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post May 24 2007, 06:34 PM, updated 19y ago

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Anyone knows that is it existing motherboard is supported to this new processor? Like MSI MS-7222 , MSI MS-7255, ABIT IP-95 and ABIT IL9 Pro.

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QUOTE(caskil @ May 24 2007, 06:34 PM)
Anyone knows that is it existing motherboard is supported to this new processor? Like MSI MS-7222 , MSI MS-7255, ABIT IP-95 and ABIT IL9 Pro.

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Errr... can you rephrase the question? What new dual-core are you talking about?
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QUOTE(kmarc @ May 24 2007, 06:36 PM)
Errr... can you rephrase the question? What new dual-core are you talking about?
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Intel E2140 and E2160... Thanks
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Intel will released them before 3rd of June.well,the E2160 is clocked at 1.6GHz with FSB800 and only 1MB of cache lo.....the retail price is around USD 80.


The E2140 is running at 1.6 GHZ with FSB 800 and 1 MB cache too.

both of them is lower standard of Core 2,mostly the same,just cheap,lower cache.

and from western review,two of them hit 3.0 or more than 3.0GHz EASILY.

but the cache of 1mb killing it....

and the name is a bit funny,rumour said it will be

"Core 2 Pentium" rclxms.gif rclxms.gif rclxms.gif rclxms.gif rclxms.gif

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whew..when i look at the title of this thread..i tot u were gonna post something about intel replacing the core 2 duo..lol..but then again..
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oo... I believe that this might greatly slayering AMD's lowend dual cores from athlon x2 3600 to 4400 sad.gif

from what I heard, there will be no more dual core for celeron rite?
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QUOTE(caskil @ May 24 2007, 06:34 PM)
Anyone knows that is it existing motherboard is supported to this new processor? Like MSI MS-7222 , MSI MS-7255, ABIT IP-95 and ABIT IL9 Pro.

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i think all mobo that can support core 2 duo proc able to run this new proc since it use same core architecture..
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QUOTE(dattebayo @ May 24 2007, 08:05 PM)
oo... I believe that this might greatly slayering AMD's lowend dual cores from athlon x2 3600 to 4400 sad.gif

from what I heard, there will be no more dual core for celeron rite?
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there wasn't any since the beginning rite....? blink.gif
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post May 24 2007, 08:41 PM

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If this thing really gonna out soon,

Students mostly will very happy.

Core 2 Pentium. thumbup.gif
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post May 24 2007, 09:11 PM

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Hehe, C2P.. sounds like some word lol.. no offence..
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QUOTE(AceCombat @ May 24 2007, 06:54 PM)
Intel will released them before 3rd of June.well,the E2160 is clocked at 1.6GHz with FSB800 and only 1MB of cache lo.....the retail price is around USD 80.
The E2140 is running at 1.6 GHZ with FSB 800 and 1 MB cache too.

both of them is lower standard of Core 2,mostly the same,just cheap,lower cache.

and from western review,two of them hit 3.0 or more than 3.0GHz EASILY.

but the cache of 1mb killing it....

and the name is a bit funny,rumour said it will be

"Core 2 Pentium" rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif
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easy to overclock ??you mean.?
if stock speed still can pawn x2?

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post May 24 2007, 11:10 PM

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the formal name would be Intel Pentium Dual Core biggrin.gif
seems intel still loves this name very much, Pentium is a better name, compare to the core core crunch laugh.gif
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Some reviews and Overclocking benchmarks:

PENTIUM E2140 BENCHMARK :
Pentium E2140 : 120% OC Stable on Water
E2140 vs E2160 vs E4300 vs brisbane 3600+ on default speed

PENTIUM E2160 REVIEWS :
E2160 vs X6800
E2160@3.9GHz tongue.gif notworthy.gif

drool.gif drool.gif
Seems like the brisbane killer has come... sweat.gif flex.gif

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post May 25 2007, 12:27 AM

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omg.. is it netburst tech?? confuse coz the "pentium" name..

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oh silly me.. its allendale with half cache disabled.. blush.gif

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Athlon X2 still has one advantage at least, its virtualization, its best for software like vmware and virtual pc laugh.gif
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Actually this is sort of like the replacement for the Pentium Duo, P4 and Celeron in my opinion. But, with it's capability to OC up to only 3GHz, it's not as attractive as the C2D, which r potentially high at 3.2GHz and above.

For budget users or students, this may seems like a good processor, but the mobo is still on killing prices.

Out of topic abit, the cheapest good OC board, which I just bought is the ABIT F-I90HD, it allows my E6300 to reach 7 x 370 max, can't reach 7 x 400 yet, although I'm using the D9GMH. I think this mobo suits the E4300 more.

