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post Jul 25 2018, 10:04 PM, updated 8y ago

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Just a few months ago i bought a 480GB Kingston A400 @ RM466
now market price for this SSD is only around RM300
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post Jul 25 2018, 10:05 PM

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QUOTE(smallcrab @ Jul 25 2018, 10:05 PM)
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go shopee check, i dont wanna promote any seller
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post Jul 25 2018, 10:06 PM

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120gb how much now?
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post Jul 25 2018, 10:06 PM

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ada drop meh??

btw, my eyes on NVME... not sata ssd...
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post Jul 25 2018, 10:07 PM

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QUOTE(lowyard @ Jul 25 2018, 10:06 PM)
120gb how much now?
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RM103 ... not worth getting the 120GB
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post Jul 25 2018, 10:08 PM

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thanks now i go buy
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Only Sata, M2 still hasn't dropped that much.
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post Jul 25 2018, 10:12 PM

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i dont need more than 256gb

so i got a 2tb today brows.gif
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post Jul 25 2018, 10:13 PM

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can shopee be trust?
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can shopee be trust?
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yup, unlike other platforms, Shopee will hold your money first until you confirm you receive the product and in good condition. That's what i like about shopee, refund process is easy too, if u buy product from china seller just send back to Shopee office they will process the refund
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This ssd is the most lousy one. Of coz cheap.

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post Jul 25 2018, 10:17 PM

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post Jul 25 2018, 10:19 PM

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Kingston SSD bisa percaya ke?
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post Jul 25 2018, 10:20 PM

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QLC is coming!! MLC will die, TLC will be use in performance based SSD.
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post Jul 25 2018, 10:21 PM

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I bought 6 units Kingston 240GB A400 from different Shoppee & Lazada vendors. All local sellers. All are genuine. In fact the first time i bought was RM202 with codes. The last was RM180 without codes. All are used to update my 2 laptops and relatives old laptops. The best lowest cost upgrade ever!!!!

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QUOTE(Archemedia @ Jul 25 2018, 10:04 PM)
Just a few months ago i bought a 480GB Kingston A400 @ RM466
now market price for this SSD is only around RM300
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capacity?
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QUOTE(Chaud @ Jul 25 2018, 10:24 PM)
capacity?
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He already say it is 480GB.
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post Jul 25 2018, 10:30 PM

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QUOTE(Chaud @ Jul 25 2018, 10:24 PM)
capacity?
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post Jul 25 2018, 10:32 PM

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If got M.2 nvme price drop I go buy. Need 1 TB storage for my laptop
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QUOTE(Archemedia @ Jul 25 2018, 10:04 PM)
Just a few months ago i bought a 480GB Kingston A400 @ RM466
now market price for this SSD is only around RM300
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Laptop SSD 128Gb how much?
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post Jul 25 2018, 10:36 PM

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Laptop SSD 128Gb how much?
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Read in early reply
About rm102
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post Jul 25 2018, 10:39 PM

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PC Depot selling :

KINGSTON A400 120GB SSD SATA-6 : RM 107.99

KINGSTON A400 240GB SSD SATA-6 : RM 175.99

KINGSTON A400 480GB SSD SATA-6 : RM 315.99

Maybe a few ringgit more than online but buying from physical shop got less hassle if got problem and want to claim warranty.

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QLC is coming!! MLC will die, TLC will be use in performance based SSD.
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I dont think so,By storing more bit in every cell you decrease the NAND performance and endurance

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post Jul 25 2018, 10:42 PM

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QUOTE(netmatrix @ Jul 25 2018, 10:21 PM)
I bought 6 units Kingston 240GB A400 from different Shoppee & Lazada vendors. All local sellers. All are genuine. In fact the first time i bought was RM202 with codes. The last was RM180 without codes. All are used to update my 2 laptops and relatives old laptops. The best lowest cost upgrade ever!!!!
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Unker behind time. What are codes?
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i got a M2 SSD 128gb to let go, anyone interested pls pm me
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QUOTE(joe_mamak @ Jul 25 2018, 10:42 PM)
Unker behind time.  What are codes?
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That time i bought with lazada discount code. Shoppe i bought with their coins for a few bucks less. Some has in house promo codes. I wasn't looking at 480GB drives because wanna spend as little as possible.

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post Jul 25 2018, 10:48 PM

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Unker behind time.  What are codes?
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QUOTE(netmatrix @ Jul 25 2018, 10:47 PM)
That time i bought with lazada discount code. Shoppe i bought with their coins for a few bucks less. Some has in house promo codes. I wasn't looking at 480GB drives because wanna spend as little as possible.
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QUOTE(Archemedia @ Jul 25 2018, 10:48 PM)
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LOL. Thanks. I get it now. I thought what code.
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QUOTE(Doraku @ Jul 25 2018, 10:41 PM)
I dont think so,By storing more bit in every cell you decrease the NAND performance and endurance

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True... But those TLC/QLC type of SSD increase storage sizes to overcome this problem.

the latest & thelargest QLC SSD is 128TB by Samseng...
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QUOTE(Archemedia @ Jul 25 2018, 10:04 PM)
Just a few months ago i bought a 480GB Kingston A400 @ RM466
now market price for this SSD is only around RM300
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After over 20 years in operation, Western Digital Corporation announced that it will be shutting down its HDD (hard disk drive) manufacturing facility in Petaling Jaya, Selangor, by the end of 2019.

Western Digital (Malaysia) Sdn Bhd Managing Director Gouw Kim San says that the move is in response to the declining demand for HDDs in the long-term.

“Western Digital Corporation is continually evaluating and transforming its business to deliver value to customers and remain competitive as a data technology leader. This transformation requires that the company take difficult but important actions, including optimisation of its large-scale manufacturing facilities located throughout Asia,” he said in a statement.

US-based Western Digital entered Malaysia in 1973, initially making custom semiconductors before transitioning to manufacturing hard drives. In 2011, a US$1.2bil (RM4.8bil) research and development facility was added to the 92,903sq m manufacturing plant in PJ.

The shutdown will not eliminate Western Digital’s presence in Malaysia altogether, as the company still has manufacturing sites in Johor and Sarawak.
Gouw stated that Western Digital will shift its focus from HDD to SDD (solid state drive) and NAND flash production in Malaysia, with plans to expand its SSD manufacturing plant in Penang.

“The company is in the final stages of commissioning its second SSD facility in Penang, which will go into production in the coming months,” he said.


Western Digital will retain a Center of Excellence in Selangor, housing several key engineering teams, core operational planning and regional support functions. Employees impacted by this move will receive assistance, including severance compensation and upskilling support.

“Western Digital remains firmly committed to Malaysia. The company values and appreciates its 45-year history of partnership with the Malaysian Government and looks forward to many more years of shared prosperity and success,” said Gouw.

This isn’t the first time a US-based disk storage solutions company shutdown its major manufacturing facilities in Malaysia. Last year, Seagate Technology closed its factories in Penang and Negri Sembilan after over 20 years of operation in this country. Seagate also attributed the closures to low demands of HDDs on a global scale.
Read more at https://www.thestar.com.my/tech/tech-news/2...2Y3FQu7pciQo.99

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post Jul 25 2018, 10:53 PM

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QUOTE(Lumiaaa @ Jul 25 2018, 10:51 PM)
After over 20 years in operation, Western Digital Corporation announced that it will be shutting down its HDD (hard disk drive) manufacturing facility in Petaling Jaya, Selangor, by the end of 2019.

Western Digital (Malaysia) Sdn Bhd Managing Director Gouw Kim San says that the move is in response to the declining demand for HDDs in the long-term.

“Western Digital Corporation is continually evaluating and transforming its business to deliver value to customers and remain competitive as a data technology leader. This transformation requires that the company take difficult but important actions, including optimisation of its large-scale manufacturing facilities located throughout Asia,” he said in a statement.

US-based Western Digital entered Malaysia in 1973, initially making custom semiconductors before transitioning to manufacturing hard drives. In 2011, a US$1.2bil (RM4.8bil) research and development facility was added to the 92,903sq m manufacturing plant in PJ.

The shutdown will not eliminate Western Digital’s presence in Malaysia altogether, as the company still has manufacturing sites in Johor and Sarawak.
Gouw stated that Western Digital will shift its focus from HDD to SDD (solid state drive) and NAND flash production in Malaysia, with plans to expand its SSD manufacturing plant in Penang.

“The company is in the final stages of commissioning its second SSD facility in Penang, which will go into production in the coming months,” he said.


