I read about Keto diet and im curious why keto diet wants you to eat more FAT . in percentage, they are more but reduced Carb.
Isn't Fat makes you fatter as well? They said in order to achieve Ketosis.

Those who follow keto diet swears that it works. I guess you just have to try it to know it. I've read about keto diet as well and it says it doesn't really take long before you reach ketosis (a few days) as long as you're really strict with it.

When you shift to a diet that’s almost entirely fat, you’re forcing your body into what is essentially starvation mode. Deprived of its main fuel source (carbs), your body shifts into ketosis, which is when you turn your fat stores into ketone bodies. Ketones can act as a substitute for molecules like glucose that your body would normally get from carbs. Having ketone bodies instead of glucose in the brain might be why this diet works for epileptic people, and breaking down body fat makes it appealing to all the fad dieters. If you’re doing keto for weight loss, the idea is that you’re trying to constantly keep your body in a mild state of starvation, such that you’re burning off fat all the time.

the nett carb i calculated it is very low. it's like 30g only. that means i can eat like 1-2 slice of bread per day if im not wrong.
and i wonder if you do any checks to indicate if you are in Ketosis . is our pharmacy sells the bood strip to check using blood glucose monito.

https://8fit.com/nutrition/how-to-detect-ketosis/

This post has been edited by missysleepy: Aug 1 2018, 05:32 PM

If you work out and doing keto dieting, then you will feel demotivated as your energy level cannot keep up with the muscle demand.

in the beginning of the journey, the strips will be useful to detect ketones, but when your system kept using ketones that you generate in the long term, the negative indication from the strips is misleading.

Best way to detect is when you have mental clarify and no longer crave any food (esp carbo or sweet food) even you takes only 2 meals a day, recommended timing is 1130am and and 5pm, so intermittent fasting starts from 5pm onwards till next morning. Most fasting people will say cleansing, but it's the long hour of burning fats producing ketones that helps to eliminate diseases such as epilepsy, diabetes, cancer, etc. More studies has been done at the cell levels that suggest to deprive the mitochondrial from using glucose to feed detrimental anaerobic cell energy productions that are probably mother of all source of illness. A healthy cells will likely use oxygen and ketones to produce energy.

Long term plan is one meal a day (OMAD), it helps you organs to work less daily (less damage) and achieve longevity. The emphasis long term is quality over quantity.

I know it's totally defy old traditional thinking, I hope it helps your health in the long run.

false, your body has more fats reserves that required, the high fats diet will supply the energy needs for exercise requirement, unless you are Underweight or Malabsorption.

There's actually 2 Meal plans to follow, losing weight and building muscle is two different meal plan. depending on which one are you focusing. IF you just want to lose weight, you will lose some muscles too if im not mistaken. (lowya correct or false). Building muscle requires for more excess protein . I think the beauty of building muscle is that your energy level will goes up . IF you are trying to fit one meal plan for both, the body system will have problems, I assume.
I think for Keto, u just want your body to be a Furnace to burn fat first . Your energy level will develop over time once you get rids of all toxins in the body and your cells starts rebuilt . u will feel young again and im sure your energy level will develop like a 10 years old kid again.

The one Meal a day is it consider a full meal that consist probably about 500-800 Kcal?
In between , we take smaller meal around 200 kcal . Usually, a good meal balance is about 5 small meals spread out in a day .
So if it's 1 Meal you mentioned above, i assume it's a filler to make it last longer. Usually i will take this meal for lunch but not exceeding above 500 -800 kcal.

as long as you work well on under 100g carb (e.g. <2 pcs of bread daily threshold) you shall be good, calories count is a hassle for most people. You will not lose muscle weight by sticking to keto protein requirement, it's a 3 in 1 plans - lose weight, gain muscles, prevent deceases.

and about Keto using more fat in the diet , will it be more risky since high visceral fat is not so good for the health unless what they meant was healthy fats like animal fats , olive oil , canola oil , flaxseed oil , right.

In the Keto ency, do they mean these are the FATs rather than the refined oils such as hydrogenated oil and trans fat oil?

animal fats are more stable than other cooking oils, so it's recommended in keto diets. So if you are cooking, try using fatty meat as your cooking oil replacement. Even if you buy olive oil, the moment you open, it will come in contact with oxygen and get oxygenated, but with animal oil it's doesn't get oxygenated, hence are healthier choice of cooking 'oil'.