So, either couple these new dual core with the Biostar TForce P965 or the Abit F-I90HD or MSI 965P Neo-F. Those r the good mobos below RM 400 which will couple well with the new processors and OC nicely too. hehe thumbup.gif
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well,is still better than amd 3600x2,see,almost 150% of oc to 3.9.....
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pentium 4 -> pentium D -> core 2 duo

now low end proc + high end proc = core 2 pentium

so funny
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Nice little budget processor,
but those hardcore gamers wont even look at it, haha
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post May 25 2007, 01:29 PM

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it should be cheaper than existing E4xxx, although they just use the same core with half of L2 cache disabled. Maybe the 1.8ghz model will start from rm25x in bulk ? drool.gif
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yup,it's cheap,retail rm3xx only.
but the L2 cache definitely will kill the performance of the processor.
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QUOTE(AceCombat @ May 24 2007, 06:54 PM)
Intel will released them before 3rd of June.well,the E2160 is clocked at 1.6GHz with FSB800 and only 1MB of cache lo.....the retail price is around USD 80.
The E2140 is running at 1.6 GHZ with FSB 800 and 1 MB cache too.
it's santa rosa platform. well, 1mb cache really x enuf.. even my laptop curently running on 4mb l2 cache. mayb intel is target on low end consumers. it's still a grab anway. FSB 800MHz is attractive.. but i doubtd if they can fully ultilise it.
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intel is having soooo many tv ads these days, even in afternoon, watch ntv7, at least 4 c2d ads showing in one hour in the afternoon...
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This Pentium Dual Core is really good one,in o/c wise i can say is preety good and very overclockable.Very advisable to get this proc for the entry level PC. This proc is very much better compare to my P4.
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QUOTE(dattebayo @ May 25 2007, 12:43 AM)
Athlon X2 still has one advantage at least, its virtualization, its best for software like vmware and virtual pc laugh.gif
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indeed, somehow i think amd's architecture is good in that field, my friend went for amd instead of intel for his laptop cause he uses those software that u mentioned for programming purpose

this proc is definitely not for users like programmers, coders, and etc due to the low fsb and cache in my opinion

the oc-bility is really shocking anyway sweat.gif

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think AMD gonna tutup kedai soon?
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QUOTE(gtoforce @ May 26 2007, 01:49 AM)
think AMD gonna tutup kedai soon?
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If AMD K10 proc keep on delay , then AMD really will in trouble.. sweat.gif sweat.gif
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then i can try to buy this new low end processor to replace my old ring then

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wow cheapo c2p
really pwn amd 99
amd hav no chance to stand even in budget market sad.gif sad.gif sad.gif

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Here's a new review on Pentium Dual-core E2160/2140.

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/displ...tium-e2160.html

Looks like at stock speeds, they loose out to AMD X2 3600+/3800+.

However, they are very overclockable and at OC 3.4 Ghz, is on par with C2D x6800!!

Even the AMD X2 6000+ could not compete with the x6800!!

So for the budget conscious, this proc may be a potential x6800 (for so much less!!!) thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(kmarc @ May 31 2007, 09:06 PM)
Here's a new review on Pentium Dual-core E2160/2140.

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/displ...tium-e2160.html

Looks like at stock speeds, they loose out to AMD X2 3600+/3800+.

However, they are very overclockable and at OC 3.4 Ghz, is on par with C2D x6800!!

Even the AMD X2 6000+ could not compete with the x6800!!

So for the budget conscious, this proc may be a potential x6800 (for so much less!!!)  thumbup.gif
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Bu ti thought the chache is juz 1mb rite? So it doesn't really on par with x6800 lah duh...Juz the clock speed dats all.
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QUOTE(kel_jink @ Jun 1 2007, 10:54 AM)
Bu ti thought the chache is juz 1mb rite? So it doesn't really on par with x6800 lah duh...Juz the clock speed dats all.
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Definitely with lower cache, the pentium dual core will lose to x6800 in some high-cache intensive apps. However, look at the figures below and you can come to a conclusion yourself..... thumbup.gif

For the budget conscious, what is there to lose?

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QUOTE(kmarc @ Jun 1 2007, 11:02 AM)
Definitely with lower cache, the pentium dual core will lose to x6800 in some high-cache intensive apps. However, look at the figures below and you can come to a conclusion yourself.....  thumbup.gif

For the budget conscious, what is there to lose?
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what the hack....
this proc can pown c2d 6800...

but need to oc kaw2, can effect proc lifespan

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QUOTE(arjuna_mfna @ Jun 1 2007, 11:10 AM)
what the hack....
this proc can pown c2d 6800...

but need to oc kaw2, can effect proc lifespan
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OC affects processor lifespan? I call BS on that dude. My rig's 2+ years old, oc'ed on air all the way and it hasn't hung on me since.

