I got first spot.

Hee hee

I've been hearing Worship group who calls themselves - Here be Lions.

They are awesome!





all their song..really move me.

Imputation

Romans 6:10-11 (NIV) - The death he died, he died to sin once for all; but the life he lives, he lives to God. In the same way, count yourselves dead to sin but alive to God in Christ Jesus.


In Romans 6 verse 10, it says Jesus died to sin once and for all. And we have been taught to die daily to our sins. And we equate the meaning of the verse as such. Now Question.

Did Jesus died to sin in the matter of character and conduct? He had no sin to die with regards to character and conduct, isn't it? If we say we need to die to our sin in character and conduct with this verse, we are contradicting it's meaning.

Because the following verse says..."In the same way". Now hold on a minute..Jesus had no sin and He was perfect. He didn't had to die to sin in character and conduct. So what is this "In the same way" means?

I submit to you, the revelation here talks about imputation to the judgement and condemnation of sin.

How is this going to help? Very much, when you hold on to righteousness by Faith and you know you are to put off the imputation of sin or sin consciousness on daily basis, you will be set free to live for God.

Always remember it is the goodness of God that leads you to repentance. Repent in your mind. Think of all that is good about God and his love for you.

God Bless


This post has been edited by unknown warrior: Jul 14 2018, 08:58 AM

You're the only Catholic who don't mind to connect with us.

ah..you mean this is to answer whether today's Israel is still God's chosen?

the Church can never replace Israel....I thought the in-grafted branch scripture is quite clear on that....

Well God started off in Romans 11 with the context of "by no means!"

Romans 11:1-2
1 I ask then: Did God reject his people? By no means! I am an Israelite myself, a descendant of Abraham, from the tribe of Benjamin. 2 God did not reject his people, whom he foreknew. Don’t you know what Scripture says in the passage about Elijah—how he appealed to God against Israel:


That is in the new testament...I thought that should quench whatever argument.

Then there is from verse 17 to 21..key is in verse 18


17 If some of the branches have been broken off, and you, though a wild olive shoot, have been grafted in among the others and now share in the nourishing sap from the olive root, 18 do not consider yourself to be superior to those other branches. If you do, consider this: You do not support the root, but the root supports you. 19 You will say then, “Branches were broken off so that I could be grafted in.” 20 Granted. But they were broken off because of unbelief, and you stand by faith. Do not be arrogant, but tremble. 21 For if God did not spare the natural branches, he will not spare you either.

Oh well....

This post has been edited by unknown warrior: Jul 17 2018, 09:16 AM

How Calvinism counter this verse?



Romans 11:18 (NIV) - do not consider yourself to be superior to those other branches. If you do, consider this: You do not support the root, but the root supports you.

This post has been edited by unknown warrior: Jul 17 2018, 09:18 AM

lol

From what I understand, it's telling me..Don't think I'm better than the Israel just because of their rebellion...and in a nutshell...it's telling me God is just waiting for them....another hint of non rejection.

Yeah I agree..it can be a potential problem when you look up too much to people...even preachers.

I hold the view..when we go to Church...we're suppose to look up to God and keep that view 24/7 and not to leaders.

Disappointments may happen when we look to people, particular leaders.

but that doesn't mean we are not to respect church hierarchy or to allow ourselves to take in views from christian school of thoughts and teaching from various teachers.

With that being said.....I think those links are alright to be posted and shouldn't be shunned.

It's alright. I've come to the point....we all need room to express our opinion, minus the hostility.

Whether one is right or wrong...we are free to discuss and hopefully have a fellowship discussion as how this is happening now as christians.

See the video.

God is very much involved and mentioned!

I understand where you're coming from.

To be honest..I'm going through a phase in my walk with God and you asking me this question this day is no accident but God incident.

My only advise to you is, time like this....best is to learn patience and I know it's easier said that done but I believe when things don't make any sense and you may feel God seems silent....best is to be patience, to be humble in submission, trusting God even if you don't feel like it.

What I know is....when the time is right, God will answer and you will understand.

Well first of all, if you've believed in Christ, then you can be rest assured you are redeemed.

Every person will die eventually..through whatever means, even as you mentioned.

it is something we need to accept.

This is what we call a blessed Hope, this is the purpose of the Gospel. It is not a hopeless death.

You may or may not get the answer while you're alive but you will eventually. I don't know what predicament you need answers.

Regardless you must learn to see In Heaven the saints are very much alive. Far more alive than those in the corruptible body.

When I say corruptible body what I mean is...this temporal life.

We always forget that the life God breath into us is eternal and can never die. (your spirit)

This post has been edited by unknown warrior: Jul 23 2018, 10:21 AM

It's a union.

Still you but minus the sin state....Now you have the life of God (clean state) in you. Your free will to act, to decide matters still remains.


Colossians 3:3 (NIV) - For you died, and your life is now hidden with Christ in God.

This post has been edited by unknown warrior: Jul 23 2018, 01:34 PM

Confession makes us righteous.

Romans 10:10 (KJV) - For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.

Godly character is the result or fruit of right believing (Faith) and you know all these encompasses the fruits of the Holy Spirit.

But when you focus on right doing, the result is the works of the flesh. Works is the result of effort. Fruits is the result of life. (of God's Spirit)

The Bible says, it's from confession..we get righteousness. God's kingdom is just different from how we think what is right. We think doing right would lead to righteousness........

And that is what happened to Israel at mount Sinai. They boasted before God.."All that God commanded, we will do it". They presumed on their own performance.

See, Israel did not intend to sin, yet even before they heard 1 commandment, when they said to God, they will obey all that God commanded...the very 1st commandment was broken.

A Golden Calf was produced.

I leave this to your thoughts.

God Bless

Confessing to Victory


Romans 10:8 (NIV) - But what does it say? "The word is near you; it is in your mouth and in your heart," that is, the message concerning faith that we proclaim:

Morning guys,

God has help me understand...the way we received Salvation is through the confession of our mouth...look at the verse below:

Romans 10:9-10 (NIV) - 9 If you declare with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. 10 For it is with your heart that you believe and are justified, and it is with your mouth that you profess your faith and are saved.

Likewise, the power to reign in life is by the confession of our mouth hence Romans 10:10.

And how do we reign? Bible says in Romans 5:17 we reign by "receiving" (not banking on doing) abundant grace and of the gift of righteousness.

Today the Church has missed this teaching. We hardly confess anymore that we have been made righteous. And that is why we live defeated life as Christians. We are not confessing enough. We are trying to do more and to live right more but the Bible (God's way) tells us the way to change is NOT by might nor power but by God's Spirit and to access that is via faith through our confession.

I leave you with this nugget below, I believe We need to confess this verse below every few hours, everyday:

2 Corinthians 5:21 (NIV) - God made him who had no sin to be sin for us, so that in him we might become the righteousness of God.

God Bless



This post has been edited by unknown warrior: Jul 25 2018, 08:50 AM

Thanks Bro.

Faith have always been the integral part. I presume Christians here would have a basic understand that without Faith, it's impossible to please God and that to be a Christian, the understanding of Faith would have been imparted but I suppose you're right...there are all kinds of people to which we don't know the background of their understanding.

This post has been edited by unknown warrior: Jul 25 2018, 09:12 AM