There are so many brands and design to chose, so how do we pick the right toilet bowl?

1) Identify your toilet bowl is a P or S trap.


2) Measure the outlet distance
P trap or also known as Horizontal outlet (HO) has a standard height of 180mm from floor to the center of the outlet pipe

S-Trap on the other hand is usually 8, 10 or 12" while some old designs do have 20" (rarely)

Here is a sample of how to measure S-trap


3) Type of Flush that you prefer
There are mainly two types of flushing system, Washdown or Siphonic.


4) One Piece or Close Coupled Design
One Piece design refers to the cistern (water tank) and the bowl are connected as one piece. While Close Coupled means, the cistern and bowl are separated.


5) Budget
For RM 1k and above ---> Toto, American Standard, Kohler, Roca (international branded)
for RM 500-1k ----> Johnson Suisse, Sorento, Orin, Modern Depot, GBH (Popular Brands in Malaysia)
For lower budget ----> Inno, Mocha, Sorento

This post has been edited by zheilwane: Aug 8 2018, 12:20 AM

This my be my experience with those small tank water saving models...
They never fully flushed the toilet... after flush... something will come back.. caused the bottom to be dirty.. always have to flush twice...

Old style flusher never have this issue... just my limited tested information.. now this made me hate water saving flusher...

old style flush uses 9L, while all toilet bowls are now designed to be 6L only, hence the power is definitely weaker.

This post has been edited by zheilwane: Aug 8 2018, 12:22 AM

Is there still i mean latest toilet bowl with 9L? Latest technology with 9L...

which one is water saving and yet have powerful flush?

Government standards can only use 6L. That is why u cant get a 9L flush now

Thanks for the detail... so every time i ended up flushing twice.. 6L x2.. T_T

ya, if u can recommend one with powerful flush which can clean in 1 flush... please recommend...

I see many brands advertise water saving, however each flush of water is 6L (standard for all brands). As shown in the video, the Sorento WC flush is quite good but i do agree the old style 9L is stronger

I tried many of the international branded WC in hotels while traveling oversea, sometimes still nd two flush, depending on what is going in the toilet bowl
SO wondering why people spend RM 2 - 3k getting those exp WC

i have one of those siphonic one.. useless. want to change to washdown.

Are mocha brand wc ok? Interested in one model i saw in the fair mwc 7609.. but can't find any information about it online...

Please advise...

I installed 3 units MOCHA, one piec
e type, bought at Home pro abt /rm 460 each. Very good.easy flush, modern look, soft close cover.

Nice, which model did you choose?

Can you please share some pictures?

Can i please ask where is Home Pro?

I've always kept to Johnson Suisse, simple reason is it is easy to get parts for when it is time to replace it and quality is fairly good.

Any recommendations for Toto toilet?

I plan to purchase one set and received following quotation:

a. Toto Washlet+ MS636DV RM3,880


b. Toto Washlet TCF4731A RM4,000



1. Any feedback on them?
2. Does anyone aware of ongoing promotion for both products?

Don’t buy that! Check toto atelier. Toto has promo for its GG recently when I purchased my neorest. Special price only -+RM7500 for TOTO CW971BA#XW GG WC Set In White-One Piece Toilet, Dual Flushing 4.5L/3L in S trap
Size: 391 x 721 x 684mm.

I think this one. It has washlet etc etc

The quote is actually from W. Atelier. I asked for recommendation and they recommend me Toto Washlet+ MS636DV model. (Perhaps, I was standing and asking the question at that section - not sure ) Could not remember the original price, but I believe the discount is rather significant (40% - 50%).

I could not find details of TOTO CW971BA#XW online, other than this website. It will take me another Saturday to visit the showroom to learn its features, so, would be interested why this model interests you.

https://youtu.be/dxP2RxdjDVw Check out the video. I have GG, and it’s better than conventional toilet + washlet. I don’t know about others, but I find conventional toilet + mix and match washlet looks ugly. I’d rather go for fully normal toilet, or anything that comes in a set(like GG or smart toilet) rather than mix and match.