I don't think you or I would want to have the same rig in another 3 years or even next year, for the matter, if you say I haven't had it long enough.
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QUOTE(infin @ Jun 1 2007, 05:15 PM)
OC affects processor lifespan?  I call BS on that dude.  My rig's 2+ years old, oc'ed on air all the way and it hasn't hung on me since.

I don't think you or I would want to have the same rig in another 3 years or even next year, for the matter, if you say I haven't had it long enough.
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Right and wrong.

There's no debate that OC will reduce processor lifespan (or increase the risk of processor damage, if you like) although it may still mean you can use it for another 5-10 years..... (or longer than that! Maybe processor lifespan is 20 years??!!?? rclxub.gif )

Nowadays, old rigs are still useful as a secondary rig for surfing, bittorrent (very useful!),folding and most importantly for your child/wife/partner to use so that they DON'T come and 'kacau' you to use the computer for their homework/chit-chat, etc!!! whistling.gif
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O/c is really for fun and for gaining extra juice from the stock.There are some debates claiming that o/c would reduce the life span of the processor.I also not so sure how true is it.Maybe charge-n-go can help us to answer this ?
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QUOTE(arjuna_mfna @ Jun 1 2007, 12:10 PM)
what the hack....
this proc can pown c2d 6800...

but need to oc kaw2, can effect proc lifespan
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FGS it's SO cheap that I'd give a damn if it breaks down early! (Reason to upgrade to Nehalem? rclxm9.gif)


Might be getting one. See how Barcelona pwns/flops first. But Core really is getting impressive to the poor people like me (tongue.gif)

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QUOTE(X.E.D @ Jun 2 2007, 07:02 PM)
FGS it's SO cheap that I'd give a damn if it breaks down early! (Reason to upgrade to Nehalem? rclxm9.gif)
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That true!! Anybody knows what are the pricings for these new procs?
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QUOTE(arjuna_mfna @ May 25 2007, 08:17 AM)
saw the review, what i can say is not bad for budget proc, but need to wait till real price tag, if it price about same 3600x2 that good
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yes if its around the same price as the 3600x2 then ill get it... hmm when it is officially out in malaysia... i can start saving now...
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E2140 1.6G is around RM$280~RM$290
E2160 1.8G is around RM$315~RM$325

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QUOTE(YiQi @ Jun 3 2007, 05:45 PM)
E2140 1.6G is around RM$280~RM$290
E2160 1.8G is around RM$315~RM$325
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Wah! That's affordable for the majority! Where did you get the source of the prices?

If it is this cheap, then I wouldn't mind getting one and OC it "kaw kaw"!!! rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(YiQi @ Jun 3 2007, 05:45 PM)
E2140 1.6G is around RM$280~RM$290
E2160 1.8G is around RM$315~RM$325
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so cheap??

then amd will out of race if the oc result of the 2 proc is higher than am2 x2 proc..



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i saw a shop in malacca selling both processor already.
they call it "Pentium E" but when i check the processors in detail
they are E2140 n E2160 icon_rolleyes.gif

E2140 (1.8Ghz 800FSB 1MB L2 cache) = RM299
E2160 (2.0Ghz 800FSB 1MB L2 cache) = RM339

i know its quite cheap already but i hope there will be someone makin a bulk for these procs cuz i think i wanna grab it too ! thumbup.gif

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QUOTE(kmarc @ Jun 3 2007, 05:55 PM)
Wah! That's affordable for the majority! Where did you get the source of the prices?

If it is this cheap, then I wouldn't mind getting one and OC it "kaw kaw"!!!  rclxms.gif
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LowYat, bought on Saturday, ThxndxrMxtch, PCZxnx, CxmpxteZxnx all got already.

The box is written as "Pentium Duo Core" .....

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QUOTE(YiQi @ Jun 3 2007, 10:13 PM)
LowYat, bought on Saturday, ThxndxrMxtch, PCZxnx, CxmpxteZxnx all got already.

  The box is written as "Pentium Duo Core" .....
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u got NTBD meh doh.gif

whats the point in masking the shop names sweat.gif

hope that LYNian will bulk it soon, then we will have e2140 at rm250 drool.gif
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QUOTE(dattebayo @ Jun 3 2007, 10:22 PM)
u got NTBD meh doh.gif

whats the point in masking the shop names sweat.gif

hope that LYNian will bulk it soon, then we will have e2140 at rm250 drool.gif
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LOL. Ya lo. No need to mask the shops name la. If want to mask also, have to make it less obvious ma..... like TDM, PCZ, CPTZ.... whistling.gif

You see, like NTBD..... errrr... dunno what it means.....
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lol amd gonna lose a year of profit d
summore intel want sapu AMD low end series summore

look like intel want kill AMD leh
anybody feel so?

