Italian Clubs AS Roma - The Giallorossi Thread, Salah is official; Dzeko in Rome !
Italian Clubs AS Roma - The Giallorossi Thread, Salah is official; Dzeko in Rome !
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Jul 24 2011, 04:55 AM
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Bojan will be a good buy for Roma..
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Jul 26 2011, 12:47 PM
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Bojan got 14 as his number
![]() Menez is off to PSG for 8mil... kinda upset to see him go, but i think thats the best thing for both parties. and Stekelenburg to us is reportedly a done deal according to Sky... looks like we finally gonna hav a pair of reliable hands between the sticks. |
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Jul 26 2011, 05:01 PM
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Stekelenburg's price will be quite cheap right? Quite a bargain i think? I thought top clubs like arsenal would snap him.
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Jul 27 2011, 01:33 PM
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QUOTE(nshady @ Jul 26 2011, 05:01 PM) Stekelenburg's price will be quite cheap right? Quite a bargain i think? I thought top clubs like arsenal would snap him. he was pretty heavily linked with MU sometimes ago as a candidate to replace VDS, wasn't he ? anyway u guys got De Gea now already. The reportedly fee is ard 6mil plus some bonuses, which is a good deal. Mostly its bcoz he already decided to leave and his contract is expiring. I guess Ajax had no choice but to sell him rather than see him go as free agent. Latest is that he will have medical tomorrow and be presented on Friday... we'll see. |
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Jul 27 2011, 09:16 PM
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Watch live game triangular Roma vs PSG vs Wacker yesterday... Totti like exhausted or what? shooting also not precise anymore shot on goal. I only watch Roma vs PSG before switching to AC Milan vs Munchen. Same time lol.
Too many friendly game this week. |
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Jul 29 2011, 02:00 PM
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QUOTE(Chrisky @ Jul 27 2011, 01:33 PM) he was pretty heavily linked with MU sometimes ago as a candidate to replace VDS, wasn't he ? anyway u guys got De Gea now already. Yeps, we were linked to him as a replacement for VDS. But i think arsenal are linked to him as well. He is a quality goalkeeper and has good experiences(especially in world cup). I think 6 mil would be great.The reportedly fee is ard 6mil plus some bonuses, which is a good deal. Mostly its bcoz he already decided to leave and his contract is expiring. I guess Ajax had no choice but to sell him rather than see him go as free agent. Latest is that he will have medical tomorrow and be presented on Friday... we'll see. This post has been edited by nshady: Jul 29 2011, 02:01 PM |
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Jul 30 2011, 12:36 PM
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QUOTE(rEDs @ Jul 27 2011, 09:16 PM) Watch live game triangular Roma vs PSG vs Wacker yesterday... Totti like exhausted or what? shooting also not precise anymore shot on goal. I only watch Roma vs PSG before switching to AC Milan vs Munchen. Same time lol. didnt watch it, but i heard it was a mess n we played like crap. oh well. Too many friendly game this week. QUOTE(nshady @ Jul 29 2011, 02:00 PM) Yeps, we were linked to him as a replacement for VDS. But i think arsenal are linked to him as well. He is a quality goalkeeper and has good experiences(especially in world cup). I think 6 mil would be great. if his contract is any longer i'm sure the price will be at least double. anyway Ajax had announced the deal on their website and Stekelenburg himself is already in Rome for medical. ![]() someone handed him a Roma scarf right after he came out from the gate at the airport. |
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Jul 30 2011, 02:16 PM
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a gk, a bojan for 2 years, a few more outs...very2 very confusing signals indeed from the new management.