Any recommendation on Sorento WC?

my best recommendation, srtwc 8319

anyone using fortec wc and any feedback from this brand? never heard of this brand before

How did you get that price ?! I went to w atelier today at Neorest is 74k? 😅 do you know anywhere else that carry Toto brand with some sales ? TIA

What is the price?

nice.. got pic or link?

Mocha is italy brand or locally made? How come the price so cheap?
http://www.mocha.com.my/

local brand, made in china.

I've been looking for a smart toilet. I've watched a lot of home renovation shows from mainland China. They do have a variety of choices for smart toilets at a fraction of cost as compared to Malaysia. Originally, I was thinking to buy and ship one from China. After thinking through about warranty and all, it may not be a good idea no matter how advanced and CHEAP they are there. I've checked out a number of brands and models and sort of made up my mind to get the RH series from Toto. Is there any other reliable Toto dealers apart from Toto Atelier? The price they offered is enticing but I just wonder if I can get it cheaper elsewhere.

I went to look at a Johnson Suisse Erika WC at a shop (not Builders Hardware), and what bugged me was that the font for the Johnson Suisse logo felt inconsistent.



Should it look more like this?



Is this an indication that Johnson Suisse QC isn't as good these days? Or is the seller selling fake? Or am I just being too nitpicky and worrying over small things...

is like that 1, so far dont c any fake in the market

Any recommendation for a 12inch wc?

sorento srtwc8319, adjustable 6 - 12", uf seat cover, wash down. good design and reasonable price ard RM 770+- market price. ofcoz can get lower with the right shop

This post has been edited by zheilwane: Mar 5 2021, 11:32 PM

Would there be a difference in reliability/improvement in flushing etc btwn cheap (eg. Inno) or more expensive models?

I need to replace an old s-trap toilet which has a crack caused by an accident.

I’m a bit confused regarding toilet seat size. In both my parents’ houses (mine and in laws), they both have 2 different sized toilet seats. The one that came with the developer being small size and the ones that they upgraded are obviously bigger.

But the handful of shops that I’ve been to said that there’s no such thing, all toilet seats are same size. It’s just the shape that’s different either round or oval. And the other difference is the distance from the wall to the hole.

Very confusing. I’m 100% certain that there are different size toilet seats.

There is also seat height. I changed brands between old GBH and cheap Inno WC. The GBH is lower.

Any comments on American Standard WC? Quite impressed with the WC, seating much more comfortable than sorento, mocha, johnson suisse despite being slightly more expensive.

My ex-office had them.. so far they worked well, and even better if its comfortable (as the seating, height, width etc) are quite personal choices as they should fit the users who use it most.
Just make sure technical spec of (distance from wall) and (waste hole size) match with your installation dimensions then good to go.

Size is no issue as im building my house almost from scratch.. hopefully making the right choice..

if you are looking for a minimalist wc design, strong flushing and with built in bidet, then can consider the latest MODERN DEPOT one piece water closet



This post has been edited by zheilwane: May 14 2021, 09:48 PM

Boss, how much for a wc like this?

current market price is less than rm 1.5k, but u nd to make sure the hole distance is 300mm

I'm curious how to tell the hole distance - Without actually dismantling the toilet bowl, is there a surefire way to know what is the hole distance from wall?

Is there diff hole size (diameter) to be concerned of as well, or the hole is always standard (1 size) only?

depends on the aesthetic of the previous toilet i guess.

some toilet you can clearly see the s bend without dismantling. then just measure from the wall the distance, from wall to middle of the hole would be the distance.

as for hole size it is always 4 inch diameter.

hole diameter on the floor standard is 4", usually need to remove only can c unless u have an old design where the pipe is visible

Any recommended shop to shop for toilet bowl?
My contractor suggest this : https://www.gsthardware.com.my/

price seems not bad, but only carry johnson suisse brand. is johnson suisse good enough?

also any good recommend for under RM800?

