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post Aug 31 2018, 04:47 PM, updated 5y ago

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While 4K TV is getting more into mainstream, 4K IP Camera for CCTV is just getting warm up.
This Hikvision 8 Megapixel IP camera is capable of capturing 4K video at 25 FPS with H.265 support.

Note: This is CN set.

Product page: http://www1.hikvision.com/cn/prgs_1767_i19703.html

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Specification (Translated):
Image Sensor:1/2" Progressive Scan CMOS
Max. Image Resolution:3840 x 2160
Frame Rate (Mainstream):50 Hz: 25 fps (3840 x 2160, 3072 x 1728, 2560 x 1440, 1920 x 1080, 1280 x 720); 60 Hz: 20 fps (3840 x 2160), 30 fps (3072 x 1728, 2560 x 1440, 1920 x 1080, 1280 x 720)
Frame Rate (Sub Stream):50 Hz: 25 fps (640 x 480, 640 x 360, 320 x 240); 60 Hz: 30 fps (640 x 480, 640 x 360, 320 x 240)
Adjustment Range:Pan: 0° ~ 355°, Tilt: 0° ~ 75°, Rotate: 0° ~ 355°
Lens:4mm, Horizontal FOV: 79°, (2.8mm (102°), 6mm (51°), 8mm (38°) Selectable)
Shutter time:1/3 s to 1/100,000 s
Day/Night Switch:Day/Night/Auto/Schedule
Min. Illumination:0.002 Lux @ (F1.2. AGC ON), 0 Lux with IR
Wide Dynamic Range:120 dB
Digital noise reduction:3D DNR
Video Compression:Mainstream: H.265/H.264; Sub Stream: H.265/H.264/MJPEG
H.265 Encoding Type:Main Profile
H.264 Encoding Type:Main Profile/High Profile
Video bit rate:32Kbps~16Mbps
Audio Compression:G.711/G.722.1/G.726/MP2L2/PCM/AAC
Audio Bitrate:64 Kbps(G.711)/16 Kbps(G.722.1)/16 Kbps (G.726)/32-192 Kbps(MP2L2)/16-64 Kbps(AAC)
Communication Interface:1 RJ45 10M / 100M Ethernet Interface
Audio Interface:1 Audio Input (Line In), 1 Audio Output (Line Out)
Protocols:TCP/IP, ICMP, HTTP, HTTPS, FTP, DHCP, DNS, DDNS, RTP, RTSP, RTCP, PPPoE, NTP, UPnP, SMTP, SNMP, IGMP, 802.1X, QoS, IPv6, UDP, Bonjour
System Compatibility:ONVIF (PROFILE S, PROFILE G), ISAPI, GB28181, Ehome
Storage Method:Supports Micro SD/SDHC/SDXC Card (128G), Offline Local Storage, NAS(NFS, SMB/CIFS?
Power Supply:12 VDC ± 25%, PoE (802.3af, class 3)
Weather Proof:IP67
IR Range:Up to 30m
Operating Conditions:-30 °C to 50 °C (-22 °F to 122 °F), humidity: 95% or less (non-condensing)
Power Consumption (Non-POE):8.5 W max
Power Consumption (POE):10 W max
Weight (Camera Only):530 g
Weight (With package):750 g
Dimensions:Φ130 × 105.6 mm

Original Specification in Chinese:
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Product Package Design and Art:

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The Unboxed

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User manual (In CN language)

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Camera Input and Output

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This IP camera has following input and output:
1. POE capable LAN port
2. One audio input and one audio output
3. One alarm input and one alarm output
4. 12V DC Input

Video Sample and Comparison

In this video sample comparison, the camera in review are compared to this following Hikvision 4MP IP Camera: DS-2CD3345F-IS

Scenario 1: Low Lighting

Video Sample from IP Camera in review:


Video Sample from Hikvision 4MP IP Camera:



Scenario 2: Medium Lighting

Video Sample from IP Camera in review:


Video Sample from Hikvision 4MP IP Camera:



Scenario 3: Good Lighting

Video Sample from IP Camera in review:


Video Sample from Hikvision 4MP IP Camera:



Captured Image Sample and Comparison

Scenario 1: Low Lighting

Captured Image Sample from IP Camera in review:
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Captured Image Sample from Hikvision 4MP IP Camera:
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Scenario 2: Medium Lighting

Captured Image Sample from IP Camera in review:
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Captured Image Sample from Hikvision 4MP IP Camera:
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Scenario 3: Good Lighting

Captured Image Sample from IP Camera in review:
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Captured Image Sample from Hikvision 4MP IP Camera:
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Summary:
- This Hikvision 8MP IP Camera is able to capture decent amount of light as compared to the 4MP IP Camera.
- It mades this 8MP camera more favourable to be use in dark environment.
- Alongside with the ability to capture greater amount of details due to more megapixel, this camera has wide dynamic range function to further balance the overall video with both overexposure and underexposure area.
- Without any recorder unit needed, this IP camera is able to work independently as recording can be done by inserting microSD card into the camera.
- The downside of this 8MP IP Camera is lacking of internal microphone, but you can connect external microphone to the audio input to have audio support alongside with your video recording.
- Smart H.265 function embedded in this IP camera reduce video file size and streaming bandwidth even more.
- This IP camera runs warm during operation, but the temperature won't hurt you when you hold it.
- POE power consumption while operating and without infrared turned on, is about 5.1W.