Western Digital will retain a Center of Excellence in Selangor, housing several key engineering teams, core operational planning and regional support functions. Employees impacted by this move will receive assistance, including severance compensation and upskilling support.

“Western Digital remains firmly committed to Malaysia. The company values and appreciates its 45-year history of partnership with the Malaysian Government and looks forward to many more years of shared prosperity and success,” said Gouw.

This isn’t the first time a US-based disk storage solutions company shutdown its major manufacturing facilities in Malaysia. Last year, Seagate Technology closed its factories in Penang and Negri Sembilan after over 20 years of operation in this country. Seagate also attributed the closures to low demands of HDDs on a global scale.
Read more at https://www.thestar.com.my/tech/tech-news/2...2Y3FQu7pciQo.99
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West.D & Seagate are slow poke... laugh.gif
Samseng already the world largest SSD manufacturer.
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QUOTE(Lumiaaa @ Jul 25 2018, 10:51 PM)
After over 20 years in operation, Western Digital Corporation announced that it will be shutting down its HDD (hard disk drive) manufacturing facility in Petaling Jaya, Selangor, by the end of 2019.

Western Digital (Malaysia) Sdn Bhd Managing Director Gouw Kim San says that the move is in response to the declining demand for HDDs in the long-term.

“Western Digital Corporation is continually evaluating and transforming its business to deliver value to customers and remain competitive as a data technology leader. This transformation requires that the company take difficult but important actions, including optimisation of its large-scale manufacturing facilities located throughout Asia,” he said in a statement.

US-based Western Digital entered Malaysia in 1973, initially making custom semiconductors before transitioning to manufacturing hard drives. In 2011, a US$1.2bil (RM4.8bil) research and development facility was added to the 92,903sq m manufacturing plant in PJ.

The shutdown will not eliminate Western Digital’s presence in Malaysia altogether, as the company still has manufacturing sites in Johor and Sarawak.
Gouw stated that Western Digital will shift its focus from HDD to SDD (solid state drive) and NAND flash production in Malaysia, with plans to expand its SSD manufacturing plant in Penang.

“The company is in the final stages of commissioning its second SSD facility in Penang, which will go into production in the coming months,” he said.


Western Digital will retain a Center of Excellence in Selangor, housing several key engineering teams, core operational planning and regional support functions. Employees impacted by this move will receive assistance, including severance compensation and upskilling support.

“Western Digital remains firmly committed to Malaysia. The company values and appreciates its 45-year history of partnership with the Malaysian Government and looks forward to many more years of shared prosperity and success,” said Gouw.

This isn’t the first time a US-based disk storage solutions company shutdown its major manufacturing facilities in Malaysia. Last year, Seagate Technology closed its factories in Penang and Negri Sembilan after over 20 years of operation in this country. Seagate also attributed the closures to low demands of HDDs on a global scale.
Read more at https://www.thestar.com.my/tech/tech-news/2...2Y3FQu7pciQo.99
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WD factory produce kingston SSDs as well?
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QUOTE(Archemedia @ Jul 25 2018, 11:04 PM)
Just a few months ago i bought a 480GB Kingston A400 @ RM466
now market price for this SSD is only around RM300
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Not so straight forward as it seems.

CHINA has now the capacity to make their own SSD.

see.... https://www.aliexpress.com/wholesale?catId=...&SearchText=ssd

Thus breaking the monopoly of the big players.... Samsung, Scandisk and Kingston.

To retaliate , these companies have decided to DUMP prices to stuff out these new players from CHINA.

PLUS using the new 3d storage tech which they have developed , they have DUMP prices of the higher capacity SSD, thus making smaller SSD cheaper.

GOOD for CONSUMERS !!!! rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif

................................................................................

Hope they start making GPU ...... Prices now is really crazy ... rclxub.gif rclxub.gif rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(HMMaster @ Jul 25 2018, 10:56 PM)
still waiting for RAM price to drop... the current level is just ridiculous.
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QUOTE(Lumiaaa @ Jul 25 2018, 10:51 PM)
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NAND/SSD producers are expanding like mad.

Apart from building 2nd factory, for WD-Sandisk, a subcon also build another factory to support the SSD assembly
Toshiba (in collaboration with WDC) is also expanding/build new fab
Micron recently expanding NAND Fab in Woodlands and massive hiring for Engineers in Bendemeer Rd, SG.
Intel is expanding the Dalian Fab to support NAND Production

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QUOTE(Doraku @ Jul 25 2018, 11:41 PM)
I dont think so,By storing more bit in every cell you decrease the NAND performance and endurance

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I buy SSD 250gb for OS only so it be last longer
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QUOTE(oldies1950 @ Jul 25 2018, 10:59 PM)
Not so straight forward as it seems.

CHINA has now the capacity to make their own SSD.

see.... https://www.aliexpress.com/wholesale?catId=...&SearchText=ssd

Thus breaking the monopoly of the big players.... Samsung, Scandisk and Kingston.

To retaliate , these companies have decided to DUMP prices to stuff out these new players from CHINA.

PLUS using the new 3d storage tech which they have developed , they have DUMP prices of the higher capacity SSD, thus making smaller SSD cheaper.

GOOD for CONSUMERS !!!!  rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif

................................................................................

Hope they start making GPU ...... Prices now is really crazy ... rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif
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wow good info
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QUOTE(Doraku @ Jul 25 2018, 11:00 PM)
Me too cry.gif RAM so expensive right now even 8GB ram cost about RM350++
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Last time 4GB RM65 only... (DDR3 la)
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sata noob la, now use nvme ledi
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QUOTE(Marcion @ Jul 25 2018, 11:03 PM)
I buy SSD 250gb for OS only so it be last longer
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Be sure to leave free space at least10% or else you will kill your ssd faster

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Last time 4GB RM65 only... (DDR3 la)
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Be sure to leave free space at least10% or else you will kill your ssd faster
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got 67% free so can be no problem , is just for OS. the program/games/data are store on HDD
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QUOTE(yhsiau @ Jul 25 2018, 10:53 PM)
Samseng already the world largest SSD manufacturer.
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QUOTE(oldies1950 @ Jul 25 2018, 10:59 PM)
Not so straight forward as it seems.

CHINA has now the capacity to make their own SSD.

see.... https://www.aliexpress.com/wholesale?catId=...&SearchText=ssd

Thus breaking the monopoly of the big players.... Samsung, Scandisk and Kingston.

To retaliate , these companies have decided to DUMP prices to stuff out these new players from CHINA.

PLUS using the new 3d storage tech which they have developed , they have DUMP prices of the higher capacity SSD, thus making smaller SSD cheaper.

GOOD for CONSUMERS !!!!  rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif

................................................................................

Hope they start making GPU ...... Prices now is really crazy ... rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif
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China (not Taiwan) is still relying on Tsinghua Unigroup to tap into NAND market.

Main OEMs like Samsung/Intel/Micron/sandisk don't throw their reject NANDs into garbage bins.
These NANDs are low binned. i.e some parts don't work/low reliability/bad performance/ etc. Kinda like how i7 get binned into Pentium chips. They might be the same die, but performance is different.

Depending on the agreement, the original laser mark is either erased and then lasered with these manufacturer's own, or allowed to use back the same markings. That's why u see some of these cheapo SSDs have Intel NAND markings. They are indeed Intel NANDs, just low binned stuff.


I'd buy the cheapest SSD from major OEMs before I will touch these.

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i bought 12 kingston SSD 256gb and all good until today, 4 years passed.
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120gb how much now?
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I see lowest in shopee RM97. Kingston
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QUOTE(netmatrix @ Jul 25 2018, 10:21 PM)
I bought 6 units Kingston 240GB A400 from different Shoppee & Lazada vendors. All local sellers. All are genuine. In fact the first time i bought was RM202 with codes. The last was RM180 without codes. All are used to update my 2 laptops and relatives old laptops. The best lowest cost upgrade ever!!!!
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why do you have so many laptops
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QUOTE(Archemedia @ Jul 25 2018, 10:04 PM)
Just a few months ago i bought a 480GB Kingston A400 @ RM466
now market price for this SSD is only around RM300
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clearing old gen stock perhaps..