anyway its yet to be seen what will happend in the new season.one thing for sure the whole of serie a' is still out of sort.it will take a few years for the whole of italian football to recover tho i do hope the NT stays strong as euro 2012 is nearing. |
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Jul 30 2011, 02:29 PM
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QUOTE(mhyug @ Jul 30 2011, 02:16 PM) a gk, a bojan for 2 years, a few more outs...very2 very confusing signals indeed from the new management. players in and out happens in all clubs so what exactly is confusing there ? If there's no movement then I'll say thats confusing.anyway its yet to be seen what will happend in the new season.one thing for sure the whole of serie a' is still out of sort.it will take a few years for the whole of italian football to recover tho i do hope the NT stays strong as euro 2012 is nearing. the season is not even started so lets give the team some benefits of doubt. |
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Jul 31 2011, 02:21 AM
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QUOTE(Chrisky @ Jul 30 2011, 02:29 PM) players in and out happens in all clubs so what exactly is confusing there ? If there's no movement then I'll say thats confusing. players in and out is normal but what is not normal is when you expect the ones to leave not leaving, the ones arriving not arriving and the new management having not set some clear paths kohkoh the season is not even started so lets give the team some benefits of doubt. thats what i meant by confusing.the new owners seems mre confused then the sensi's back then.at least they had things under control even though they were broke and in debt |
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Jul 31 2011, 12:29 PM
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QUOTE(mhyug @ Jul 31 2011, 02:21 AM) players in and out is normal but what is not normal is when you expect the ones to leave not leaving, the ones arriving not arriving and the new management having not set some clear paths kohkoh Sensi having things under control ? lol seriously thats juz so wrong. We're a huge mess back then.thats what i meant by confusing.the new owners seems mre confused then the sensi's back then.at least they had things under control even though they were broke and in debt Its not the new management fault that we can't get rid of those old n washed up players. Yeah sure we all would LOVE to see the likes of Taddei, Loria, n Perrotta goes but u need to hav buyer to do that. Sensi management gave them some long term contracts with fat cheque, so unless any club that is willing to offer them the same kind of ridiculous deal, we're stuck with them. n dont even get me started on the Mexes thing. He and his agent had been crying out loud for talk of extension since laz year n yet what Sensi n Prade did ? ignore them while offer new deals to Perrotta and Cassetti. for me the intention of the new management rebuilding is clear as day. We got young n promising players in and also strengthen the GK position which had plague us for years. They didnt splash crazy cash on players like Pastore although we clearly wanted him. As a Romanista I'm satisfy with the progress so far. |
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Jul 31 2011, 01:34 PM
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QUOTE(Chrisky @ Jul 31 2011, 12:29 PM) Sensi having things under control ? lol seriously thats juz so wrong. We're a huge mess back then. actually if you look closely, sensi had some sort of control and gave the coach space and time but what they didint give him was funds.also they made sure the key players stayed(and im not referring to il capitano+de rossi only)Its not the new management fault that we can't get rid of those old n washed up players. Yeah sure we all would LOVE to see the likes of Taddei, Loria, n Perrotta goes but u need to hav buyer to do that. Sensi management gave them some long term contracts with fat cheque, so unless any club that is willing to offer them the same kind of ridiculous deal, we're stuck with them. n dont even get me started on the Mexes thing. He and his agent had been crying out loud for talk of extension since laz year n yet what Sensi n Prade did ? ignore them while offer new deals to Perrotta and Cassetti. for me the intention of the new management rebuilding is clear as day. We got young n promising players in and also strengthen the GK position which had plague us for years. They didnt splash crazy cash on players like Pastore although we clearly wanted him. As a Romanista I'm satisfy with the progress so far. as for the big fat checks, again wrong mate.roma are the lowest payers in the league.the only person making huge money is again il capitano.with the sensi's fans actually know they have a big debt and only cant provide funds, but as for objectives, running the club, setting targets they were clear on that front.roma wouldnt have won the things they won under them if it wasnt for their management albeit a lowya coffer. as for this new management so far we have seen some strentgh in them but for all the early talk weve still yet to see them look past under their nose.long term future still not on the table wch does raise some concerns.with todays volatile football scene mostly in its financial state i wonder how long de benedetto will take it.succes wont come in an instant.again dont take my post wrongly, im just having some doubts and NOT writing them off all together.its just that some of their moves(not the trasfers alone) are in grey area, thats all. |
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Jul 31 2011, 02:49 PM
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QUOTE(mhyug @ Jul 31 2011, 01:34 PM) actually if you look closely, sensi had some sort of control and gave the coach space and time but what they didint give him was funds.also they made sure the key players stayed(and im not referring to il capitano+de rossi only) Make sure the key players stayed ? how can that to be true is beyond me unless u consider Doni, Taddei, Perrotta, etc as more important than the likes of Samuel, Mexes, Chivu, and Aquilani. Those players are gone mostly was because they simply refused to offer them extension or better contract.as for the big fat checks, again wrong mate.roma are the lowest payers in the league.the only person making huge money is again il capitano.with the sensi's fans actually know they have a big debt and only cant provide funds, but as for objectives, running the club, setting targets they were clear on that front.roma wouldnt have won the things they won under them if it wasnt for their management albeit a lowya coffer. as for this new management so far we have seen some strentgh in them but for all the early talk weve still yet to see them look past under their nose.long term future still not on the table wch does raise some concerns.with todays volatile football scene mostly in its financial state i wonder how long de benedetto will take it.succes wont come in an instant.again dont take my post wrongly, im just having some doubts and NOT writing them off all together.its just that some of their moves(not the trasfers alone) are in grey area, thats all. "Roma are the lowest payers in the league" <- thats simply not true unless u can prove me otherwise. I'm sure we the pay the most wages juz behind AC, Inter, and Juve as I had seem the chart from various sources. Baptista, Doni, Perrotta n some others are/were on ridiculous payroll considering their abilities and contributions on the fields. Those are juz simply bad business. u see, I'm not really hate Sensi, n i got nothing against them. Its ok for u to think they did a good job back then as u're entitled to ur own opinion, but I'm firm on my stand that the club is not gonna improve and be challenging again under their management, as the majority of Romanista out there will agree with me. |
