My serious opinion is that we should never impose any form of rules for people who wants to "split", if they want to leave and find other churches, it's really up to them.

Churches should be like that, my view is that Churches belongs to God all over the world, hence Body of Christ.

I didn't say anything about any specific leader ruling all Christians, I just mentioned God being the head.

God give different leaders different gifting. Even if the doctrine views are different, the core primary doctrines is what unite all churches.

Google council of churches Malaysia. Different denomination but we are one body of Christ as what Christ has said in the Bible.

The ear cannot say it doesn't need the eye.

You need to find out more what does primary doctrine means and No, practise of baptism is are secondary doctrine.

btw have you google on Council of Churches? Do you know who they are?

Ok, I see that you don't believe what I've said and neither do you wish to even find out about Council of Churches of Malaysia how they are made up of different denomination YET are a body of Christ, then it's ok. If you call them they will explain what is primary doctrine and what is secondary doctrine. You can ask your local church pastor if you want.

Have a good day, God bless.

What exactly is your question again?

No doubt there are denominations but it depends on spiritual maturity of the believer.

For me I don't see it as something of a problem because based on what I read in Bible I do believe Christ already knew this and yet He prayed that we may all be as one in Father God and in Him (Christ).

If you are afraid of secondary doctrines that may lead to disqualification of Salvation ie Baptism of water, then consider the dying thief at the cross, He wasn't baptized in water yet He was given the grace of Salvation. I do not think for one moment God will be inconsistent in his truth or his act of grace, God is a favor of none but is Just to all.

Does this answer your question? Because to be honest, I don't really want to argue with believers or none believers at this point in time, not really in the mood.

I tried, but I still don't understand.

Are you saying that people from different denominations are not saved?

Are you a Christian and do you understand what is the gospel?

You and your KJV obsession.

There are no original letters written by the new testament writers left today. So who determines which manuscript is the best preserved? There are close to 6000 greek texts out there and they are all different.

This is a fact.

You would be presumptious if you say that God protected only 1 out of the 6000 and that one made it to the KJV.

Even the KJV was was the product of multiple manuscripts.

There are no major doctrinal differences in the greek manuscripts.

I honestly think you are too obsessed with finding the best manuscript.

As you can see, we are all human.

I guess you probably think just a mere confession of Christ save. No matter what version of Christ that person believes in. So my question now is, is say you profess in the Islamic version of Christ and repent, will you get saved?

Before we continue, we should make things clear right?

But you probably do not have the material and guts to continue on right?

Depends on the Bible version actually.

If you are interested in this subject. Go and read new age bible version by Gail Riplinger or you can watch her videos.

Just a quick one. The new versions lowers the deity of Christ and make him to be like a man. Of course this is one of the things they do. In fact as thomasthai pointed out, they even remove entire sections of the Bible which describes the ressurection of Christ. Many of those people who produces the new versions are textual critics who determines what should be in the bible and what should not. And you trust bible that are written by those people?

If you are really seeking the truth you will find it. But then if you are just like anyone else, well, all I can say is, well, there is a high chance you will be facing judgement.

Even if one verse differs, shouldn't it be a concern? But I guess when people like thomasthai treats truth in a flimsy way. It probably does not matter. That's the thing. The Jesus he believes in is not the one in the Bible. It's the one in his head. If you look at his previous post. He even admits it.

That's why I implied in my pm to you. I dun trust many people.