This post has been edited by neo_6053: May 16 2021, 04:01 PM

how long warranty and if spoil got contractor can repair?

internal tank fittings 2 years
Other parts 1 year

they got service team

Hi, i just want to share my problem or maybe you can give some advice please . I bought a toilet bowl s-trap livinox brand. This bowl, when flush the water in tank will built up with the waste before slowly discharge away. Some other toilet bowl when flush the water from tank will push the waste to discharge. The problem im facing is this bowl frequently blocked, i think it is because of the design of the discharge method or is there any other reason?

may b u using symphonic flush design.
1) either u put too much toilet paper
2) may b installer didnt install properly, as the outlet is 2" (standard washdown 4") if they didnt install properly and caused the 2" outlet to be covered 1", thatz y cant flush out properly

I am about to replace my WC and found this. Great.
Both Johnson Suisse & Sorento can easily find replacement parts?
Can recommend me a budget WC with the following factors:
- Budget < 1k. Cheaper better
- Easy to find replacement parts
- Good quality
- P-trap

Anyone has installer contact and how much is the market price for WC replacement labor cost?

u can look srtwc8319 my best seller


plumber rates rm 180 - 250+- depending location

Yes, get the one piece toilet bowl with UF cover type.

I prefer to this also

can anyone recommend wc that has water inlet from the top instead of the bottom of the flush tank?

noticed that most modern wc has water inlet from bottom but my experience when flush tank is dirty, the water will backflow into the cold water system of the whole house!

if u have water keep coming in (there is pressure) water cant backflow. Moreover the tank is only 6L, there wont b much pressure to backflow. Moreover water is coming down from the tank, so the tank water cant go against gravity upward into whole house system.

anyway if worry then jus add a one way valve at the inlet

thanks very insightful =), the problem is that this apartment water is from bottom, meaning the pipe for the unit is running on the floor instead of the ceiling... is this normal?

my cold water has chemical smell and taste, dont know where it coming from a

may b old apartment using metal GI pipes, try adding a carbon filter near water meter if possible. BUt if pipes inside your house also metal pipes then no use. I saw some online add for pipe cleaning, that might help.

https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=136690804293382

ya, me too! pic please

I was wondering where the best place to get TOTO toilet bowl in Klang Valley. I been to Top Idea jalan ipoh, is it me, TOTO toilet bowl is quite small, like a bit narrow when sit on it.

I am in a hurry to get a toilet bowl, hopefully this week.

If so, why still wan to buy toto? u can search eurotan, the sell toto also. If not u can try sorento srtwc8088, many of my biz size customers like it. But u nd to check ur outlet distance. this can only fit 250mm

This post has been edited by zheilwane: Nov 22 2021, 09:50 PM

Hi @zheilwane,

Can I get your advise please. I'm renovating a subsale house which has the WC rough in of 140mm x 3 bathrooms and 170mm x 1 bathroom
I'm trying to avoid relocating the outlet and looking for a WC which is direct S-trap

Instead of relocating the outlet, I was thinking of getting my plumber to insert a 2-3 inch offset pan connector so that the rough in can extend to 200mm.
And I understand that using this method can only be applied to direct S trap and not the more common P-S traps WC's in the market.

Can I get your opinion :
1/ is the 2-3 inch offset pan connector for direct S-trap extending the rough in to 200mm doable/logical?
2/ assuming no 1/ is doable, could you recommend a WC with 200mm set out which is fully covered (ie, back part not exposed) and smooth surface (for easy cleaning)

TQVM!

buy sorento srtwc8319 can fit 140mm and 170mm nicely. for 140mm jus nd to top up to exchange another connector. all will fit nicely without offset
https://buildershardware.com.my/product/srtwc8319-uf/

SRTWC8319 so far my best selling model and can fit almost every measurements, good flushing and quality

This post has been edited by zheilwane: Jan 25 2022, 11:15 AM

Hello,
Was looking for this model all over JB, most top supplier don't carry Sorento, I wonder why. Do you have branch in JB? And to confirm SRTWC8319 can use with 9" hole from wall?

Thanks

https://sorento.com.my/index.php/our-stores

u can search johor dealers here

Thanks

I order via online. Arrive at my current house. I wonder if this toilet bowl really really fragile? This thing is damn heavy. Scare to move it around would brake it. And I need to move it to another house soon. Any advice on how to move it safely?