A400 is known for short lifespan.. not that it matter much when it's this cheap..

among the reasons for the cheap pricing is because it uses Toshiba 2D Planar 15nm TLC NAND

the mid-to-high end SSDs usually use 64-layer 3D TLC NAND, V-NAND-based NVMe SSD, etc etc... wayyyy faster and longer lifespan..

it's still a good purchase for those of you who haven't tried any SSD before

A400 still significantly faster than your mechanical HDD

just monitor their health from time to time, like i said, they're known for short lifespan

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Considering how some games are like 60gb these days, this is a godsend.
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Cheaper due to lower quality.
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QUOTE(derthvadar @ Jul 25 2018, 11:53 PM)
Cheaper due to lower quality.
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QUOTE(Doraku @ Jul 25 2018, 10:41 PM)
I dont think so,By storing more bit in every cell you decrease the NAND performance and endurance

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to alot people, we dont care much about drive endurance
if i got option of 2TB TLC drive or 1TB MLC drive at nearly the same price, I will be happy to choose the TLC drive.
its not like during the infant period of SSD when the storage is around 60GB, of course that time endurance is a concern because you are going to erase and re-write your data alot.

here is my 3years old SSD stat and I use it as torrent transit drive biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(kerolzarmyfanboy @ Jul 25 2018, 11:49 PM)
clearing old gen stock perhaps..

A400 is known for short lifespan.. not that it matter much when it's this cheap..

among the reasons for the cheap pricing is because it uses Toshiba 2D Planar 15nm TLC NAND

the mid-to-high end SSDs usually use 64-layer 3D TLC NAND, V-NAND-based NVMe SSD, etc etc... wayyyy faster and longer lifespan..

it's still a good purchase for those of you who haven't tried any SSD before

A400 still significantly faster than your mechanical HDD

just monitor their health from time to time, like i said, they're known for short lifespan
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What brand do you recommend then, for cheap but better quality SSD?
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QUOTE(big1 @ Jul 25 2018, 10:12 PM)
i dont need more than 256gb

so i got a 2tb today brows.gif
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QUOTE(fluotone @ Jul 26 2018, 12:05 AM)
Thanks TS just got 480gb for under 300. thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(dotadellpro @ Jul 26 2018, 12:01 AM)
What brand do you recommend then, for cheap but better quality SSD?
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can't think of anything aside from Samsung ones actually... sweat.gif

look into Samsung 860 Evo

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QUOTE(kerolzarmyfanboy @ Jul 26 2018, 12:12 AM)
can't think of anything aside from Samsung ones actually...  sweat.gif

look into Samsung 860 Evo
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Crucial MX500

either this or pay premium for Samsung Evo 860.

rest like Kingston all.. good luck.
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QUOTE(dotadellpro @ Jul 26 2018, 12:01 AM)
What brand do you recommend then, for cheap but better quality SSD?
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crucial mx500 gets my vote, somemmore with 5 years warranty thumbsup.gif

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QUOTE(judehow @ Jul 26 2018, 12:02 AM)
So what inside ur 2tb hdd lol
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QUOTE(kerolzarmyfanboy @ Jul 26 2018, 12:12 AM)
can't think of anything aside from Samsung ones actually...  sweat.gif

look into Samsung 860 Evo
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QUOTE(Eralus @ Jul 26 2018, 12:16 AM)
samsung evo 860 evo
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QUOTE(teehk_tee @ Jul 26 2018, 12:15 AM)
Crucial MX500

either this or pay premium for Samsung Evo 860.

rest like Kingston all.. good luck.
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QUOTE(zerorating @ Jul 26 2018, 12:16 AM)
crucial mx500 gets my vote, somemmore with 5 years warranty  thumbsup.gif
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I search in Lazada

Both also not that cheap...

RM300++ for 250GB...

I guess I wait a little longer...
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QUOTE(dotadellpro @ Jul 26 2018, 12:26 AM)
I search in Lazada

Both also not that cheap...

RM300++ for 250GB...

I guess I wait a little longer...
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well, these two (Crucial & Samsung) aren't your entry-level brands like Kingston/Apacer.

each have their own market.
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yup, unlike other platforms, Shopee will hold your money first until you confirm you receive the product and in good condition. That's what i like about shopee, refund process is easy too, if u buy product from china seller just send back to Shopee office they will process the refund
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QUOTE(joe_mamak @ Jul 25 2018, 11:49 PM)
LOL.  Thanks.  I get it now.  I thought what code.
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after apply code is RM283 for 480gb A400 kingston ssd
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What's the pro and cons of the 480gb SSD? My 120GB SSD can use some more space.
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QUOTE(Archemedia @ Jul 25 2018, 10:04 PM)
Just a few months ago i bought a 480GB Kingston A400 @ RM466
now market price for this SSD is only around RM300
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memory price dropping mah
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QUOTE(ashburn98 @ Jul 26 2018, 07:47 AM)
What's the pro and cons of the 480gb SSD? My 120GB SSD can use some more space.
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Pro? More space.

Con? More money.
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QUOTE(kerolzarmyfanboy @ Jul 25 2018, 11:49 PM)
clearing old gen stock perhaps..

A400 is known for short lifespan.. not that it matter much when it's this cheap..

among the reasons for the cheap pricing is because it uses Toshiba 2D Planar 15nm TLC NAND

the mid-to-high end SSDs usually use 64-layer 3D TLC NAND, V-NAND-based NVMe SSD, etc etc... wayyyy faster and longer lifespan..

it's still a good purchase for those of you who haven't tried any SSD before

A400 still significantly faster than your mechanical HDD

just monitor their health from time to time, like i said, they're known for short lifespan
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What about the UV500? it's using 3D TLC, will it be better?
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QUOTE(Doraku @ Jul 25 2018, 11:00 PM)
Me too cry.gif RAM so expensive right now even 8GB ram cost about RM350++
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QUOTE(salimbest83 @ Jul 26 2018, 08:26 AM)
still remember buying 16 gb ram for just rm52 per 4gb stick.. damm. that time really siyok
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is it high performance or standard ram?

maybe his 8GB ram is high performance one.. sweat.gif
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QUOTE(myteam94 @ Jul 26 2018, 08:34 AM)
is it high performance or standard ram?

maybe his 8GB ram is high performance one.. sweat.gif
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SSD if can get 500gb...the more space used up the read/write speed drop, after clearing back up some space the read/write speed goes back up.. nowadays 1 game also around 20-30gb already.
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QUOTE(salimbest83 @ Jul 26 2018, 08:26 AM)
still remember buying 16 gb ram for just rm52 per 4gb stick.. damm. that time really siyok
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Wow when was that? When 1UsD to rm3?
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is it high performance or standard ram?

maybe his 8GB ram is high performance one.. sweat.gif
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Wow when was that? When 1UsD to rm3?
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QUOTE(myteam94 @ Jul 26 2018, 08:34 AM)
is it high performance or standard ram?

maybe his 8GB ram is high performance one.. sweat.gif
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almost same. blue hyperx tat time less than 100
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possible. i bought 105 8gb

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QUOTE(ashburn98 @ Jul 26 2018, 07:47 AM)
What's the pro and cons of the 480gb SSD? My 120GB SSD can use some more space.
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Apply to both HDD and SSD:
You will have a bad 480GB drive if it goes bad compare to having a bad 120GB drive biggrin.gif
4 x 120GB drice will have less chance of having 480GB bad drive at any instance.


HDD vs SSD
Bad HDD, most likely you will recover data because the data in on platter
Bad SSD, you are on your luck smile.gif
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QUOTE(salimbest83 @ Jul 26 2018, 08:56 AM)
yeah i got the blue hyperx that time
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cost almost rm200 (about rm150 and above) at lowyat

bought in 2014 (i heard it launch that year also)
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Dayum... now is time for SSD huh?
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Why must keep some space in the SSD? can do this by leaving some unallocated partition space for the SSD?

so cheap. i bot 860 evo last 1-2 months for RM350. but only use the SATA2 port. Using old socket 775 core2 duo motherboard.


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I just did some preliminary research into nvme, how do i know if my system is compatible with it if I want to use it as boot drive?
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QUOTE(kurtkob78 @ Jul 26 2018, 09:51 AM)
Why must keep some space in the SSD? can do this by leaving some unallocated partition space for the SSD?

so cheap. i bot 860 evo last 1-2 months for RM350. but only use the SATA2 port. Using old socket 775 core2 duo motherboard.
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There's a rule stating that you should keep more than 15-20% empty (unallocated, unformatted) so that it can maintain in performance mode (fast garbage collection) instead of storage mode

This is called over-provisioning.

