no technical know-how skillset.

In other words, you have to be quite an expert.

Being a beginner and mediocre is a complete wipeout!

Like any profession, you have to be a master of the craft...

Any average bloke is bound for the chopping board...

Whats the salary of a SW Programmer in SG? SGD20k above? As a single guy, how much can I earn?

Lego hobby can keep you from balding?