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Jul 31 2011, 10:42 PM
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QUOTE "Roma are the lowest payers in the league" <- thats simply not true unless u can prove me otherwise. I'm sure we the pay the most wages juz behind AC, Inter, and Juve as I had seem the chart from various sources. Baptista, Doni, Perrotta n some others are/were on ridiculous payroll considering their abilities and contributions on the fields. Those are juz simply bad business. there you go.you posted the answer your self.we are still among the lowest if you consider the traditional top clubs in serie a. and as for the departures of aquilani, Chivu, well it cant be helped but roma did prove there is life after those 2 as roma was still the closest to inter.as for samuel he was gone either way.cant forget the fact the sensi's brought in some very good players now. as for romanisti's against the sensi's well thats all started when the back room started to get out of hand and thx for the press for stoking a fire at the same time.lets see what the ultra's say this time around when results isnt coming in a flash. my take roma' major problem is the board room, and the back room.coaches arent given enough power, while players are on abiggg ego.the unity wasnt there.spalletti left, then tinkerman.both very good coaches, took the club with vision and power but due to problems both became the black sheep. i think its fair to say this, the sensi did bring success to the club, brought to newer heights but along the way things didnt work out tho they did look promising, and now its lets see what this season cooks up in the capital with new owners new styles of doing things goes on about.will there be an air of uncertainty and doubt??there should be since none have seen what the future holds yet. This post has been edited by mhyug: Jul 31 2011, 10:52 PM |
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Aug 1 2011, 10:29 AM
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QUOTE(mhyug @ Jul 31 2011, 10:42 PM) there you go.you posted the answer your self.we are still among the lowest if you consider the traditional top clubs in serie a. I dont get u now. u claimed that i was wrong n that "roma are the lowest payers in the league", n now this. It seem to me that u're contradicting urself. And the main point is not about how much we pay for wages, its about the club had giving out high pay contracts too easily to players whose performance on the field did nothing to justify it. I certainly don't see the logic of extending Perrotta and Cassetti with improved paid, while allow Mexes to leave as a free agent.anyway enough with this already and I gonna rest my case. Lets juz focus on wat is going on from now. the agent of Lucho Gonzalez of Marseille claimed that he had talked to us regarding a possible transfer. Well I would welcome him as we certain need a good midfielder badly now. |
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Aug 1 2011, 03:53 PM
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QUOTE(Chrisky @ Aug 1 2011, 10:29 AM) I dont get u now. u claimed that i was wrong n that "roma are the lowest payers in the league", n now this. It seem to me that u're contradicting urself. And the main point is not about how much we pay for wages, its about the club had giving out high pay contracts too easily to players whose performance on the field did nothing to justify it. I certainly don't see the logic of extending Perrotta and Cassetti with improved paid, while allow Mexes to leave as a free agent. i think the confusion here is when i say "low".by low we cant totally disregard the status of roma and their players.thats what i meant by low.if those stars move they can get more and thats what i mean by low again you've posted a good example in mexes.all of the big/semi big to big name that weve got took a pay cut form their sides when joined.mainly the ones from bigger clubs.the only ones whom even noticed an increase (albeit still small)in pay checks would be the ones weve got at the youth level/retirement level.anyway enough with this already and I gonna rest my case. Lets juz focus on wat is going on from now. the agent of Lucho Gonzalez of Marseille claimed that he had talked to us regarding a possible transfer. Well I would welcome him as we certain need a good midfielder badly now. bcoz roma are paying low he went off.also by low please cant compare between the lower/mid table sides.we have that monetary power but were not paying crazy at the same time thus among the lowest when compared to clubs in our bracket.also im not contradicting my self mate. also when the club extended perotta/cassetti contract they werent given bumper pay ups.most is just couple of k's at the most for the total mind you, not weekly.and on the side note both of these guys are still good performs for roma. anyway chrisky im not saying youre wrong im right, also dont take it at the bad way were here just discussing things mate, no offence meant mate. |
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Aug 1 2011, 11:48 PM
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no worries dude, i always up for a good discussion.
the issue with Perrotta's and Cassetti's extension is not about they being offered the contract n got a pay rise, its about why are they being prioritized over a key player who is 1 of the most important part of the team. I can understand if the management did offered Mexes a contract n he rejected it as the others offer better, but the fact is they never do so. There was never any offer on the table for him. Also, Perrotta's wages went from 1.7mil to 2.5mil - hardly really 'juz a few k'. I find it hard justify a 33 years who performance is nowhere near the starter level to get such a rise. I'm fine with Cassetti since he actually did performed pretty well and consistent, but Perrotta had did nothing to be deserve this. |
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Aug 2 2011, 12:21 AM
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Mirko had officially joined Juve... oh dear why would we hav to sell him to a rival
n the fee of 15mil is just... low, considering how much those guys paid for players like Pepe. thanks for the memories, Mirko... especially the no-pant celebration |
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Aug 2 2011, 01:10 AM
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well 15mill wil go a long way they can find 2/3 good player out there and build a good core.
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Aug 2 2011, 11:30 PM
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Regarding Mexes,i think it must be hard to keep him. Milan is a huge club, i think besides the wages, other factors must have affected him to leave. Maybe he thinks by going to milan , the chances of winning silvewares is higher too. If u get what i mean. It's not roma is a small club, but you know the domination of the two milan clubs.
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