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In practice, an SSD’s performance begins to decline after it reaches about 50% full. This is why some manufacturers reduce the amount of capacity available to the user and set it aside as additional over-provisioning. For example, a manufacturer might reserve 28 out of 128GB and market the resulting configuration as a 100GB SSD with 28% over-provisioning. In actuality, this 28% is in addition to the built-in 7.37%, so it’s good to be aware of how vendors toss these terms around. Users should also consider that an SSD in service is rarely completely full. SSDs take advantage of this unused capacity, dynamically using it as additional over-provisioning.

Some SSD manufacturers provide software tools to allow for over-provisioning of drives by the user. Actually, even without special software, any user can set aside a portion of the SSD when first setting it up in the system by creating a partition that does not use the drive’s full capacity. This unclaimed space will automatically be used by the controller as dynamic over-provisioning.

There is one obvious drawback to over-provisioning: the more unused capacity one reserves to increase writing speeds, the less capacity there is for storage. With hard drives, the somewhat similar practice of short stroking, which confines reads and writes to the fastest outer tracks of the drive platters, is less penalizing because the cost per gigabyte is lower with magnetic media. At $1 to $3 per gigabyte for enterprise-class SSDs, the decision to give up 25% or more of a drive’s capacity becomes more difficult. There had better be some real benefit when giving up those expensive bytes!
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QUOTE(ashburn98 @ Jul 26 2018, 07:47 AM)
What's the pro and cons of the 480gb SSD? My 120GB SSD can use some more space.
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bigger sized SSD has much faster read/write speed
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QUOTE(jerm57 @ Jul 26 2018, 10:02 AM)
I just did some preliminary research into nvme, how do i know if my system is compatible with it if I want to use it as boot drive?
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as long as you have a pci-e slot,i think should be fine

QUOTE(VanDriverRocks @ Jul 26 2018, 10:06 AM)
lazada and 11street is the same.. but lazada is two weeks.
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idk how lazada/11street are now bcs havent used for a long time, like last time lazada didnt even have option to chat with seller ... shopee is the first one to implement
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QUOTE(Wakanda Forever @ Jul 26 2018, 07:40 AM)
I have the exact same SSD too, but I bought it early, it came in plastic case instead of metal one. It is still good as new till today (never used more than half of its space).

But given the choice of MLC vs TLC, I will choose MLC any time any day. There are reason MLC costing a premium over TLC of same size. TLC if same size easily have endurance only one tenth of what MLC can offer. For storage you want something as long lasting as possible. But nowadays it’s VNAND era, VNAND TLC is an acceptable compromise that have an endurance closer to conventional MLC. The endurance for VNAND MLC should on theory be over the roof, LOL.
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Over-exaggerated, the endurance is like 1/3 of MLC
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QUOTE(Archemedia @ Jul 25 2018, 10:04 PM)
Just a few months ago i bought a 480GB Kingston A400 @ RM466
now market price for this SSD is only around RM300
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You don't need to open new thread for such low end SSD. .
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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Jul 26 2018, 10:32 AM)
You don't need to open new thread for such low end SSD. .
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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Jul 26 2018, 10:32 AM)
You don't need to open new thread for such low end SSD. .
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QUOTE(Wakanda Forever @ Jul 26 2018, 07:40 AM)
I have the exact same SSD too, but I bought it early, it came in plastic case instead of metal one. It is still good as new till today (never used more than half of its space).

But given the choice of MLC vs TLC, I will choose MLC any time any day. There are reason MLC costing a premium over TLC of same size. TLC if same size easily have endurance only one tenth of what MLC can offer. For storage you want something as long lasting as possible. But nowadays it’s VNAND era, VNAND TLC is an acceptable compromise that have an endurance closer to conventional MLC. The endurance for VNAND MLC should on theory be over the roof, LOL.
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if you want long lasting, buy the enterprise kingston DC400 one which cost RM900+
still no guarantee it won't fail anytime though
but no matter what drive you use, if you don't backup your drive ... what's the point?
i backup my stuff weekly to external drive and have file history turned on to backup to my 2nd internal drive

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QUOTE(zerorating @ Jul 26 2018, 12:00 AM)
here is my 3years old SSD stat and I use it as torrent transit drive  biggrin.gif
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what software is that? i need to check my ssd life expectancy, bought 5 yrs back


QUOTE(ak101ss @ Jul 26 2018, 10:22 AM)
There's a rule stating that you should keep more than 15-20% empty (unallocated, unformatted) so that it can maintain in performance mode (fast garbage collection) instead of storage mode
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wah this one sure rugi space even 20gb for a 120gb one
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this one seems good
https://shopee.com.my/Kingston-A1000-SSD-24...4247.1233334327
240GB — up to 1,500/800MB/s
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avoid kingston ssd 120gb

two times claimed warranty in two years
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QUOTE(DanialTan1990 @ Jul 26 2018, 11:01 AM)
avoid kingston ssd 120gb

two times claimed warranty in two years
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hmm... so, Kingston SSD also not good like their usb drive? sweat.gif

Kingston USB drive was very good, but not anymore.
I still have working 1gb data traveler bought in 2006.

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QUOTE(Ameerzs @ Jul 25 2018, 10:17 PM)
sata already outdated, nvme pcie all the way
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Looks like it's only happening to entry level SSD. SanDisk SSD plus is also cheaper since last week.
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QUOTE(warpig @ Jul 26 2018, 11:13 AM)
yeah, and some drop becoz those company get fined for price fixing earlier
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Price fixing allegation is only on DRAM. Not NAND memories used in SSD
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price in market down, yes
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QUOTE(SliparJepun @ Jul 26 2018, 11:09 AM)
hmm... so, Kingston SSD also not good like their usb drive?  sweat.gif

Kingston USB drive was very good, but not anymore.
I still have working 1gb data traveler bought in 2006.
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like many people mentioned.
Kingston is the lowest end.

lu mau reputable -> Crucial / Samsung.
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QUOTE(teehk_tee @ Jul 26 2018, 11:21 AM)
like many people mentioned.
Kingston is the lowest end.

lu mau reputable -> Crucial / Samsung.
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yes, currently using crucial SSD.
I havent bought anything from kingston aside from their RAM since 2014.
Sandisk more reliable.
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this one is actually cheap

https://shopee.com.my/SanDisk-Ultra-II-240G...7691.1235861640
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QUOTE(DanialTan1990 @ Jul 26 2018, 11:01 AM)
avoid kingston ssd 120gb

two times claimed warranty in two years
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Omg. I cannot accept that.

They should not even fail at all.

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QUOTE(ohman @ Jul 26 2018, 11:28 AM)
Omg. I cannot accept that.

They should not even fail at all.
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sometime those failure contributed by something else (e.g crap power supply). I have been using AVR with okay oni PSU for the past 6 years+ and I never had any electronic inside my computer broke down.

why I use AVR? alot of time TNB power supply is hitting more than 240volt and there is possibility there is voltage surges as well.

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SSD price drop. machem not bad.

15 May 2018 vs 24 July 2018 Compuzone

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dont know much about SSD Sata since i jump straight from hdd 5400rpm to m.2 pcie nvme ... try intel p760 series really good value for money

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Tlc can easily last more than 5 years for consumer. U are not enterprise user.stop worrying about ssd lifespan. For average user that write 10gb everyday tlc ssd can life up to 20years.so u probably already upgrade new hardware or die.
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QUOTE(warham @ Jul 26 2018, 07:51 AM)
What tlc mlc

And why if only 10% space left ssd will kill ssd?

Why cannot mass download or torrent in ssd?
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Any drive no matter hdd or ssd need 10% for better performance. And it wont kill ssd just short lifespans which is still longer than your most pc hardware. Who said cannot download with ssd?
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QUOTE(peja5081 @ Jul 26 2018, 12:08 PM)
Tlc can easily last more than 5 years for consumer. U are not enterprise user.stop worrying about ssd lifespan. For average user that write 10gb everyday tlc ssd can life up to 20years.so u probably already upgrade new hardware or die.
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So cheap now even a poorfag like me can afford one...YAHOOOOO! Will attempt to clone my C: drive to it this weekend.

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my corsair died after 5 years. in laptop usage.
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my corsair died after 5 years. in laptop usage.
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its usually the controller that died fast, not nand wan.
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Fresh install better than clone, especially if your previous drive isn’t SSD.
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Especially windows update and other main software.
I cloned my hdd to ssd.
Then bought an m2 pcie, clone from ssd to m2. Lel
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QUOTE(owikh84 @ Jul 26 2018, 01:00 PM)
I also bought this China 1TB SSD @ RM600, I think will be good for my game storage.

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What chipset?

P/S Thanks for sharing.