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post Aug 31 2018, 04:49 PM

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The Tear-down


Tear-down for this Hikvision IP camera is rather easy, by unscrewing the 3 Philips screws on the camera casing, you will be able to access the printed circuit board and the imaging unit of the camera.

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Once the camera unit is opened, aside from the printed circuit board, you will notice the huge ribbon connecting the imaging unit and the PCB.
You will also notice there is a dessicant pack, to absorb any moistures that is present inside the camera unit to prevent damage to the electronics inside.

On the left side of the semi-sphere, unscrew another 3 philips screws that secure the PCB, we will discover the electronics on the other side of the PCB.


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Larger chips and electronics can be observed, including the microSD card slot.
There is also a white colour soft cooling pad, which suggesting the electronics underneath potentially dissipating more heats than the others, you might already know what kind of chip is that.

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The brain of this Hikvision 8MP IP camera is "Ambarella S3L" SoC.

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On the right side of the semi-sphere, we can access the imaging unit of this camera once we unscrewed the 2 small Philips screws.


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Here is the imaging sensor and also the PCB it is sitting on, no suitable equipment to identify the make and the model of the sensor used.

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Adding Microphone to support sound recording

As this Hikvision 8MP IP camera does not come with an internal microphone, we can enable recording with sound by adding microphone using the audio input line.



Method 1: Adding External microphone

Adding external microphone is rather easy, here are the item you will need to add an external microphone:
1. External microphone unit for surveillance (Hikvision DS-2FP1021 used in this example)
2. DC power female to 2 male split cable
3. DC power female solder free adapter
4. POE Splitter with 48V to 12V converter (POE setup only)


Without POE setup

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With POE setup:

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Method 2: Adding Internal microphone

Adding an internal microphone requires soldering skills, but the end result does not alter the camera outlook much, and there will be no messy wires to deal with.
1. Miniature microphone (GK-1000 as example)
2. Soldering kit
3. Electrical drill


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12V DC power supply can be tap from the capacitor soldering point in this position, and the audio in wire is purple in colour.
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After drilling done, the glass layer might broken but it does not really matter, smooth out the drill to have beautiful finishing on the outside.

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Tighten or glue the microphone securely, and assemble the IP camera and you are done.

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If your microphone sensitivity can be adjust, you will have to adjust it before you assemble the camera.

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post Sep 11 2018, 06:49 AM

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QUOTE(idoblu @ Sep 11 2018, 06:28 AM)
Nice review bro 👍🏻
How much is it?
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Sellers at TB are selling around ¥ 497.70, or around RM 308 per camera at the moment excluding domestic and international shipping fee.
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post Sep 11 2018, 09:16 AM

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QUOTE(lawrencesha @ Sep 11 2018, 06:55 AM)
Why bother with 4K? You are going to need a crazy amount of storage space for video retention.
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Yes, I agree with you that 4K need huge amount of storage space especially when you want to keep the recording for longer period of time.
This IP camera has H.265 and also Smart H.265 support, which can further reduce the storage and bandwidth requirement for recording and streaming.

If one have the budget to put 4K camera for the whole house, the person should have no problem to install more storage for recording.
For me, I just purchase 2 units of them to play with it. biggrin.gif

From my observation, hard disk for surveillance usage is getting cheaper now.
For example WD 4TB Purple hard disk, I bought at around RM 680 two years ago, now cost only RM 430 per piece.

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QUOTE(idoblu @ Sep 11 2018, 07:56 AM)
Thanks
I dunno how these cameras work
Does this capture like continuously or only when it detects motion?
I’m looking for one that works something like xiaofang but with 4K quality
IP cam type
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I did a quick read your Xiaofang review thread.
Xiaofang is tiny and cheap, compare to this Hikvision IP Camera.

For motion detect, this Hikvision 8MP IP Camera works a little different than the Xiaofang.
In this Hikvision IP camera, you can come out with your own recording plan, choose motion detect (or continuous recording, event recording and etc...) to be recorded in the SDcard (if present), at any given time and day, as shown in the screenshot below.


