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post Aug 23 2018, 10:45 AM, updated 8y ago

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my living room is well-litted as i have huge glass windows beside the living room.

so i believe i need a bright tv.

saying a bright tv, which kind of panel is better? direct-lit or edge-lit panel?

knowing edge-lit tv mostly is friendly on price, and also lack of local dimming.

says we compare direct-lit and edge-lit panel, both without local dimming?
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post Aug 23 2018, 10:53 AM

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QUOTE(logitechmouse @ Aug 23 2018, 10:45 AM)
my living room is well-litted as i have huge glass windows beside the living room.

so i believe i need a bright tv.

saying a bright tv, which kind of panel is better? direct-lit or edge-lit panel?

knowing edge-lit tv mostly is friendly on price, and also lack of local dimming.

says we compare direct-lit and edge-lit panel, both without local dimming?
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you wanna compare the brightness?
basically direct-lit is better, but thicker as compare to edge-lit

if you see most high end TV in the market, are edge-lit to maintain the thin frame

however, with current tech and R&D trying to make both of them look similar, to me a normal consumer hardly can see the brightness difference
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post Aug 23 2018, 11:45 AM

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QUOTE(kyxxx @ Aug 23 2018, 10:53 AM)
you wanna compare the brightness?
basically direct-lit is better, but thicker as compare to edge-lit

however, with current tech and R&D trying to make both of them look similar, to me a normal consumer hardly can see the brightness difference
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Direct lit is not better , it is just one of the methods LED-LCD TVs used to light up their screen.


If the technology is done right , the edge lit TV will just be as good as the direct lit .
If you think edge lit sucks , think again . Here's a hint : Sony X9300E

You are right about the edge-lit being thinner than direct lit TVs .


The TV brightness is largely attributes to the availability of an adequate dimming system and power budget of the said TV.


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if you see most high end TV in the market, are edge-lit to maintain the thin frame


You mixed them up , most high end LED-LCD TVs on the market are direct lit , that's how they are able to implement full array Local dimming system into the TV which is usually more expensive . But not all direct lit TV has F.A.L.D , there are also lower budget direct-lit TVs such as the 2017's Samsung entry level MU6100.


Edge-lit TVs are often criticized due to their dimming system which is limited to controlling the LED backlights from the edge , causing a whole column of the screen to brighten up unnecessarily . There are exception to this , such as the X930E / X940E I mentioned above . And they definitely are not dimmer than the direct-lit counterparts , X930E still is one of the brightest consumer TV to date .


As a result , there is no absolute advantage between both technology . One is not definitively better than the other .
If you are looking for bright TVs , you should refer to the actual reviews instead of being obsessed with a tech where most people don't exactly understand the difference.

This post has been edited by Convael: Aug 23 2018, 11:55 AM
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post Aug 23 2018, 11:46 AM

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get oled !
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post Aug 23 2018, 11:58 AM

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QUOTE(Convael @ Aug 23 2018, 11:45 AM)
Direct lit is not better , it is just one of the methods LED-LCD TVs used to light up their screen.
If the technology is done right , the edge lit TV will just be as good as the direct lit .
If you think edge lit sucks , think again . Here's a hint : Sony X9300E

You are right about the edge-lit being thinner than direct lit TVs .
The TV brightness is largely attributes to the availability of an adequate dimming system and power budget of the said TV.
You mixed them up , most high end LED-LCD TVs on the market are direct lit , that's how they are able to implement full array Local dimming system into the TV which is usually more expensive . But not all direct lit TV has F.A.L.D , there are also lower budget direct-lit TVs such as the 2017's Samsung entry level MU6100.
Edge-lit TVs are often criticized due to their dimming system which is limited to controlling the LED backlights from the edge , causing a whole column of the screen to brighten up unnecessarily . There are exception to this , such as the X930E / X940E I mentioned above . And they definitely are not dimmer than the direct-lit counterparts , X930E still is one of the brightest consumer TV to date .
As a result , there is no absolute advantage between both technology . One is not definitively better than the other .
If you are looking for bright TVs , you should refer to the actual reviews  instead of being obsessed with a tech where most people don't exactly understand the difference.
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at my case, im narrowing down my tv selections between these 2
sharp ua6800x (va, edge lit)
sony x7500f (ips, direct lit)

im not able to compare them side by side, as no shops are putting them together. and reviews on these 2 tv are quite limited

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post Aug 23 2018, 11:58 AM

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QUOTE(naqib0307 @ Aug 23 2018, 11:46 AM)
get oled !
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post Aug 23 2018, 11:59 AM

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QUOTE(kyxxx @ Aug 23 2018, 10:53 AM)
you wanna compare the brightness?
basically direct-lit is better, but thicker as compare to edge-lit

if you see most high end TV in the market, are edge-lit to maintain the thin frame

however, with current tech and R&D trying to make both of them look similar, to me a normal consumer hardly can see the brightness difference
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the thickness of tv doesnt bother me much

the tv will not move around once i put it at the desired position
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post Aug 23 2018, 12:08 PM

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QUOTE(logitechmouse @ Aug 23 2018, 11:58 AM)
at my case, im narrowing down my tv selections between these 2
sharp ua6800x (va, edge lit)
sony x7500f (ips, direct lit)

im not able to compare them side by side, as no shops are putting them together. and reviews on these 2 tv are quite limited
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Unfortunately both of the TVs you mentioned have fairly limited brightness , they don't do very well vs strong glare from sunlights .