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I also bought this China 1TB SSD @ RM600, I think will be good for my game storage.

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might as well buy kingston A400 1TB at RM560 sweat.gif
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Fresh install better than clone, especially if your previous drive isn’t SSD.
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QUOTE(owikh84 @ Jul 26 2018, 01:00 PM)
I also bought this China 1TB SSD @ RM600, I think will be good for my game storage.

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QUOTE(peja5081 @ Jul 26 2018, 12:29 PM)
Well my intel died after 3years just after finish warranty while another one still ok after 5 years.there are many factor that coz short ssd lifspan.u just dont know when it will die no matter what nand it use.tlc,slc,mlc,etc
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QUOTE(Ichibanichi @ Jul 26 2018, 01:10 PM)
Fresh install very headache.
Especially windows update and other main software.
I cloned my hdd to ssd.
Then bought an m2 pcie, clone from ssd to m2. Lel
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What chipset?

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QUOTE(TheLegend27 @ Jul 26 2018, 01:15 PM)
might as well buy kingston A400 1TB at RM560 sweat.gif
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Spec sheet says INIC 6081 controller and TLC NANDs.
Wish A400 has 1TB capacity per drive.
Not enough SATA ports on my mobo liao, fully occupied by other HDDs + messy cables
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Most ssd drive maker has cloning software. Try search their official webpage
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Yup...I know that Kingston offers Acronis software...I was just curious as to what u used.
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Spec sheet says INIC 6081 controller and TLC NANDs.
Wish A400 has 1TB capacity per drive.
Not enough SATA ports on my mobo liao, fully occupied by other HDDs + messy cables
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Yup...I know that Kingston offers Acronis software...I was just curious as to what u used.
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To a avoid any risk of bad cloning, just use recommended software stated in the manual. After cloning, test the drive and if no issue, the software can easily uninstall.
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QUOTE(Ichibanichi @ Jul 26 2018, 01:55 PM)
Others have proprietary software. Free to use.
To a avoid any risk of bad cloning, just use recommended software stated in the manual. After cloning, test the drive and if no issue, the software can easily uninstall.
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bought a samsung evo 860 1TB for 235 USD including shipping which is about RM1000 off of Amazon, meanwhile shops here are still selling it for RM1.2 - 1.5k, only liloong sells for cheaper at RM1.1k.

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QUOTE(Ichibanichi @ Jul 26 2018, 01:10 PM)
Fresh install very headache.
Especially windows update and other main software.

I cloned my hdd to ssd.
Then bought an m2 pcie, clone from ssd to m2. Lel
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If you’re using the latest installer directly from Microsoft, you get all the updates pre-installed. For common software (Chrome, Skype etc), use Ninite.
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Depends whether you going to download the latest installer or still rely onto cd/dvd version.
Another issue is the reinstallation of antivirus. Nowdays most antivirus running background silent scan and kill. All of my crack file kena destroy cause i reinstall a new antivirus and forgotten to whitelist that specific folder.
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so the price will continue going down?
plan to buy end year
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Stronger RM = cheaper PC parts
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Just a few months ago i bought a 480GB Kingston A400 @ RM466
now market price for this SSD is only around RM300
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Is this SSD compatible with Macbook Pro Mid 2012 Non Retina?
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my friend changed his old macbook's drive to ssd and it works fine, not sure which year
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Depends whether you going to download the latest installer or still rely onto cd/dvd version.
Another issue is the reinstallation of antivirus. Nowdays most antivirus running background silent scan and kill. All of my crack file kena destroy cause i reinstall a new antivirus and forgotten to whitelist that specific folder.
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using norton, i can control the anti-virus *killing*

change to bitdefender, damn
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compatible with any 2.5 inch sata connection
my friend changed his old macbook's drive to ssd and it works fine, not sure which year
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Even samsung 860 500gb at first 800 now 600
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QUOTE(thxxht @ Jul 26 2018, 02:08 PM)
bought a samsung evo 860 1TB for 235 USD including shipping which is about RM1000 off of Amazon, meanwhile shops here are still selling it for RM1.2 - 1.5k, only liloong sells for cheaper at RM1.1k.
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Bought mine at 242 USD including shipping on early June. Annoyed though that the Samsung Magician software is not able to detect it as a genuine Samsung SSD as it is under Samsung US instead of Samsung SG. Did yours get the same issue?
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Just check the review for Kingston A400.....not bad
ya it cant fight high end model like samsung evo etc2 but price wise is so worth it
OS Drive = SSD, Data Drive = HDD ....winlioaaa
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any cheap nvme?
my current lappy only got one m2 slot , currenly using micron sata6..

the other laptop i have can put m2 + 2.5inch.
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QUOTE(Rubypoyo @ Jul 26 2018, 05:08 PM)
Just check the review for Kingston A400.....not bad
ya it cant fight high end model like samsung evo etc2 but price wise is so worth it
OS Drive = SSD, Data Drive = HDD ....winlioaaa
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Yup, i bought another one and converting my laptop's dvd drive to a disk bay using a caddy since i dont use the dvd drive

QUOTE(raimy_m9 @ Jul 26 2018, 05:08 PM)
any cheap nvme?
my current lappy only got one m2 slot , currenly using micron sata6..

the other laptop i have can put m2 + 2.5inch.
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how about the kingston a1000? around 900mb write speed and quite affordable
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SATA is the usual SATA cable lorr.
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Depends whether you going to download the latest installer or still rely onto cd/dvd version.
Another issue is the reinstallation of antivirus. Nowdays most antivirus running background silent scan and kill. All of my crack file kena destroy cause i reinstall a new antivirus and forgotten to whitelist that specific folder.
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still not cheap enough for the size. I think stick to HDD for my heavy duty desktop

may be until 480GB drop to <RM150
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QUOTE(ik3da @ Jul 26 2018, 05:02 PM)
Bought mine at 242 USD including shipping on early June. Annoyed though that the Samsung Magician software is not able to detect it as a genuine Samsung SSD as it is under Samsung US instead of Samsung SG. Did yours get the same issue?
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Yes I was able to get magician to recognize the 1tb drive, it was not able to detect the first time, so I just partition d the drive, copy some files into it, then reinstall magician, after a reboot it was able to control the drive, I was able to enable rapid mode too.
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QUOTE(thxxht @ Jul 27 2018, 09:15 AM)
Yes I was able to get magician to recognize the 1tb drive, it was not able to detect the first time, so I just partition d the drive, copy some files into it, then reinstall magician, after a reboot it was able to control the drive, I was able to enable rapid mode too.
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Hmmm, will try to give it a go again - had tried reinstallation but it didn't work. Thanks for the idea though, will try the reinstallation + reboot later.
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Hmmm, will try to give it a go again - had tried reinstallation but it didn't work. Thanks for the idea though, will try the reinstallation + reboot later.
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I'm using the 1TB for storage only though, I alraedy have a 960 EVO NVME for the boot drive and I'm not using any RAID mode (magician doesn't work with raid mode). So that might be the difference. Also noticed the 1TB drive is made in china instead of korea.
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QUOTE(thxxht @ Jul 27 2018, 09:57 AM)
I'm using the 1TB for storage only though, I alraedy have a 960 EVO NVME for the boot drive and I'm not using any RAID mode (magician doesn't work with raid mode). So that might be the difference. Also noticed  the 1TB drive is made in china instead of korea.
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I have another Evo SSD as boot and using the 1TB as storage also, no RAID as well. Ran some check on the SSD and it fits the Samsung US info but I can't recall China/Korea manufacturing though, will verify this. Fingers crossed that it works with Magician else a bit of a pity.
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if like really drop for the huge size SSD i.e 1tb..i plan to install it in my NAS

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if like really drop for the huge size SSD i.e 1tb..i plan to install it in my NAS
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Bro, for NAS is better use HDD, no point using SDD if just want to use to to save personal data.
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if like really drop for the huge size SSD i.e 1tb..i plan to install it in my NAS
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mechanical drives still best for value in terms of $ / gb, mechanical drives also last longer. I have a IDE drive that i still use from my college days 10+ years ago, they are tough as hell, so they are better for long term storage.

the NAS controller probably will die first long before a mechanical drive does.

