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post Aug 24 2018, 02:48 PM

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Valuation wise the only stocks I see on stretch is US tech stocks.

Malaysia Market due to its cut back of project and average price of Crude oil, most people still has slightly bearish view on Malaysian stocks.

10 year treasury yield still have safe margin above Fed rate.

Honestly speaking I still think the unprecedented amount of QE since 09' to 13' still havent 100% fully reflect in stock market. The only one truly already reflected is in property market such as Hong kong and Sydney , Vancouver etc ( I know how crazy is the price went up especially these few places ).

For me I am betting there is one more bull coming (the most crazy bull run ever)....but with bearish view with a lot of trade war issue it probably takes another 1 -2 years before it comes.

Just my view la

PS: I am still holding 85% stocks now in personal porfolio 15% cash ( cash that for stocks investment exclude other purpose).

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post Aug 24 2018, 04:14 PM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Aug 24 2018, 04:07 PM)
US QE fueled worldwide assets inflation; similarly, these bull run slowed or ended with qe. shrinking of u.s fed balance sheet will likely have similar profound effects. erratic and unconventional behaviour of dt will likely add uncertainty and confusion during next crisis.

as no economic recession is the same, next will be from unconventional, non-traditional or unexpected sector.
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so what is your opinion then? are we already entering bear phase? beginning of the crash? late bull market? or etc???

just want hear more opinion. No right or wrong.
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post Aug 29 2018, 10:13 AM

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QUOTE(plumberly @ Aug 29 2018, 09:59 AM)
Concur with you on 2 counts (maybe we have been reading or watching the same contents on the net? Ha.)

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Last 5th Elliot wave step to come before the crash.

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One study suggested mid 2019 - mid 2020 for the crash (cant recall the exact months now).

Dont get me wrong, I am not trying to time the crash down to the day/week/month. If you know a storm is coming, it is better to plan ahead.

Cheerio.
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Then u shouldn't sell all laugh.gif tongue.gif

maybe keep 60% stocks , 40% cash lorr... ( slowly reduce once your stock up )

I still very optimistic on market I dunno why.

I don't watch those content at all, my gut feeling tell me LOL.

we might enter prolong long bear market ( drop 30% from all high time and it will continue for many months ) , but I still don't see

market crash yet.

See how this trade war game turn out to be, I expect it will be dissolved in coming months and panic buying mode is coming. Market

expect there will be another talk on sept if trade still couldn't resolve then we probably will go into deeper bear mode.

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post Aug 29 2018, 04:37 PM

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QUOTE(Fortezan @ Aug 29 2018, 02:25 PM)
Just a sharing from a global economy outlook workshop organized by a brokerage firm which I attended. According to their panel of speakers, most of them are of the opinion that this bull run will continue at least until the next US presidential election in 2020, reason being DT will do everything in his power to keep the US economy in good shape so that he can get re-elected for the 2nd term. After that, be very careful, the mother of all crash is coming
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don't confuse it with Bursa.

Seriously I don't see bursa will enjoy the last bull run. ( In my opinion )





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post Sep 25 2018, 09:57 AM

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so everybody successfully trim down your holding? Recent bear is quite fierce sweat.gif
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post Jan 16 2019, 03:52 PM

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QUOTE(Havoc Knightmare @ Jan 16 2019, 01:50 PM)
Investors need to distinguish between a recession and a full blown crisis. What global markets are expecting is a recession, as in contracting economic growth. Corporate profits will shrink but business goes on as usual. Central banks and governments will act to stimulate growth by lowering interest rates and spending more, leading to normalisation of growth. Stock markets may dip in line with contracting profits, but nothing major. Several countries like Germany are already at this point, with the economy contracting in Q4 of 2018. If it contracts again this quarter, this qualifies for a recession but markets are not making a big deal over this.

On the other hand, a crisis involves more than just contracting GDP growth. It involves the messy unravelling of the financial system due to loss of faith in the banks and other institutions. This is usually triggered by the bursting of some asset bubbles, and the failing of central banks to act in preventing the domino effect. Everyone just dumps anything except cash and solid bonds. We saw that in the US in 2008 and Asia in 1997. In this scenario a major bear market is likely.

At this point, which is more likely? Are there any significant asset bubbles that will burst? If yes, how will central banks react? Do we expect them to do nothing until banks fail?

So far, stocks are not showing any bubble like valuations. Property prices are high, but central banks are very careful to not cause a collapse. The only bubble that I can think of that has burst is the crypto space, which had little impact on financial systems fortunately.