Having said that, anything good in large amount will not end good either, that's life.

human body uses carbs to generate energy, when u do keto diet u usually consume little to no carbs.
so with absent of carbs in your body it starts to consume fats as replacement.

that is why u wont get fatter by consuming fat.
thats the basic understanding, more detail explanation can google.

animal fats, coconut oil and olive oil is the best.

i see. the last time i saw AFC cooking shows, when the chef were using lards or duck fat , i quickly condemned their food for unhealthy. I guess they know better after all. in one of the youtube video i saw, a doc said those healthy oil such as olive oil and canola have to be kept in the fridge not outside room temp because of oxygenation. he said this oil are delicate oil.


is it true that oil or fats that solidified are not a good oil?
a friend told me that anything if solidified and turned hard is not a good oil . he said omega 3 oil won't solidified which is a good fish oil.

Nope.
Coconut turn solid very easily.

im still researching but im already on mild keto diet. cutting down carbs.
it should be on track but i just heard of OMAD. another way to loose fat and live healthier. it's better than KETO since it 's also focus on cleansing

That is why I am saying you should read and understand more before you go on and gulp your 'protein shake'. Carbs do not make you fat. Fats do not make you fat. Over eating does.

Fats are higher in caloric density hence it is easier to over eat. 1.5 table spoon of oil is 180kcal to 190kcal while 2 slices of massimo full wheat bread is 183kcal. You feel fuller with 2 slices of bread hence you will not have the tendency to go eat other food to curb your hunger. I have nothing against keto diet, but you need to know how nutrition work before following blindly on what they called fad diet.

Regardless what 'diet' you follow, calorie in vs calorie out. If you do not understand, go google more, read more.

This post has been edited by lingleeyen: Aug 3 2018, 12:08 PM

Try eating 3000kcal with keto diet when your TDEE is 2000kcal. I can guarantee that you will not loose.

There are no kcal in fats. basically cutting carbs means cutting kcal.

This one powderful.

Depending on which type of fats you take, each gram of fats have 7kcal to 9kcal. 1 tablespoon has 120kcal to 130kcal. Hard boiled egg has 75kcal and your fried egg with crispy edge is 200kcal or more. Your whole fried chicken leg is 600kcal while the roasted one has 400kcal. So you are still telling me fats in your food makes no difference?

Fats do not make you fat. Over eating any food category over your TDEE makes you fat.

Carbs will make you crave for more carbs, here's why:

Carbs or sugar intake immediately converted to glucose by saliva, ready to use by body at the very first instances, however insulin spike will convert excess glucose in stored fats in say the belly for future use. After the spike is over, your body starts craving for more again. This vicious cycle is repeated and the process of of storing the energy is repeated but this process is quite taxing to our organs, where the liver or kidneys are working round the clock just to store up excess energy, what for? So this is the reason to avoid carbs.

More explained here in my blog:
https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...50&p=89817861&#

This post has been edited by lowya: Aug 3 2018, 01:33 PM

But but but...I don't crave for more. I eat to fit my macros. I dont eat to fit my appetite. Follow whatever you want. I follow whatever I want. I just want people to know what and how that 'diet' works before blindly going into it. I eat protein carbs fats, depending on my mood, because I know how much and what am I eating.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Food_energy#Nutrition_labels

Don't spread bro science here yo.

So for fatty like you who has lots of fat reserve, just drink plain water. Your body will tap your TDEE calories from within.

LOL

Are you selling a false theory?

Burning fat is detoxing your body?

You are really confused

unless you are living in Ethiopia, most people do not have issue of lack of energy from diet.

This post has been edited by missysleepy: Aug 5 2018, 06:13 AM

did keto for a month, i would say yes i feel lighter, the first few days you can see you are getting slimmer because losing body water, thus you need to take salt (healthier salt)

but there is the bad side of it which is you will have keto flu for the first few weeks, you need to eat more salt, and if you would stick for the strict one, 20gram of carbs per day....depends on your preference.

I know some cancer survivor practice this diet because cancer cells can't live without glucose.

Lol not everyone have the dedication and mental focus like that unfortunately. Everyones will be ripped if it's that easy to do.

The idea is simple, but execution is another different story, hence the reason why diets like intermittent fasting, keto exist.

i watch youtube about fasting is better to archive ketosis they did not mention it how to do it. and now i cant find the video again. anyone confirm source that fasting is better?

fasting without water is bad. fluids is recommended throughout the day for keto diets.