Chinese interface:
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English interface (Google translated):
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Once you done setting your motion detect recording plan, you can select which area in the video and the trigger sensitivity that you would like to trigger motion detect, as shown below:

Chinese interface:
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English interface (Google translated):
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In addition, you can choose what to do when the motion detect trigger happened, for example sent an email, notify server, trigger alarm out, etc...

Chinese interface:
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English interface (Google translated):
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Edit to add possible methods to support sound recording.
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QUOTE(kc3wx5 @ Sep 16 2018, 10:15 AM)
Currently . I playing with a DS-2CD3T86FWDV2-I8s 4mm. Impressed with the 8M image. Thinking of getting DS-2CD3386FWDV2-IS to play with it.

I have a few questions :

1) is 2.8mm or 4mm better? Intend to place in at the car porch which is around 6 -7m from the house door.
2) How many IR Leds ?
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1) Choice of focal length (2.4mm or 4mm) is depending on the recording context or area of your interest. You will have to ask yourself is 2.4mm or 4mm more suitable for you, when you want to that area to be monitored. From where to where, in this area you would like to monitor. From your statement, you may want to place the camera near your house door, and want to monitor your car porch, which is 6 to 7 meters from your house door, in this case, 4mm might be more suitable. I am just giving my wild guess, without knowing your actual situation.

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2) There are two IR LEDs, which is places right below the camera lens.
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post Sep 16 2018, 11:42 AM

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QUOTE(kc3wx5 @ Sep 16 2018, 11:19 AM)
Thanks for the recommendation. I will buy one soon to play with it.

I also have a NVR DS-7808NB-K2/8P with 2 x 4TB WD purple HDD. Are you able to to access the NVR using web browser like Chrome , IE etc. After login from browser, it asked me to install some software but after installed, still unable to see the video. Now can only see it thru IVMS-4500 and IP Cam Viewer.
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I have an older model of NVR, DS-7808N-K2/8P, without the "B".
I am able to access the NVR using web browser, but strictly only on Internet Explorer, not even Edge.

Yes, you will have to install the software, and also enable and allow the Hikvision ActiveX object to run on Internet Explorer.


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Since you are on Windows, you can just install and use their iVMS-4200 client software.
With this software you don't have to deal with the browser mess, and don't have to login everytime.

Note: If you are using Chinese set, you can only use Chinese version of iVMS-4200.

iVMS-4200 V2.7.2.4:
https://www1.hikvision.com/cn/download_more_390.html


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QUOTE(Shaney @ Sep 17 2018, 12:01 PM)
How am I able to determine which set is international or China version?
Am looking for poe set with 16 cameras 4 or 5mp depending on budget.

Any difference between international and China version ?
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For China version, the product model will only be listed here: http://www1.hikvision.com/cn/index.html
For International version, the product model will only be listed here: https://www.hikvision.com/en

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QUOTE(Shaney @ Sep 19 2018, 03:08 AM)
Thanks.
But we still can use the hikvision China version worldwide right.
The only issue would be interface in mandarine?
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Once you have the China version on hand, you can use it anywhere.
And yes, the China version, all interface will be in Chinese.
Also, you cannot plugin China set camera to international set recorder, and, you cannot use English version of iVMS-4200 windows client to work with China set camera.
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QUOTE(Shaney @ Sep 19 2018, 06:15 AM)
Guess China hikvision is the way. Haha.
Got any recommended seller from taobao ? Or anywhere else
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Just get from the seller with reputation or with sales volume should be alright, this applies to most items in TB.
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QUOTE(kc3wx5 @ Oct 14 2018, 11:52 AM)
I have received the camera.

I have a question : I noticed that I can only set the resolution to 1920x1080. Whenever I set it to 3840x2160, it will drop to 640x 480. The image will be blurred.

Did you have this problem? or did i miss anything?

At 1920x1080
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Change to 3840x2160
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Image resolution become 640x480 after change to 3840x2160. It also changed from Smart265 to H.264
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What is your NVR model number?
Did your NVR nearly hit or hit he maximum incoming bandwidth?
You can check the incoming bandwidth utilization on your recorder but I can't remember which page it is.
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QUOTE(kc3wx5 @ Oct 14 2018, 02:56 PM)
My NVR model number : NVR DS-7808NB-K2/8P
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Ah, I think I know what might be the problem.
From your picture, looks like you are viewing multiple cameras at one go and you are checking the resolution and encoding on the multiple cameras screen.

Try switching to the screen which just viewing one camera, and then check the resolution and encoding again.

Here is an example from mine:

Screen viewing only single camera:
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Screen viewing multiple cameras:
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The reason why different resolution and encoding used when viewing multiple cameras is that, the actual recording will be impacted if viewing multiple camera at their recording settings.
Which is why sub-stream is used when viewing screen with multiple cameras, but recording will still be done using main-stream.