Since this thread is focused on a crash, what do you guys think will trigger it? Just an open ended question to think.
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Many says China property bubble ( which I heard since 2009 I think ), which will affect the chinese banks etc.

Some says brexit, will trigger something on pound and those european debt crisis . ( I think I heard this since 2010 also ).

some even say japan debt crisis as well ( which mentioned many many years ago also )

Agree with you, the bubble than has been burst recent years only happen in crypto.

I dunno you all, I still bull on global giant tech stocks .

Based on equity market pricing recently, this trade war almost fully absorb in the equity market valuation.

I expect Malaysia equity will continue in bear territory at least another 2 more years. So far no good news I heard at all

most of the analyst estimate earning result of companies like O&G , Construction , Plantation , Casino . Property , etc

not much surprise and going down or flattish in the next few quarter.

Really bottom or not , I guess nobody know. Just slowly add and add lo tongue.gif tongue.gif


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post Mar 12 2019, 05:44 PM

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QUOTE(foofoosasa @ Aug 29 2018, 04:37 PM)
don't confuse it with Bursa.

Seriously I don't see bursa will enjoy the last bull run. ( In my opinion )
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Hmm guess my prediction somehow true hmmm...

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/201...s-doubts-emerge
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QUOTE(exdtan @ Apr 8 2019, 03:08 PM)
New principle added to my investment dictionary.
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You don't protect your investment when inflation is sky high rocket.

But lucky enough TS made a great choice especially with malaysia current situation, cash is king.
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post Apr 8 2019, 11:16 PM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Apr 7 2019, 09:12 PM)
According to some regulatory reports, next financial or economic crisis will likely trigger by fed rate rise and impact could be more widely than previous crisis.

De-gearing is a common sense going forward.
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Regulatory report and economist prediction always wrong.

De gearing is very dangerous I doubt they will do it.

I predict more and more low interest rate policy continue and

more country will join Negative rate territory.
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post Apr 10 2019, 02:48 PM

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QUOTE(plumberly @ Apr 10 2019, 07:56 AM)
Food/wine for thought ...

Do you think it will:
* get worse
* get better
* stay the same?

You decide and then take action.

Yes, it depends on your expectation, risk appetite, current/medium/long term cash flow requirements, etc etc etc.

For me, as you know, I have chickened out! Ha.
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if based on some statistic, true bear market averagely last for 14 months.

the real bear for KLCI start from May 2018 ( after election ), while some small cap and political link counter already experience more than 50% drop from high price ( some of them doesn't mean they are cheap )

actually start to hunt some good potential stock at current is actually quite good option with small bet every few weeks or a month. But this bear market I predict gonna be quite long due to low crude oil price , low CPO price , worsening property market condition, increase NPL on banks, political links counters collapse etc , lower & Disappointed earning for majority of listed companies.

Hunt Slowly and patiently wink.gif

Just my 2 cents




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post Apr 12 2019, 07:13 PM

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QUOTE(plumberly @ Apr 12 2019, 11:22 AM)
https://www.imf.org/en/News/Articles/2019/0...spring-meetings

But just like nature, the global economy is also currently quite uncertain. As I said a year ago, we were talking about synchronized growth. And 75 percent of the global economy was going through that phase. As you heard a couple of days ago, we are now talking about a synchronized slowdown by 70 percent of the global economy. So our forecast for growth this year is 3.3 percent, going back up, we hope, in 2020, based on our forecast, to 3.6 percent. But we contend that we are at a delicate moment. And this expected rebound, from 3.3 in 2019 to 3.6 in 2020, is precarious and is subject to downside risks, ranging from unresolved trade tensions, high debt in some sectors and countries, both public and corporate, to the risk of weaker‑than‑expected growth in some stressed economies, and, of course, the consequences of whatever Brexit will be.

70% of the 195 nations? Or 70% of the total economy volume?

Wonder which are the other 30% nations?
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IMF article is the last thing should affect people making decision in investment. Reason is simple, it is lagging data.

Slow down by 70 percent of countries? For what reason? Obviously is because of trade war. So hows the progress of trade war now? Why US keep delay the trade war game? Other slow down i guess mostly from country that rely on o&g.

The above reason still not good enough for global market to continue long bear. We still in low interest rate and excessive

money printing in history. Look at US market , japanese market and chinese market.

However, malaysia economy is special case. We have low cpo, crude oil price, change of new gov , overhang property market etc. Our bear will be longer than other market.
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post Jun 24 2019, 02:51 PM

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60% stocks and 40% cash now hmm...