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if like really drop for the huge size SSD i.e 1tb..i plan to install it in my NAS
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QUOTE(Rubypoyo @ Jul 27 2018, 10:27 AM)
Bro, for NAS is better use HDD, no point using SDD if just want to use to to save personal data.
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QUOTE(thxxht @ Jul 27 2018, 10:33 AM)
mechanical drives still best for value in terms of $ / gb, mechanical drives also last longer. I have a IDE drive that i still use from my college days 10+ years ago, they are tough as hell, so they are better for long term storage.

the NAS controller probably will die first long before a mechanical drive does.
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Even if you put the fastest SSD on the market today, you will still be limited to the network connectivity limitation of your NAS box.
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End of the day is it still worth taking the risk for this Kingston A400 series SSD? Since is so cheap?
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very cheap now. even lowyat has dropped price already
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Wrong dude. The price is due to no GST
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QUOTE(rockmadhavan @ Aug 2 2018, 03:05 AM)
3 years warranty bro. Worth it obviously
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but what about the failure rates? Is a pain in the @$$ to get it RMA and leaving a pc without OS to operate. but at RM 99 is a steal!
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but what about the failure rates? Is a pain in the @$$ to get it RMA and leaving a pc without OS to operate. but at RM 99 is a steal!
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Failure rates hdd is few times greater than ssd so no worries

Buy the 240gb bro. Less than rm200 is a steal
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QUOTE(evilsmile @ Aug 2 2018, 09:45 AM)
Failure rates hdd is few times greater than ssd so no worries

Buy the 240gb bro. Less than rm200 is a steal
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That’s the thing. 240gb variant just rm 175. A gap of mere rm 70 to gain another 120gb of space.

Still worry that this low end model A400. How bad can it be.
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QUOTE(Archemedia @ Jul 25 2018, 10:04 PM)
Just a few months ago i bought a 480GB Kingston A400 @ RM466
now market price for this SSD is only around RM300
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yeap, price went down for Sata SSD. but nvme and m.2 still expensive.
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yeap, price went down for Sata SSD. but nvme and m.2 still expensive.
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I'm running out of sata, and those useless 128/250gb SSD, need something around 500 atleast these days
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QUOTE(Revamperz @ Aug 2 2018, 10:13 AM)
kasi link la kawan

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kawan..ini link kasi you.. lol

https://shopee.com.my/100-Ori-KINGSTON-A400...98017.701966070
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Yup.

I'm running out of sata, and those useless 128/250gb SSD, need something around 500 atleast these days
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But I think 120gb enough. I’ve another pc using 120gb intel SSD 335 series, still left 66gb.
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ok placed order for a400 240gb on shopee
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QUOTE(salimbest83 @ Aug 7 2018, 02:32 PM)
ok placed order for a400 240gb on shopee
rm170 shipped.
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should have bought gigabutt ud pro for 195.
3d nand + dram.
although the a400 is almost as fast.
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should have bought gigabutt ud pro for 195.
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although the a400 is almost as fast.
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Damn this gigabyte disk is tempting. Faster than A400 i believe? With extra RM20
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I bought Kingston 480GB UV500 for RM355.

My second SSD so far. At this rate HDD really GG.

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Damn this gigabyte disk is tempting. Faster than A400 i believe? With extra RM20
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i've checked benchmarks, it's just a little faster.
but i know the a400 uses compression for faster transfer. compressed files will be slower.
i would go for gigabutt. it's 256GB, so the 16GB extra makes up for the rm20.
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nice, i have a plextor 240gb ssd that is still going strong for 5 years already,gonna need another budget ssd for other stuff. It's a pity that no local seller bring in anymore of this underrated brand.
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Confirm over supply since Jun.

https://epsnews.com/2018/06/01/nand-flash-o...d-prices-lower/

I think when SST comes after Aug, prices will rise back. So anyone wanna upgrade their slow laptop/ desktop better do it this month.
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I bought Kingston 480GB UV500 for RM355.

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QUOTE(netmatrix @ Aug 8 2018, 07:27 PM)
Confirm over supply since Jun.

https://epsnews.com/2018/06/01/nand-flash-o...d-prices-lower/

I think when SST comes after Aug, prices will rise back. So anyone wanna upgrade their slow laptop/ desktop better do it this month.
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SST not applicable for computer product, only GST. don be sohai
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SST not applicable for computer product, only GST. don be sohai
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QUOTE(netmatrix @ Aug 8 2018, 07:27 PM)
Confirm over supply since Jun.

https://epsnews.com/2018/06/01/nand-flash-o...d-prices-lower/

I think when SST comes after Aug, prices will rise back. So anyone wanna upgrade their slow laptop/ desktop better do it this month.
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sst does not cover computer storage according to doc published on government website

https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/4621569/all

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QUOTE(netmatrix @ Aug 8 2018, 07:54 PM)
We just wait & see. Big company suppliers already issued some letter about it. I'm not being sohai no sochai. But i'm sure i am not like you, satpai.  laugh.gif
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name those suppliers. time to claim some reward money biggrin.gif

anyway, i really think current government is too slow when trying to implement sst in september. even now has the exempt list finalized yet? later everything goes up in price bcos everyone is confused whether to charge or not, then it only got itself to blame.


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Nice. Might wanna swap my laptop dvd drive with this cheap ssd
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should have bought gigabutt ud pro for 195.
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although the a400 is almost as fast.
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Yeah. I read few review for both .. Finally opted for a 400

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QUOTE(shirohamada @ Aug 8 2018, 04:13 PM)
i've checked benchmarks, it's just a little faster.
but i know the a400 uses compression for faster transfer. compressed files will be slower.
i would go for gigabutt. it's 256GB, so the 16GB extra makes up for the rm20.
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Ah.. Forgot bout that..
Maybe will find buyer upstairs for my a400 when it arrived
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Ah.. Forgot bout that..
Maybe will find buyer upstairs for my a400 when it arrived
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anyone know any good offer for external ssd drive 512gb? looking for below 500!

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come supuer cheap

https://shopee.com.my/Kingston-A400-120GB--...4247.1175822039
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Lol, nice. Later post disk benchmark. rclxms.gif
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anyone know any good offer for external ssd drive 512gb? looking for below 500!

tq
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Buy an external enclosure with USB C will do.
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Kingston A400 price dropped few months ago. It's TLC NAND, that's why it's cheap.
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Kingston A400 price dropped few months ago. It's TLC NAND, that's why it's cheap.
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somthing bad about this?
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somthing bad about this?
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somthing bad about this?
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SSD won't last long being used as scratch disk haha. laugh.gif
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Biar betul... I've just bought a few weeks ago with coupon and coins for RM290+ (ori price RM315) now RM290+ without codes and coins mega_shok.gif

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No more GST, confirm turun la.

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for the past 2 month..its more like Kingston SSD price dropped,
not other brands ..really misleading
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I'm thinking whether to get A400 as well, price is so tempting, any good experience here?
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QUOTE(Archemedia @ Jul 25 2018, 10:04 PM)
Just a few months ago i bought a 480GB Kingston A400 @ RM466
now market price for this SSD is only around RM300
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Fake ones?
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I'm thinking whether to get A400 as well, price is so tempting, any good experience here?
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just go ahead. Already bought a few units for myself and my buddies since the price sliding down earlier this year
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Nope, bought from Asashi
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https://www.mydigitaldiscount.com/everythin...nand-flash.html

No cheapo technology, found a newer way to further use a cell to store more data, instead of storing 1 or 2 bit in a single cell, they store 3 or 4 bit of data instead.

Good is can store more, cheaper hardware, bad is the cell being write twice more so life span is further cut by half.
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I'm thinking whether to get A400 as well, price is so tempting, any good experience here?
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YEAH got one.
not bad at all. way faster than HDD of coz
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QUOTE(Archemedia @ Jul 26 2018, 10:50 AM)
if you want long lasting, buy the enterprise kingston DC400 one which cost RM900+
still no guarantee it won't fail anytime though
but no matter what drive you use, if you don't backup your drive ... what's the point?
i backup my stuff weekly to external drive and have file history turned on to backup to my 2nd internal drive
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What software do you recommend for manual backup & sync ?
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In 2017 I bought 120GB ssd for RM240. Now I can find for half price.
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What software do you recommend for manual backup & sync ?
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Im using the one that came with my external HDD

QUOTE(T600 @ Sep 29 2018, 04:07 PM)
Ok, computer idiot here. Did you guys replace the laptop HDD with SSD?
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Ok, computer idiot here. Did you guys replace the laptop HDD with SSD?
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seen in shopee crucial MX500 500gb RM430 250gb RM269

looks like a good deal
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QUOTE(T600 @ Sep 29 2018, 04:36 PM)
After doing a bit of searching, seems like it worth the money, it decreases the program loading time, my issues is it took way too long to load the program such as photoshop, chrome (25-30sec first launch), adobe premiere etc. And playing a high bitrate videos files seems impossible, you will find VLC bar trying to keep up and the video play faster than it could load, talking about huge 1080p at 45mbps, hope with an SSD I no longer have to deal with this shit.
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It definitely is, and you wouldn't wanna stick to HDD after that.

