Now you correct.

That's why it's so important to express it clearly. When that's done, it removes doubts and ambiguities. That's precisely the problem in our Christian world today.

I want to apologize to you my brother for my very first altercation with you in the beginning. I thought you were nuts earlier but later via many other threads, you seem right & level minded which was strange. Now it's clear, please forgive me.

Surely you must have thought where did this looney come from out of no where ? 🤣

You are not alone in that department. A scandalous allegation erupted against me in my own Catholic Church, wherein it was claimed that I am trying to convert adults into the Islamic faith !!! I praise our Lord, for what's written in Scriptures is also true.

Surely you are aware that this is the workings of the devil.

Wait a minute, you have different theologies altogether from other Christians ? Would like to hear them out but doing such things in person is so much better and precise than doing over online.

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There was this atheist couple who joined and they had a lot of questions which included the Jews & Muslims since all of us come from the Abraham line. Ooh I loved questions for I had them questions to before I embarked on this remarkable journey with our Lord.

Anyways maybe if I don't disturb or attack the devil's kingdom, the devil might leave me alone instead, plausible ? Ha ha

Will read your theology slowly from now onwards and give you a thinker if anything shows up. God Bless.

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I love the Holy Scriptures so much that it's now my only ministry. Since the wings have been clipped, I find I am totally lifeless. Unlike during Bible Class, the Holy Spirit is in charge but after class I would be completely drained and need to sleep even it's before midday!!!

We cannot afford not to attack the devil kingdom otherwise it will be our heads on the chopping block ! It's written in Scriptures because "... you are lukewarm, neither hot nor cold - I will spit you out of my mouth" and that would be the worst thing that can ever happen.

As Christians, we are all, simply called to love ❤️ that's it. The more love ❤️ one has the more dangerous it becomes.

If I do disagree on something then I am sure now that it's not written clearly enough, that's all. Since it is always the same Spirit, so understanding one another isn't the problem. The problem is TRYING to understand one another, more precisely, trying to tune into the Spirit of God whose at the other end of the keyboard.

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If we are born again Christians, we are more than friends already !

Here's what I are think, it's not about differences of the Gospel, or theologies or church or budging or what have you which makes us different from one from our respective view points.

It's all about being born again. Period.

Before I was born again, the Holy Scriptures made no sense at all. But being born again, it suddenly became crystal clear like a new world suddenly open up. So it's true when Scriptures says "But when He comes, the Spirit of Truth, He will guide you in all truth. ..." I am telling you guys the truth, I know of things that I have never learnt of and I am not only referring to about Scriptures ! I can tell Licensed Surveyor what's wrong, architects how to draw a truly green house, heck I even drew my own house just to shave off another 10-15% on energy costs etc.

Likewise for it's also written in many parts in Scriptures e.g. Only a Holy person can understand a Holy person or there's no need for brother to say to brother ....

So I truly believe that by being born again, we will understand each other in perfect clarity just like me about you or vice versa. The words agree to disagree etc don't exist in my vocabulary any longer simply because it's always the same Spirit.

Can you guys follow what I am trying to say ?

Problems in communication only arises between those born again and those who aren't.

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Of course the answer is our Lord Jesus Christ himself.

I want to be born again because my life was hitting the brick wall at 30, for I had too many disappointments working for food that never lasts.

I understand what I am saying sounds illogical but no worries when I inform fellow RC's, they too never believed what I am saying. It's ok.

The strangest thing is this, while I was teaching the Word of God to a pagan who later converted, not only did he believed what I was saying but he wanted to have what I was experiencing with our Lord. Within 2 weeks things began to work for him as he was given an unbelievable pay rise plus there was another job offer from Singapore 🇸🇬! Miracles happening to a pagan, who has not even converted yet. How great is our Lord.

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I pray & ask God for a Catholic partner, for Scriptures says how much more will our Heavenly Father provide if we ask of him. That is what I teach all younger generation of RCs.

I knew of a family with a daughter who had difficulty in finding a Catholic partner. The daughter being a doctor was open to any Christian partner but her mother was adamantly that he should be a Catholic after the miracles the Lord had done for her especially. After 2 ex-Christian boyfriends the Lord granted the mother her wish.

Thomas Thai, you are correct in your observation mixed marriages will have more share of their marital problems as compared to Catholic marriages and I suspect Christian marriages too. That's what I observed in my Catholic family too & within my church. Beautiful mother with lovely children but their pagan partner wishes to go their own way. Very sad indeed.

The worst has to be this, "My children can grow up believing whatever religion they want, it's their choice and will let them decide. Besides all religion is the same." Mind blowing crazy I tell you.

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You are correct but that's a very BIG IF, both individuals intending to get married has God's life in them, by that I mean both of them being born again, yes they can definately marry each other although they are from different denominations.

If any one party is not born of the Spirit, then there's going to be fundamental differences because the theology teachings are different.