Thanks

Seems Toto has the most offering of toilet bowl eh.... and it is pretty premium.

What would be a good alternative for it? I've seen American Standard has some good offering too...

As for Sorento... they are local brand?
any wall hung model? it is worth to install?



This post has been edited by Clueless07: Apr 21 2022, 09:20 AM

many brands hav wall hung model.... but u nid to plan how u gonna install ur wall hung.... like the flushing unit inside a wall? or the flushing unit is actually outside the wall like a 3 inch box infront of the wall?



the latter 1 sure ez for maintenance cuz the whole thing is outside.... but if for look, concealed inside wall is the best in look.... the maintenance is juz the small flush button panel.... think twice....

This is the external flush unit....

if wan something modern n affordable can check out modern depot brand, model : minima

rm 1k++ only

yeah... came across this
it is certainly good price and good design

how is the after sales support ? Especially when too much electronics integrated. There is concern the system gone case and no parts to repair and need to hack off the whole unit

this 1 no electronics, thatz y much cheaper. the brand Modern Depot mainly sell high end massage tub, so they have their own technicians

Thinking to upgrade my toilet. Looking at rimless back to wall, can be either close-coupled or one-piece.

What's the disadvantage of back to wall as opposed to curved back?

Any other options around the price range of RM1000? I found Johnson Suisse Vicenza and Rigel WC9030F so far to be within range. No one-piece option at this price range found so far

definitely not johnson suisse, shit always stuck

Hi, is it worth getting the rimless toilet bowl? There seems to be more pros than cons compared to normal type. Browsing through the price, it's about the same or cheaper than normal toilet bowl?

depending on the wc quality, some rimless are cheaper than non-rimless, some more exp, so depend which quality u getting. first meassure hole distance only decide what to buy, from what i know most rimless wc are 250mm

Thanks for the reply Zein, cause I was actually comparing the Sorento you recommended, against another same brand but rimless, and the rimless is cheaper.

means the quality of the WC is lower grade, price of a WC is not because rimless or not, is the material and quality

Had similar preference such as yourself and I finally went with Sorento. Most important like what a poster above said, get the measurements first then only you'd know what brand and model you can get. I renovated my place and 3 of my bathrooms all had different hole distances.

Sorento was the only brand that could work for me. Still had to get 2 different models though.

there is a new wc in town. Sorento SRTWC8122. Tankless design, direct flush system. Traditional WC, water stored in cistern (tank) 6L and some brands 4.5L. SO, the flushing power is only limited to the water stored in tank, there is no way to improve flushing power. With SORENTO direct flush system, flushing strength relies on incoming water pressure, so the stronger the water pressure, the better the flush. Recommended to have 2bar and above.

Here is a demo

will this work for P-trap outlet?

nop only S

are you able to recommend p-trap tankless wc? my current traditional wc low pressure when flush so looking to switch to tankless

Many customers requested for BIGGER or Larger WC, well here is it SORENTO SRTWC8366, slightly bigger compared to regular WC

Out of topic abit
Are sorento faucets made in malaysia or China oem?

CHINA, actually majority high quality products also made in china d now. depending how much u r paying for, cheaper = low grade factory, more $$ seller will find higher end factories

Thanks
Is there any brand that is in house and made in malaysia?

GBH i think, listed company

Any users of American Standard WC here? I find their designs rather sleek and most reviews overseas boasts about their lifetime durability. But I can hardly find any reviews from homeowners here. Think my concern is more to the ease of spare part availability and after sales.

I believe for Sorento/Johnson Suisse, this is not an issue since these 2 seem to be very common here in our Malaysian household.

Any recommendations for all in large retailers where you can see many WC types and brands in one place and maybe even see the demonstrations?

anyone know where to find taller WC for elderly,

Another option would be a commode chair which you can push over the toilet bowl. Useful for bathing elderly as well.

Is the quality of the glazing of Johnson Suisse better than other cheaper local brands like Sorento, GBH...? Its seems to be abit more expensive but is that reflected in the quality?

Between Orin and Johnson Suisse. Which would you say is better quality?