3 months back my stock made up 30% only. hmm.gif
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QUOTE(Krv23490 @ Jul 11 2019, 09:50 AM)
Yea man ! SP500 touch 3000 for the first time. Wanted to sell my AMZN shares before G20 meeting, glad I didn't
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nice choice. Economy is bad but last few month indeed I think oversell. my pick is FB drool.gif
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QUOTE(Krv23490 @ Jul 11 2019, 05:14 PM)
I think cant go wrong with FANG, been holding since 750s, bought 1 more share at 1700.

Let's see how it plays out during earnings in a couple of weeks
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For me I will try avoid Neflix nod.gif
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QUOTE(Cubalagi @ Mar 12 2020, 10:12 PM)
Yes, finally the bear has come to the US market, (and such an angry bear!). Other markets surely will be hurt tomorrow as well.

More downside is likely, but nevertheless, the current levels has triggered my "deploy those cash time" and I will go in several batches over the next weeks/months.

However, the problem now is that, looking at the carnage now, Im spoilt for choices. Should I buy S&P500, Europe, STI, KLSE, HSCEI, OnG, All are pretty low now. But funds are finite.

Appreciate some thoughts.
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For me i will focus US stocks.simply those company are too good to ignore.

Personally i will stay away from bursa. OnG probably suitable for short term goreng because too volatile and unpredictable with current economy and global politic.

When catching falling knife, always be careful. Catch the knife handler, not the sharp part. Before this crash i already sold of 50% of my holding excluding my warchest that awaiting crash like this..my point is when we becone contrarian to market, control well your bullet every time go in money. Now still not the right time to hentam kuat kuat

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QUOTE(plumberly @ Mar 13 2020, 09:24 AM)
Mind sharing why the USA and no Bursa? Thought there are some good growth counters in bursa (10-20% pa).

The USA counters are more than x2 better than these good bursa counters?

Must be at least 2 times better for me to switch completely out.

Or partly to gain from the US-RM currency gains?

Thanks.
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yes.

tech stock and global blue chips.

yes currently still high valuation, so one should slowly buy.
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QUOTE(plumberly @ Apr 9 2020, 07:38 PM)
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/roubini-warn...-205406137.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EI5NRhoPstk

Yes, some tunnel vision on my part (sharing mainly the it-is-getting-worse news). Just ignore these if you don't subscribe to that belief.
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So TS have you started any buying recent few weeks? Or still stay sideline
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Apr 16 2020, 11:22 AM)
USD can become reserves currency because US
1. is the world biggest economy, if its economy tank, so does the rest. Everyone needs US to consume their goods export. 
2. is the superpower in term of military.
3. USD is widely accepted and freely traded worldwide. If you have been in those poor 3rd world country, they are more happy to accept USD instead of their own currency.
4. Worldwide trades, mostly quoted in USD and USD is the main settlement currency. You see oil quoted in USD, gold quoted in USD, commodities quoted in USD.

Once you are doing export import business, then you will know the importance of USD.

You buy oil from ABC country, you need to make payment in US, not ABC currency or your own country currency.

You buy electronic chip from XYZ company in XYZ country, price is quoted in USD and settlement is done in USD.

You need USD everywhere in world trading, hence every country needs to store USD as their reserves to pay for their import bill.
If you run out of USD, you can't pay your import bill for foods and goods.
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Beside all this, in recent years there is one more backing up US dollar. US technology.

US dollar are not backed up by gold standard, but it is backed up by its military, petrodollar , trading ( for most of the good and commodity ), and recent years is technology. That's why 5G emergence from china is a threat to US not only by the technology itself, in somehow financial perspective as well.
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QUOTE(plumberly @ Apr 16 2020, 06:45 PM)
Came across this in IMF report on global economic impact due to covid19.

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Surprised that the coffee price has increased! It must be due to the lockdown globally. Ha.

Interested in some commodities eg copper (Dr. Copper as an economic indicator). Maybe platinum is worth looking at.

Uranium price is still positive, demand is still strong, for bombs? Hope not.
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so still stay side line? hmm.gif

recovery seem emerge already
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QUOTE(Hansel @ Apr 17 2020, 01:55 PM)
I must say it's more towards recovery in asset prices in stock exchanges,... but economic recovery in numbers, egs GDP, unemployment, etc, still hav rooms to fall. Nowadays, I noticed,.... mkts keep trying to move up or if numbers are not good, will either stay still or fall a bit only,....

Truely,... the saying,...  THIS TIME IT'S DIFFERENT.
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so bro , how about your investment strategy? made some move during this downturn?

I am 95% vested from my existing stock fund lol. but I havent use my other saving, reserve for more downturn etc

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