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 -+♠+-LYN Proton Persona IAFM Owners Club V55-+♠+-, The besi buruk counting it's days.

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post Jun 17 2022, 08:49 PM

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QUOTE(Steponlego @ Jun 17 2022, 04:13 PM)
Hi. Car is 15 years old this year at 200,000KM. Worth it to replace the rear suspension? Can you feel the difference? I'm thinking getting new rear arms and replace all the rubber bushings including the trailing arm bushing. Shock absorber still okay, not making any knocking sound or have oil leaking not sure if I should change that too.
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If you doing it, time it to the time of tyre rotation as you'll need to do alignment after replacing lower arms/ bushings.

To change what or not maybe you'll need proper inspection. Of course you can change everything but will it overkill or not that is not sure.
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post Jun 17 2022, 09:54 PM

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QUOTE(Steponlego @ Jun 17 2022, 09:30 PM)
yeah i'm thinking either to buy the whole thing from shopee and let mechanic handle the rest. whole no name aftermarket set is just under RM300, include short and long upper arm, lower arm, stabilizer link and bushings. branded part local made like Saiko costs a bit more and then Proton original part is even more expensive. they're non moving part nowhere near the engine, so i guess it's safe to go for cheaper option here?

rough inspection, i can see that the rubber on stabilizer link is already reduced to some dry black rotted stuff. other parts looks okay, but it has been 15 years, who knows what it does to the other bushings.

i wonder if the rear suspension will effect my daily drive, will it make driving the car feel better?
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Stabilizer link bushing is 5 ringgit a piece item. Whole set 20 ringgit only. If you change that first and it gave you good feedback, then it's not too late for you to proceed also right?

Also on inspection outcome, "boleh pakai" is not the same with "still good" hahahha

Edit: Please don't get me wrong. From my perspective driving comfort definitely will improve after suspension set change. The question is how much and is it worth it. Your money your call.

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post Jun 19 2022, 11:39 AM

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QUOTE(Steponlego @ Jun 18 2022, 05:22 PM)
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Does this driveshaft/ inner CV joint look okay or need replacing?
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Need to open the boot to check. If it's still okay, the leak probably is from damaged boot. They can regrease and change a new boot for you.
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post Jun 26 2022, 07:22 PM

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QUOTE(AlexZai123 @ Jun 26 2022, 06:44 PM)
Hey guys, discovered my radiator spare tank hose is leaking as I can see color at the end of it connecting to the radiator.

The spare tank hose and the clip. What is it called? I tried to google but couldn't find it online.

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Coolant reservoir hose?

But if it's a low pressure hose, any aftermarket silicone hose should do the job just fine.
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post Jun 26 2022, 10:50 PM

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QUOTE(AlexZai123 @ Jun 26 2022, 08:59 PM)
Yeah, that's the hose I mean. Do you have any link to the item where I can purchase?
I tried searching in Shopee/Lazada, but those general silicone hoses came in different diameter. E.g. 3mm, 4mm 5mm
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You can go to spare part shop to enquire. If you buying online best is have a caliper ruler to measure intenal diameter of hose to place order accurately.

On hind sight, it would be a lot more accurate to measure outer diameter of radiator nib.

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post Jun 29 2022, 11:50 PM

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QUOTE(Steponlego @ Jun 29 2022, 08:08 PM)
Belt tensioner between original and aftermarket have any difference other than the price? I think mine has started to make some funny noise when the A/C compressor kicks in.

It sounds like you drag a chair across the floor. Not the usual rat squeaking noise. Doesn't happen all the time, only at random. So far I have no luck recording it because it does it's random.
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It's life expectancy was designed to change together with timing belt.

I have tried after market brand. It never lasted long as original proton. So i switch back to proton until Zordaq told me i can use tensioner of Preve after change the screw. The spring of Preve belt tensioner is stronger and should last longer. Will have to see how it goes. So far so good.
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post Jun 30 2022, 08:38 AM

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QUOTE(Steponlego @ Jun 30 2022, 12:02 AM)
but the price... holy cow man. really makes you wonder what kind of QC or what kind of secret sauce they use. i'm using RM150 'original' tensioner with metal pulley, probably 2 years old at this point. turns out proton no longer make this kind of tensioner, now it's only plastic pulley.
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Yeah i wondered that too. Their spring damn strong. Good thing is it's easy to change so it's okay to run with after market brand if you financially tight for now.

But if you go with the plastic pulley, remember to superglue the cap of the pulley bearing. There's chance of it falling out.

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post Jul 4 2022, 02:30 PM

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QUOTE(powerwoot @ Jul 4 2022, 09:46 AM)
guys, before I send this the the workshop, I am having this abnormal radiator fan. After drive few km of mileage, usually after longer driving, my radiator fan will start itself about a minute. Never happened to me before, some said fan relay need to be replace, some suggesting thermostat and some say the radiator need to be flush and change the new coolant.
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I suppose the easiest way to check is to start with coolant first. Are they dirty with rust? How long you haven't change them?
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post Jul 4 2022, 03:40 PM

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QUOTE(powerwoot @ Jul 4 2022, 03:17 PM)
thank you. This morning I am decided and sent my car to flush all the rusty out, changed the coolant, replaced the thermostat and new rad cap. That cost me rm154 including the labor charge. Thank god the metal pipe is still good and shiny 🤩. Now my radiator fan no longer starting itself. My previous flushing was about 3 or 4 years ago lol.
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Patutlah hahahahaha. Remember to use distilled water instead of pipe water for your radiator.
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post Jul 9 2022, 06:08 PM

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QUOTE(Steponlego @ Jul 9 2022, 03:15 PM)
Asked a workshop to change the tensioner. My Persona is the non IAFM model with original Campro engine. Foreman refused to change my tensioner from metal roller to plastic roller because he's concerned about the compatibility.