You have a few options , get a curtain or something to cover up the sunlights , or get a very bright TV ( which can be costly )
You will need something like a Q7FN ( 5-6k for 55 inches ) .

Or avoid watching TVs during the day ...

This post has been edited by Convael: Aug 23 2018, 12:14 PM
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post Aug 23 2018, 12:29 PM

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QUOTE(Convael @ Aug 23 2018, 12:08 PM)
Unfortunately both of the TVs you mentioned have fairly limited brightness , they don't do very well vs strong glare from sunlights  .
You have a few options , get a curtain or something to cover up the sunlights , or get a very bright TV  ( which can be costly )
You will need something like a Q7FN ( 5-6k for 55 inches ) .

Or avoid watching TVs during the day ...
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i have a layer of sheer and another layer of curtain. so the room will not too bright, hope it can helps

just wondering, among these 2 TVs, which will be brighter and give better PQ.

budget not allow higher end tv


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post Aug 23 2018, 12:41 PM

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QUOTE(Convael @ Aug 23 2018, 11:45 AM)
Direct lit is not better , it is just one of the methods LED-LCD TVs used to light up their screen.
If the technology is done right , the edge lit TV will just be as good as the direct lit .
If you think edge lit sucks , think again . Here's a hint : Sony X9300E
No worries, i dont think edge lit sucks, in fact to me i couldnt see the difference, however as you said, logically direct lit TV are easier to control the brightness, while for Edge Lit, with technology done right, it will be as good as direct lit

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You are right about the edge-lit being thinner than direct lit TVs .
The TV brightness is largely attributes to the availability of an adequate dimming system and power budget of the said TV.
i agree, in the end, the power budget and the adequate dimming system is the factor

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You mixed them up , most high end LED-LCD TVs on the market are direct lit , that's how they are able to implement full array Local dimming system into the TV which is usually more expensive . But not all direct lit TV has F.A.L.D , there are also lower budget direct-lit TVs such as the 2017's Samsung entry level MU6100.

and i'll correct my sentence, the high end TV which feature thin bezels as a marketing point (for example Sony Bravia AF8)



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post Aug 23 2018, 02:19 PM

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QUOTE(Matrix2.0 @ Aug 23 2018, 01:11 PM)
Regardless what panel, you will have to close your glass windows with  blinds if you want nice viewing from direcr bright a
Sunlight.

And thin panels is the way to go.
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is ips panel better for well litted room?

currently using LG ips, no idea how va will perform er
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post Aug 23 2018, 04:56 PM

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QUOTE(Matrix2.0 @ Aug 23 2018, 04:50 PM)
IPS is good for color reproduction. Best you see it yourself in the showroom. But if not too picky, ok lah.
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No.

IPS is only good for viewing angles, that's all.

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post Aug 23 2018, 07:15 PM

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If the brightness too strong and watching for few hours continuous. Is it eyes will feel very tired?
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post Aug 24 2018, 09:48 PM

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QUOTE(Matrix2.0 @ Aug 23 2018, 04:50 PM)
IPS is good for color reproduction. Best you see it yourself in the showroom. But if not too picky, ok lah.
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today able to compare 2 tv side by side

sony x7000f
samsung nu7100

the nu7100 is using VA panel, but the sony ips display seems more sharp and smooth. contrast also macam better. both playing the same demo.

but shop tells me samsung is better PQ

i cannot brain



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post Aug 24 2018, 09:50 PM

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QUOTE(Tech26 @ Aug 23 2018, 07:15 PM)
If the brightness too strong and watching for few hours continuous. Is it eyes will feel very tired?
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I guess my living room will bright. i dun hav the habit to watch tv in dark enviroment, just not used to it
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post Aug 24 2018, 09:50 PM

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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Aug 23 2018, 04:56 PM)
No.

IPS is only good for viewing angles, that's all.
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or becos simply ips is cheaper to produce?
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post Aug 25 2018, 08:38 PM

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QUOTE(Tech26 @ Aug 23 2018, 07:15 PM)
If the brightness too strong and watching for few hours continuous. Is it eyes will feel very tired?
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Even if a TV is very bright , doesn't mean the TV will stay at its peak brightness forever .
It simply means the TV can better control its brightness output to make bright scenes & picture highlight stand out in the picture .

Most TV also has an eyecare setting if you find the picture too bright , or you can turn down the brightness .



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QUOTE(logitechmouse @ Aug 24 2018, 09:50 PM)
or becos simply ips is cheaper to produce?
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I thought VA is cheaper. The reason VA exist because IPS too expensive to produce. That is the history of VA.
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post Aug 26 2018, 11:59 AM

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Direct lit should be the best choice or the safest/cheapest one

edge lit = old tech - need for "done it right"
Oled = Burn in
Qled > Oled, thinner, no burn in, expensive

 

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