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post Aug 1 2018, 06:40 PM

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QUOTE(Ralna @ Aug 1 2018, 04:17 PM)
FYI,

I don't see that the only way to contribute to nation is just by working in the public sector, more esp. if the position is of lower rank/ bottom level of the hierarchy... what difference can that make to the nation? A little, but not much.
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Everyone think like you, who is gonna do the silly/stupid job? rolleyes.gif

I think what people should learn is to fit into the society and make it better place.
Rather than judging one another and try to outdo one another based on scales/expectation other set upon you; become stressed and unhappy.

I personally can't find a right scale to size everyone up. But, I do enjoy working with people who are honest, and enjoys what they are doing.
Generally happy vibes.


QUOTE(Ralna @ Aug 1 2018, 04:17 PM)

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Bloated civil service
Friday, 3 Feb 2017

High amount of taxpayers money is used to pay salaries and pensions of govt staff

FINALLY Malaysia has a superlative – we are the country with the largest civil service relative to our population in the world.

To hear such frank remarks from Second Finance Minister Datuk Johari Abdul Ghani is eye-opening.

So how big is the Malaysian civil service? We have a total of 1.6 million civil servants – that is one government servant to service 19.37 Malaysians. For comparison, the proportion of civil servants to the national population in other countries is 1 to 71.4 people in Singa-pore, 1:110 in Indonesia, 1:50 in Korea, 1:108 in China, 1:28 in Japan, 1:84 in Russia and 1:118 in Britain.

The bloated civil service has caused government expenditure to increase yearly, leading to the escalating drop in revenue. Already 80% of the Federal Government’s annual budget goes towards operating expenditure and a large chunk of this is to pay for salaries and pensions.
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Read more at https://www.thestar.com.my/metro/views/2017...PCGXB40vhR6d.99



There are many valuable experience and skills that the private sector can teach to the ones working in public sector, which is why there's this gov policy to "corporatize" and privatize public services.
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Is that your sentence or quoted from some else? Need to read on definition of revenue. Revenue is the gross income. And increased expenses/cost doesn't reduces revenue. But, it does reduces net income.

The real problem now is the increase for our national expenses is not proportional to our GDP growth. By right, every dollar national expenses must have certain 5-8% annualised return average.

Public/Government Sector is equally important as corporate sector. Which is more important is moot. One can't exist without another.
If you travel/read enough, you will see my point.

To make it easy to illustrate my point, if Mr. Lee decide to take a path of Mr. Kuok, will Singapore be Singapore today?
What Mr. Lee left behind is a resilient nation where business can flourish. Instead of being a Mr. Kuok alike himself, he produced more Mr. Kuok alike.

You lived your high life too long that you forgot what's struggles like.


QUOTE(Ralna @ Aug 1 2018, 04:17 PM)

Btw,

I don't see this as doing good for the nation.

Malaysia is very "poor" now, laden with huge debt coz of the previous gov. IMO, it's more effective to start own biz & pay more corporate tax to gov, rather than to join the civil service and increase gov expenditure. Just a different POV, not that joining civil service is a sin, but looking at the current circumstance, which one can truly mean well for the nation?
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That's true if you are useless. People like Lim Guan Eng, Tony Pua and Rafizi stood up to save the country.
PH has cabinet of talent. All of them could be whoever they wanna be; but they chosed differently.
Like I mentioned before, it's not for everyone. It's not just brain. It needs conscience & courage.

People like that, how do you put $$$ on their head?

Malaysia in our early years were doing pretty well. Wouldn't say great governance. But not bad.

Past decade has come to a critical point; and it's good to know there are good people that would do the right thing. Last election has proved that.

With last GOV, it's better to evade tax via CSR where every dollar is put into it's exact use. When you can build a proper facilities with 1/3 of it price.
Now, I don't mind doing either one. With previous gov, that would be a bottomless pit. What changes you made with ur more corporate tax? NOTHING.



RUI
post Aug 1 2018, 09:43 PM

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QUOTE(Ralna @ Aug 1 2018, 08:52 PM)
Lim Guan Eng, Tony Pua and Rafizi ...

Did you study their portfolios?

LGE was an accountant and senior exec in a bank, and he owns a bungalow worth RM2.8mil++. Tony Pua was a e-biz consultant and a self-made millionaire. Rafizi was a chartered accountant and managed Petronas, and later, became GM of Pharmaniaga. So yes, they had $$$, and still do.

Those are politicians, not gov servants who worked their way up in the public sector. Ask yourself, how many PH cabinet ministers had actually worked their way up from the lowest level in the public sector? 


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That's not the point!
The point they could just lived the HIGHER LIFE that you could ever dream of and just focused on themselves like you would. Why bother? (I'm not sure about the real "ralna" behind the screen would be bothered. But the one here definitely won't).

My point is, at every level, good people stands up and contribute at every level.

If you look at Japan, why professional at each level do their work conscientiously. I believe one half is because they take pride in their work, understands the importance of their work and derives satisfaction from it. The other half is the gratitude and appreciation from the people that received the service, AT EVERY LEVEL.

We lack that here. Our public services were never good enough. No matter how hard they try, for "SOME PEOPLE" never good enough.
Too bad some grew cynical and later became more selfish, but lucky us, there are still good people around. Perhaps, if anything useful after such in depth discussion on this, would be a simple thank you upon receiving any service, regardless how poorly it is. Simple gratitude goes a long way.

QUOTE(Ralna @ Aug 1 2018, 08:52 PM)
I don't see the point of joining civil service when there's already overpopulation of civil servants to do "the silly/stupid job", as RUI put it. Btw, do civil servants go on demonstration to protest against corruption or racial inequality? I don't think so. So, where's the difference that they make?
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Where do you think Rafizi and Tony Pua got their ammo of facts from?
Who do you think are the whistleblowers?

You seriously lacks wisdom. We need good people at every level. If you are a good, perhaps, you can reduce numbers of staff needed. So, that the rest can be upskilled or transferred elsewhere. Seeeeeeee the point yet? On the contrary of what you have preached, "strategic thinking", you would be surprised the monkeys are pretty good at "strategic planning", and for some reason, no service or value rendered but they are still there. (Does it ring a bell? Similarity with some characters here? Kling Klong Kling Klong, no value added, only apparent/future "value", engaged with some rich dudes). Hence, after hiring one after another, same type of monkey shows up. And it cost a bomb to remove them. (Again, does it ring a bell, why some married men cheats? In my experience talking to quite a fewl, they were married based perceived/apparent value; when it's below expectatiion; they covertly outsourced it elsewhere. As, discarding the wife cost a bomb). whistling.gif whistling.gif whistling.gif. What we really need is to encourage more people to be cinderella and reduce monkey and the step sister. I think we can all agree on that.

NO. That's not RUI put it. It's RUI's interpretation of Ralna's insinuation of "So, where's the difference that they make?" & deliberate use of "over-population" as if they are useless.

P.S. I do agree at some place are redundant. But not all. So it's the duty of new minister to trim it down. I will personally focus on increasing good people in Education and Health. Rationales are simple. 1) We don't know where is the next Einstein or Tesla come from (I'm pretty sure it's wasn't Harvard or Stanford). 2) Keep daddies and mummies more time spent at work. And you may have the rest removed or replaced with monkeys. I don't care. laugh.gif
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post Aug 18 2018, 09:46 PM

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QUOTE(Benefon @ Aug 18 2018, 06:36 AM)
Interesting..
If the girl has higher value why called this disappointed?
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Surface value and intrinsic value hold different values.

That's on top of one man's meat is another man's poison.

So, when someone is doing hardselling; then, it's time to walk away.

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