Anyone can confirm if I can use the tensioner with plastic roller instead of metal one? I asked on Gen2 owners group, they said should be no problem, plus Proton no longer make the old model tensioner.
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Can't help bro. I'm on IAFM model. But IAFM vs non IAFM should be intake only. So should be okay to use.
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post Jul 10 2022, 11:46 AM

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QUOTE(Steponlego @ Jul 9 2022, 08:28 PM)
ya, would be weird if cannot use. double confirmed with proton part seller said it's the new spec.

a bit sad la because first time try this big workshop. they look like a proper place with waiting room free wifi and stuff, rajin update on social media about car stuff. close to my house too.

now the workshop is on my no go list. sigh. i had my suspicion when i ask them to look at my aircond and the repair guy was quick to suggest replace compressor. on hindsight, probably i won't go to any workshop that have official tiktok account.
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Well, they pull you in using good marketing but didn't retain you with good service. Shame on them.
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post Jul 11 2022, 01:12 PM

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QUOTE(Steponlego @ Jul 11 2022, 12:29 PM)
Okay so today went to usual workshop. Talk to owner, explain the situation. He frowned a bit, he's a busy guy who don't want any bullshit stays too long on his workshop said okay - but need to use 6PK1669 shorter belt. Checked my old tensioner by pulling the belt, yep confirmed spring is too soft already.

I explained about how original part no longer have metal roller but he don't buy it. So that's two workshop that never heard of this news or the proton part seller is scamming me. Explained further how I bought this thing for like RM300 so I really want to get it done.

Proceed to change tensioner. It was bloody tight almost impossible but somehow managed to pull the tensioner right. Saw the belt not resting quite right on the tensioner but foreman said it will correct itself after start engine.

I start engine, and foreman was right - the belt does correct itself.

Now the engine idles better when the a/c is on.
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Glad to hear it bro. Thanks for the tip on shorter drive belt. Is it the one that made for Preve?
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post Jul 11 2022, 08:45 PM

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Guys, any advice on voltage stabilizer & ground cable? Any good or waste of money?
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post Jul 12 2022, 02:27 PM

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QUOTE(Steponlego @ Jul 12 2022, 01:54 PM)
snake oil.
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Hahahha ok bro
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post Jul 21 2022, 12:55 PM

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QUOTE(Steponlego @ Jul 21 2022, 11:48 AM)
need recommendation for brake pad.
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Am using brenbo.
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post Jul 21 2022, 11:07 PM

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QUOTE(Steponlego @ Jul 21 2022, 12:58 PM)
the one with red shim or black?

got shopee sellers selling the ceramic with red shim, but the price is sus. not to mention all of them lose their 100% original guarantee status.

latest brembo website shows only black shim is sold now.
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Yeah i bought the red shim one. But it's not for our car model but for other car with similar dimension. My mechanic has to reuse the old pad holding bracket to install it.

I use Bendix and it seems that it was too hard for original brake rotor.

This set of brake pad was bought together with rotor.

I would advice against original because it's the original pad that damage my rotor in the first place. Could be just my anecdotal view.
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post Jul 22 2022, 09:44 AM

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QUOTE(Steponlego @ Jul 22 2022, 12:48 AM)
I'm using original Proton brake pad right now, made by Mintye which weirdly does not comes with metal shims on the brake pad.

I'm thinking that the missing shim might be causing the mysterious knocking sound when I hit the brakes.
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I always thought the metal on the shim was noise indicator. Do inspect your rotor. Might came from there. Best is had undercarriage checked when you have access of a jack.
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post Jul 24 2022, 08:31 AM

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2 weeks review of semi bucket seat.

Good lateral support.
Good ergonomics, less back and shoulder pain
But more difficult to climb in and climb out.
Less cushioning and harder foam means more vibration transmitted to my butt.

I'm buying seat cushion for this.
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post Jul 25 2022, 04:57 PM

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QUOTE(propusers @ Jul 25 2022, 08:57 AM)
check my spare tyre which is 10 years old...

i refer the manual book, the spare tyre size is T135/70D16...

the standard size is 195/60R15

when i want to change new trye, i cannot use the old tyre to replace the 10 years old spare tyre
any suggestion? did you replace the spare tyre with a new one?
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Yeah i never replaced that as well. If it's too old i would just buy a new spare tyre. But then i only used it twice since my ownership from 2011. I suppose if my spare damaged while it's used, I'll have no choice to call for tow truck.


QUOTE(McFcker @ Jul 25 2022, 03:16 PM)
nice which brand and how much damage for the seats? my seat also kind worn jor, 10 years time to change.
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SSCUS OWL, RM 1,700 for a pair including bracket at their official dealer in JB. My wife doesn't enjoy it. Saying it's not cushioning her against bumpy road. I might change second driver seat back to original seat to keep her happy.
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post Jul 26 2022, 01:43 PM

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QUOTE(McFcker @ Jul 26 2022, 09:33 AM)
nice, i was looking at this brand too but its at JB, did they inculde installation for you?
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Yup the price include bracket and installation.

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