Like what most of the techies out there would say, SSD is the holy grail in todays computing world.

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I have a 6 years old Acer laptop with i2760 processor and 640m graphic card. Is it worth to repair and add ssd?

Condition of the laptop pretty bad
>battery totally dead
>very fast overheat then shutdown
>can't connect to Wi-Fi anymore. If by lan cable after overhead also dead
>loading damn slow. This one probably can be overcome by replacing the old 1tb hdd with maybe 480gb ssd

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500GB: $140 ~ RM580
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QUOTE(yeapsc73 @ Sep 29 2018, 04:54 PM)
I have a 6 years old Acer laptop with i2760 processor and 640m graphic card.  Is it worth to repair and add ssd?

Condition of the laptop pretty bad
>battery totally dead
>very fast overheat then shutdown
>can't connect to Wi-Fi anymore. If by lan cable after overhead also dead
>loading damn slow. This one probably can be overcome by replacing the old 1tb hdd with maybe 480gb ssd
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The condition is too bad to repair. better buy another notebook.
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QUOTE(yeapsc73 @ Sep 29 2018, 04:54 PM)
I have a 6 years old Acer laptop with i2760 processor and 640m graphic card.  Is it worth to repair and add ssd?

Condition of the laptop pretty bad
>battery totally dead
>very fast overheat then shutdown
>can't connect to Wi-Fi anymore. If by lan cable after overhead also dead
>loading damn slow. This one probably can be overcome by replacing the old 1tb hdd with maybe 480gb ssd
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Only the highlighted one is a concern. Probably have very clogged up heatsink vent. If you can't do it, sent it to someone to do it. SSD is cheap enough that is is an awesome upgrade. I saw Kingston A400 240GB is going for RM 161 at shoppee. I think i saw Lazada RM179. If dun want to commit more than RM100 can find 120GB for less than RM100. Really ridiculous prices.
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120gb how much now?
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QUOTE(yeapsc73 @ Sep 29 2018, 04:54 PM)
I have a 6 years old Acer laptop with i2760 processor and 640m graphic card.  Is it worth to repair and add ssd?

Condition of the laptop pretty bad
>battery totally dead
>very fast overheat then shutdown
>can't connect to Wi-Fi anymore. If by lan cable after overhead also dead
>loading damn slow. This one probably can be overcome by replacing the old 1tb hdd with maybe 480gb ssd
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if u just surfing web and do light weight task at home without moving here and there, u can just clean it/change thermal paste and change ssd. Lan and battery not a problem is u not moving.

If the laptop really dead after bought ssd, u can take the ssd to do as external ssd or put it in ur new laptop/pc.
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QUOTE(kobanpro @ Sep 29 2018, 05:30 PM)
if u just surfing web and do light weight task at home without moving here and there, u can just clean it/change thermal paste and change ssd. Lan and battery not a problem is u not moving.

If the laptop really dead after bought ssd, u can take the ssd to do as external ssd or put it in ur new laptop/pc.
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How much to clean/change thermal paste? I have neither the knowledge nor the equipment to do myself
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QUOTE(Archemedia @ Jul 25 2018, 10:04 PM)
Just a few months ago i bought a 480GB Kingston A400 @ RM466
now market price for this SSD is only around RM300
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interface baru keluar. ttechnology masih sama
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just got nice deal from shopee code. RM 15 less
bought A400 240gb just RM137 shipped
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post Oct 9 2018, 12:37 PM

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QUOTE(salimbest83 @ Oct 9 2018, 12:31 PM)
just got nice deal from shopee code. RM 15 less
bought A400 240gb just RM137 shipped
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Best!! I just bought at RM158 for that. Still very low price.
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post Oct 9 2018, 12:49 PM

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QUOTE(netmatrix @ Sep 29 2018, 04:59 PM)
Only the highlighted one is a concern. Probably have very clogged up heatsink vent. If you can't do it, sent it to someone to do it. SSD is cheap enough that is is an awesome upgrade. I saw Kingston A400 240GB is going for RM 161 at shoppee. I think i saw Lazada RM179. If dun want to commit more than RM100 can find 120GB for less than RM100. Really ridiculous prices.
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my primary laptop (my sig) still running smooth. all thanks to SSD.

only problem is battry running down alreadt. Called dell, but they say my XPS is EOL.... sad....
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post Oct 9 2018, 12:50 PM

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QUOTE(schneck @ Oct 9 2018, 12:41 PM)
netmatrix the ssd in lazada particulary kingston 480gb that can fetch below rm300 is good deal or should wait for 11.11 event  hmm.gif
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I have no idea how low the price will go or maintained. But i have bought from both shopee & lazada before. Can you imagine just early this year i bought an A400 240 GB for RM208? Now is as low up to RM158. I'm not even complaining to upgrade old computers and laptops. laugh.gif
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post Oct 9 2018, 12:52 PM

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QUOTE(Ancient-XinG- @ Oct 9 2018, 12:49 PM)
my primary laptop (my sig) still running smooth. all thanks to SSD.

only problem is battry running down alreadt. Called dell, but they say my XPS is EOL.... sad....
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Can try bring IMBI and see if there are compatible replacement batteries for that. If your lappie is old and DELL wants RM500 for new batteries, just F them and buy outside.
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post Oct 9 2018, 12:53 PM

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QUOTE(netmatrix @ Oct 9 2018, 12:52 PM)
Can try bring IMBI and see if there are compatible replacement batteries for that. If your lappie is old and DELL wants RM500 for new batteries, just F them and buy outside.
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these day got something called...
AliExpress...
buy from there...
diy la...
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post Oct 9 2018, 12:54 PM

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QUOTE(Ancient-XinG- @ Oct 9 2018, 12:49 PM)
my primary laptop (my sig) still running smooth. all thanks to SSD.

only problem is battry running down alreadt. Called dell, but they say my XPS is EOL.... sad....
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as for battery, if the charging circuit still work, u can open and swap from good Li-Ion cell around
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post Oct 9 2018, 12:55 PM

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QUOTE(ikr99 @ Oct 9 2018, 12:53 PM)
these day got something called...
AliExpress...
buy from there...
diy la...
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my nicest idea is, buy mi 10000 powerbank and take samsung / panasonic cell from there
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post Oct 9 2018, 12:57 PM

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The lower the better. Just hope other also follow same..( yes i talking about graphic card)
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post Oct 9 2018, 01:00 PM

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QUOTE(schneck @ Oct 9 2018, 12:57 PM)
so you recommend kingston brand is it? what store you bought from?
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Kingston is like at least 30% cheaper than other brand.

if you scared the A400 not reliable, which is already 3yrs warranty. You can pay RM20-50 buy the UV500 SSD that come with 5yrs warranty. Both of these still last longer than a HDD.
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post Oct 9 2018, 01:03 PM

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QUOTE(netmatrix @ Oct 9 2018, 12:52 PM)
Can try bring IMBI and see if there are compatible replacement batteries for that. If your lappie is old and DELL wants RM500 for new batteries, just F them and buy outside.
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They actually told me the price is around 300 for a new batt including installation and all with warranty 1 year. But they asked parts department, end up no stock...
veli sad. But they give me the part model and ask me go out find myself.

QUOTE(ikr99 @ Oct 9 2018, 12:53 PM)
these day got something called...
AliExpress...
buy from there...
diy la...
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QUOTE(salimbest83 @ Oct 9 2018, 12:55 PM)
my nicest idea is, buy mi 10000 powerbank and take samsung / panasonic cell from there
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Will kaboom or not?
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post Oct 9 2018, 01:07 PM

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QUOTE(schneck @ Oct 9 2018, 01:01 PM)
If you already surf around and cannot find any lower priced one, thats the best deal you can get la. I saw most are starting to hit the most bottom price they can offer. Because like for RM1 or even 90 cents difference only. laugh.gif laugh.gif
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post Oct 9 2018, 01:12 PM

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QUOTE(yeapsc73 @ Sep 29 2018, 08:49 PM)
How much to clean/change thermal paste?  I have neither the knowledge nor the equipment to do myself
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thermal paste can get it from garage sales and then youtube to how do it
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post Oct 9 2018, 01:18 PM

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it just like how 256mb usb price down after 16gb usb drive is release.
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post Oct 9 2018, 03:02 PM

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QUOTE(schneck @ Oct 9 2018, 01:01 PM)
Yup. I bought a 240GB SSD from them too. Good service.
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post Oct 9 2018, 04:09 PM

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QUOTE(schneck @ Oct 9 2018, 04:06 PM)
How about 480gb model?
OK or not
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Should be fine lah. Anyways, Kingston is pretty steady brand and the product is covered by warranty.
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post Oct 9 2018, 04:15 PM

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QUOTE(jerm57 @ Oct 9 2018, 04:09 PM)
Should be fine lah. Anyways, Kingston is pretty steady brand and the product is covered by warranty.
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Kingston SSD got a bad name last time because they switched the components of their SSD while retaining the same name.