Summore Nvidia also sapu ATI in this stage


another Perdua sapu proton ? lol

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I sincerely hope that AMD can at least come up with a solution.

Monopoly would be bad for us..... shakehead.gif
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QUOTE(taxidoor @ Jun 4 2007, 02:43 AM)
Summore Nvidia also sapu ATI in this stage
another Perdua sapu proton ? lol
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but ATI getting killed...? shocking.gif
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hehe hope so la
u also have to remember wor... Nvidia G80 vy long time d
haha later nvidia use G90 hit 2900 wakaka

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Nice little budget processor,
but those hardcore gamers wont even look at it, haha
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Well, those E2140 and E2160 are not really targeted for hardcore gamers anyway. Why should you make it an issue? nod.gif
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I OC my Barton 2500+ to 3200+ and it die in almost two years time ... sad.gif

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QUOTE(evilmashi @ Jun 3 2007, 08:03 PM)
E2140 (1.8Ghz 800FSB 1MB L2 cache) = RM299
E2160 (2.0Ghz 800FSB 1MB L2 cache) = RM339
corrections: E2140 is 1.6 GHz, E2160 is 1.8 GHz. thank you.

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QUOTE(average.joe @ Jun 29 2007, 02:38 PM)
Well, those E2140 and E2160 are not really targeted for hardcore gamers anyway.  Why should you make it an issue?  nod.gif
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any1 know bout Celeron dual core...? 4 series... blink.gif
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post Jul 2 2007, 09:00 PM

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QUOTE(§layerXT @ Jul 2 2007, 07:52 PM)
the 1MB cache really bottleneck ur game a lot compared to 4MB version.
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if OC 99, the bottleneck would be very less apparent.

QUOTE(t3chn0m4nc3r @ Jul 2 2007, 08:57 PM)
any1 know bout Celeron dual core...? 4 series... blink.gif
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intel plan to make celeron dual core? blink.gif
whoa they really hate AMD so much meh, to the extent to slaughter the innocent little sempy sad.gif
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post Jul 3 2007, 09:27 AM

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QUOTE(§layerXT @ Jul 2 2007, 07:52 PM)
the 1MB cache really bottleneck ur game a lot compared to 4MB version.
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If you saw the benchmark between the 1MB,2MB and 4MB proc which are running at similar speed,there are only very minor difference only. brows.gif Check it at xbitlabs.com .

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post Jul 4 2007, 01:23 PM

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yes, it appears that the only major setback for E21xx is heavy games performance. for digital media creation however, the shortcoming is very little.

http://www.hothardware.com/Articles/Intel_...Core_Processor/

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post Jul 4 2007, 01:25 PM

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how much the cache bottlenecks depends on whether the game is L2 cache intensive. smile.gif
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post Jul 4 2007, 02:37 PM

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QUOTE(dattebayo @ Jul 2 2007, 09:00 PM)
if OC 99, the bottleneck would be very less apparent.
intel plan to make celeron dual core? blink.gif
whoa they really hate AMD so much meh, to the extent to slaughter the innocent little sempy sad.gif
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slaughter amd kau kau... lol, i always believe every dog has its day... i bet amd will pawn intel given time cool2.gif
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post Jul 4 2007, 02:54 PM

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hehe. AMD being slaughtered now? nahh. they're still producing equally good processors.

compare at same price point their performance difference are mostly only seen on benchies.

should see those days when AMD was about to close down, before the launch of the Athlon series.
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post Jul 4 2007, 08:29 PM

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There will be no Dual-Core celeron in the near future on their road map. AMD will survive. Or else we will see dull Intel coz of light competition.
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post Jul 5 2007, 09:56 AM

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QUOTE(a1098113 @ Jul 4 2007, 02:37 PM)
slaughter amd kau kau... lol, i always believe every dog has its day... i bet amd will pawn intel given time cool2.gif
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Well thats the way the game has been since the beginning and not just for the processor industry. Earlier times it was the Intel pwning the amd's, cyrix and etc during the 8088,P2,P3 times...then cum P4 the AMD's started to be the better proc's...of course only till intel released the c2d...I'm pretty sure AMD will hire over some Intel R&D engineers and they will be back in the fray....its called industrial espionage, heck even the same thing is happening in F1...laugh.gif

 

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