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QUOTE(kc3wx5 @ Oct 28 2018, 10:52 AM)
Hi, I have gotten the hikvision external microphone DS-2FP2020-A & POE Splitter
where did you get
2. DC power female to 2 male split cable
3. DC power female solder free adapter.
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Here is where I got them:

DC power female to 2 male split cable:
https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=537258700934
Or locally:
https://shopee.com.my/1-DC-Female-to-2-DC-M...59773.794672345


DC power female solder free adapter:
https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=18989203039
Or locally:
https://shopee.com.my/Solderless-2.1mm-Male...91591.737877541

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QUOTE(kc3wx5 @ Nov 18 2018, 11:33 AM)
Finally gotten the split cable and adapter. Follow your diagram and connect to the camera.

But no sound from live and playback video, do I need to set anything at the NVR or IVMS-4200?
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1) if your microphone sensitivity can be adjust, please do so on the microphone device

2) To support recording with sound, on the NVR, you will have to choose recording type as "Combined Type" or "复合流" in the channel configuration.

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3) I think iVMS-4200 has sound muted by default when live viewing and playback, you will have to manually unmute the sound.
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QUOTE(J_Vansen_S @ Feb 20 2019, 03:39 PM)
i need 3 outdoor cam & 1 indoor, realistically do we actually need 4k for home security, would it lag if i want to view it remotely(once or twice a day) via by phone since my internet link is only 20mb &  monthly quota of 350gb. 

hikvision official tmall site is selling Bundle 4 cameras + 1TB NVR for about 3754rmb which u can generally get it cheaper from other distributors on TB

Another thing that came up from my survey; hikvision is now pushing end users(non-commercial) ppl to use their sub-co Ezviz brand instead. Thoughts? A quick look at their site, Ezviz is selling somewhat like a smart home products kinda like Mi Home stuffs
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I am assuming that your house internet provider has symmetrical 20 Mbps on both upload and download.
20 Mbps should be sufficient to view 4K remotely with this camera.
You can adjust the video bitrate in the settings, this determine the remote viewing bandwidth.
For this camera, you can adjust video bitrate up to 16 Mbps.

For the app to remote viewing, the camera support sub-stream, which allows you to view the camera with reduced resolution, and hence reduced bandwidth.
On my side, the substream bandwidth does not goes more than 160 KB/s.

Depending on the network condition, remote viewing using substream usually won't lag.

If you remote viewing using full 4K resolution, for my case the bandwidth usage is around 1.3 MB/s, my video bitrate is set to 10 Mbps if not mistaken.

If you planning to get bundle, I would suggest you to exclude the hard disk, because the hard disk is prone to damage during shipping.
You can purchase hard disk locally and install yourself later on.
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QUOTE(J_Vansen_S @ Feb 21 2019, 05:28 PM)
Great! thanks for the info.
I have another question though, so you mentioned that if  we use China ver NVR we cannot mix it with international version hik camera is that correct?
But can still mix match dahua & other 3rd party cams?
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That's right, they won't work if the region of both camera and NVR do not match.
Since I never use 3rd party camera with Hikvision NVR before, so I can't comment much.
But from the manual and other info from their website, it looks like 3rd party cameras are supported.
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QUOTE(X_F@cT0R @ Mar 20 2019, 11:00 PM)
what is your size of file did you get for 24 hours recording if maxed the bitrate value?
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Let me try that and get back to you.
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QUOTE(X_F@cT0R @ Mar 20 2019, 11:00 PM)
what is your size of file did you get for 24 hours recording if maxed the bitrate value?
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QUOTE(alexander3133 @ Mar 21 2019, 07:45 AM)
Let me try that and get back to you.
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I already set this 8MP camera to its highest supported bitrate, which is 16 Mbit/s.
I will have to wait until the day after next day to post the result.

Before that, I probably can provide you a close estimate on how much the disk space will cost you for 16Mbit/s setting on 1 camera.

Screenshot below are all in Chinese due to this is a Chinese set.

Here is my setting I am using before switching to 16Mbit/s, which is 10Mbit/s:

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The number highlighted in yellow in the screenshot above is the "All-Day" recording file size, written 105.0 GB.
Which I believe this number is an estimate.


Note that the recording done in NVR is split in multiple files, as shown:

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When I choose to download the footage from 00:00:00 to 23:59:59, the size shown as 101.11 GB
From here you can see that 101.11GB is the actual size of 24 hours recording with my 10Mbit/s setting, versus the estimated size of 105.0 GB, which is not too off.

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Once I changed the bitrate to 16Mbit/s, here is the screenshot:

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The "All-Day" recording file size is now written as 168.0 GB.

From here you can roughly estimate the disk space required to store 16Mbit/s video for 24 hours recording should be roughly 168GB plus minus.

The actual file size of recording varies from one to another, depending on the context of the area of interest, even with same settings applied.


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