Basically their SSD had good speed and price, most reviewers also agree and recommended it. Later a lot of users complain cannot get speeds reviewers are getting. So reviewers buy retail to test and found that Kingston switched their components to slower one. So most reviewers retracted their recommendation and hentam Kingston for ' bait & switch' marketing.
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post Oct 9 2018, 04:16 PM

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Fark i saw this thread after i bot ssd. Damn it
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post Oct 9 2018, 04:19 PM

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QLC sure cheaper than SLC/MLC type of SSD.
New tech bring cheaper & larger capacity but shorter durability.
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post Oct 9 2018, 04:40 PM

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any reviews on Samsung 860 EVO?

is it worth the price?

I'm using laptop with single SATA slot, how will I clone windows?
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post Oct 9 2018, 05:35 PM

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QUOTE(kolokua @ Oct 9 2018, 04:40 PM)
any reviews on Samsung 860 EVO?

is it worth the price?

I'm using laptop with single SATA slot, how will I clone windows?
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Use a USB to sata converter cable, download samseng magician software to do ssd/hdd cloning.

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post Oct 9 2018, 05:55 PM

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QUOTE(schneck @ Oct 9 2018, 04:31 PM)
So now good or still remain the same in terms of switching components?
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As far as I know they haven't done the same 'bait and switch' anymore ever since they got called out for it.

So whatever they are selling now, should be as advertised.

But they are not a 'trusted' brand anymore.

Here is the article of what happen few years back.

https://www.anandtech.com/show/7763/an-upda...wer-micron-nand
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post Oct 9 2018, 06:02 PM

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Using Honey browser addon to Chrome, able to get 1Tb Samsung 860 Evo SSD for around RM800+ with shipment/taxes.

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post Oct 10 2018, 07:45 AM

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QUOTE(defaultname365 @ Oct 9 2018, 06:02 PM)
Using Honey browser addon to Chrome, able to get 1Tb Samsung 860 Evo SSD for around RM800+ with shipment/taxes.
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honey works on malaysia sites too?
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post Oct 10 2018, 07:48 AM

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low yat sell around rm280 for kingston 480gb
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post Oct 10 2018, 07:50 AM

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QUOTE(Eralus @ Jul 25 2018, 10:13 PM)
Waiting for ram and display card price to drop
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i waited for so long already sad.gif
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QUOTE(netmatrix @ Oct 9 2018, 01:07 PM)
If you already surf around and cannot find any lower priced one, thats the best deal you can get la. I saw most are starting to hit the most bottom price they can offer. Because like for RM1 or even 90 cents difference only.  laugh.gif  laugh.gif
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consider good lah

but it is kingston so no

still using my intel 535
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post Oct 10 2018, 08:07 AM

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Just bought myself a Crucial MX500 250GB for RM265.00. This brand is good or not compare to Kingston?
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QUOTE(salimbest83 @ Oct 10 2018, 07:45 AM)
honey works on malaysia sites too?
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Amazon US.. other websites also can but Amazon works best since got shipping to Malaysia.
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QUOTE(defaultname365 @ Oct 10 2018, 09:19 AM)
Amazon US.. other websites also can but Amazon works best since got shipping to Malaysia.
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most shipping i see 3-=40 rm
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QUOTE(chephren @ Oct 10 2018, 08:07 AM)
Just bought myself a Crucial MX500 250GB for RM265.00. This brand is good or not compare to Kingston?
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sudah beli baru tanya for what?
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post Oct 10 2018, 10:47 AM

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QUOTE(chephren @ Oct 10 2018, 08:07 AM)
Just bought myself a Crucial MX500 250GB for RM265.00. This brand is good or not compare to Kingston?
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Consider good. Kingston do not manufacture their own NAND chips and DRAM. Crucial is actually Micron and they manufacture both NAND and DRAM themselves. Kingston bought chips from 3rd party and assemble it. You can imagine. If i manufacture my own chips , i would definitely keep the best chips from binning process for myself rather than sell to my competitor.
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QUOTE(k!nex @ Oct 10 2018, 10:47 AM)
Consider good. Kingston do not manufacture their own NAND chips and DRAM.  Crucial is actually Micron and they manufacture both NAND and DRAM themselves.  Kingston bought chips from 3rd party and assemble it. You can imagine. If i manufacture my own chips , i would definitely keep the best chips from binning process for myself rather than sell to my competitor.
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Yes from paper you able to write down the difference.

But in real world usage amacam?
Like no different wor... Unless there is proven reliability performance between the two.
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QUOTE(0168257061 @ Oct 10 2018, 10:48 AM)
Yes from paper you able to write down the difference.

But in real world usage amacam?
Like no different wor... Unless there is proven reliability performance between the two.
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Somewhere back in 2014. Kingston was short of NAND chips for V300 model. Performance was very different if you get different batches because they use different NAND chips in tht model. So in order to fulfil market demand they simply buy their materials even subpar ones. Consumers fell cheated back then and tht case was widely known. Here
NAND manufacturers themselves that sell retail SSD will not hv such issue as stocks are always reserved for ownself as priority , got excess only sell to others.
So i would say, buy only Samsung , Crucial/Micron ,Sandisk/WD, Toshiba/OCZ , and Hynix. Dont buy from those dont manufacture their own NAND chips. You dont know what is " under the hood" as bill of materials can be different as they can buy from different supplier.
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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ Oct 10 2018, 10:35 AM)
sudah beli baru tanya for what?
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just for the peace of mind lorr


QUOTE(k!nex @ Oct 10 2018, 10:47 AM)
Consider good. Kingston do not manufacture their own NAND chips and DRAM.  Crucial is actually Micron and they manufacture both NAND and DRAM themselves.  Kingston bought chips from 3rd party and assemble it. You can imagine. If i manufacture my own chips , i would definitely keep the best chips from binning process for myself rather than sell to my competitor.
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thanks. i think the best is Samsung. Many people recommend but very expensive liao..
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QUOTE(chephren @ Oct 10 2018, 11:42 AM)
just for the peace of mind lorr
thanks. i think the best is Samsung. Many people recommend but very expensive liao..
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just bought samsung 970 evo m2 250gb last saturday rm500, current crucial mx500 sata ssd switch it to secondary storage for storing game folder.
also bought another kingston A400 480gb sata ssd for rm289, use it for secondary storage as well for download movies etc all data..
My old Western digital 7200rpm hard disk i took out, the drive is still working no problem, served me for 7 years++ already smile.gif

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QUOTE(yeapsc73 @ Sep 29 2018, 04:54 PM)
I have a 6 years old Acer laptop with i2760 processor and 640m graphic card.  Is it worth to repair and add ssd?

Condition of the laptop pretty bad
>battery totally dead
>very fast overheat then shutdown
>can't connect to Wi-Fi anymore. If by lan cable after overhead also dead
>loading damn slow. This one probably can be overcome by replacing the old 1tb hdd with maybe 480gb ssd
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almost same situation as u, I have an Acer laptop laying around. The fan stop working so it will shut down by itself when it's too hot.

For quick solution, u may try vacuum type laptop cooler, it cools my laptop quite efficiently.

U can change the internal fan also. I refer to to this video on how to open up the laptop, change the fan and reapply thermal compound. The fan can be bought cheaply in lelong.my



Quite some work there, lost a few screws, in the end the fan is working now but the laptop still gets quite hot without the vacuum laptop cooler. could be due to the thermal compound that i use, cheapest one by cooler master. sweat.gif
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QUOTE(chephren @ Oct 10 2018, 11:42 AM)
just for the peace of mind lorr
thanks. i think the best is Samsung. Many people recommend but very expensive liao..
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if we say samsing evo is the bestest, how?

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