Example it's usually claimed by other denominations that Catholics practices idolatry by having statues etc. If that claim was true, how is it that I can be born again and do all the miracles in our Lord's name ? Obviously neither Roman Catholics nor does the Roman Catholic practices idolatry. The statues in Catholic Churches serves as a reminder to all Catholics about our Heavenly family, something like a picture of my parent-in-law deceased that I keep at home, a bigger picture and a small picture which carry with me at all times. I myself will leave my own faith if I start worshipping to statues or anything if the Catholic Church tried to impose on its followers to start worshipping statues.

This is just one example only. The last time someone told me is that there are 32,000 different Christian denominations around the world but I still cannot imagine how on earth there are so many denominations when there is just 1 Gospel only to begin with !!!

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Is God consistent & fair according to the limitation of the human mind ? What about the Scriptures that says, are you jealous that I Am generous with regard to its parable ? Or what about the Scriptures which says, My ways are above your ways and My thoughts are above your thoughts.

In fact, we should all rejoice like angels in heaven, when a brethren is admitted into heaven regardless of whatever religious background one is from.

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Who is to say with absolute certainty that speaking in tongues constitutes speaking to God ? In Scriptures there are other spirits too.

My terrible past experience with someone, whom others had claim to have the gift of speaking in tongues, which led to an even worse outcome after such an incident, is evident of it.

It's clear that anyone who is not born again, is unable to speak in tongues but they appear to be able to speak in many tongues and who knows exactly to what other spirits.

Only those who are born again, will only be able to talk to God for it's the same Spirit.

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It's going to sound pretty unconvincing that's for sure.

Good to hear from you again Pehkay. I apologize for the very late reply.

What you had written earlier is correct and would like to add to this the practicality part.

Don't we all battle until we're born again !

The moment one is born again, one is transfigured, redeemed already albeit still living in the same old body.

The fulcrum would be how one responds to the call of repentance. Real Repentance. My Lord tells me this in Scriptures, "Stop sinning or something worse will happen."

I am curious and I've got a question about speaking in tongues and it goes like this :

QUESTION : Those who has this gift 🎁, speaking in tongues,

#1. would you know yourself what you speaking about when you speak in tongues ? &

#2. if others were to speak in tongues, would you be able to interpret exactly what's being said ?

Such a coincidence, was just explaining to another brethren about the nature of sheep 🐑 & goat 🐐 in Christianity.

Great post ThomasThai, but that's the longest extended version and the shortest version has to this, on the subject most people missed this point, is complete & full understanding of the Greatest Commandment and the 2nd most important commandment, upon which the entire Law of Moses & the prophets teachings depends upon.

However I must warn all my dear brethren of my Lord, be exceptionally cautious when one speaks of performance, works etc of others, for that works or performance could very well be the works of the Spirit in those born again.

We would not err especially on those who are not born again but we risk too much if it's otherwise.

I've always love ❤️ miracles not only what God has done for me but also the miracles that our God has done for countless others and I can only give praise our Heavenly Father for such good works and performance that can never be achieve by man nor science. How great is our God !

I'd appreciate the warning ⚠️ notices for our brethren but remember the blade always cuts both ways. God Bless.

Yes you are correct those are called the fruits of the Holy Spirit, but for me, it's more than that because Scriptures also says when the Son of Man sets one free, one is totally & really free, it's like I was ”blind” and now I can see !

That's a very good question indeed receiving the Spirit either by works of the Law OR by believing whats heard.

Here's what what happened, those 2 conditions must be fulfilled before one is eligible to God to be born of the Spirit, for they are definately not mutually exclusive of each other.

If I could born of the Spirit by believing in what I heard, I would have been born again a very long time ago but that wasn't the case. Many R. Catholics would have been born again too under such circumstances. Otherwise why does Scriptures says "Why do you call me Lord, Lord but don't DO what I tell you ?" Surely they too must have heard the Word and believed for they too did DO miracles in the Lord's name.

You are probably going to ask what about the Good Thief ? I too had question this for a very long time and this came to me, it's all about repentance at that crucial point in time, between life & the afterlife. The Good Thief probably heard Him for the 1st time & he repented, so he is in paradise.

As for us, we have heard the Word and now we have a choice of doing what's called good works or otherwise.

As for works of the Law on the other hand, firstly its where man is tested like how gold is tested in fire. Correct this initial part is of human effort against the statutes of our Lord, the real standards, yet it means nothing until one has completed all of the training, just to be like our Master and Teacher Jesus Christ.

Afterwhich being born of the Spirit is by the grace of God, works or performance is simply mariculous, until today I have no explanations for nor do I need to know how it came to be. I can only give praise to our loving God otherwise I will be pulling all my hair out looking for a logical answer.

All of Scriptures speaks of the goodness of our Almighty God, the things He had done and is still doing for His people. I strongly believe if by hearing the message was only needed for Salvation without any good works whatsoever, then Scriptures would be extremely short indeed.

Finally having said that, out of all my extensive limited experience, if our loving Father wishes to grant salvation to those who only believes without doing any good works whatsoever ALTHOUGH THEY ARE CAPABLE OF SUCH GOOD WORKS, is there anything else I would dare add ?

After all, that's His Kingdom and He can do just about whatever He is pleased with and I would be a fool to show my displeasure.

Oh yes Unknown Warrior, I understand you clearly. In fact if one were to analyze the Gospel properly, it's peppered throughout the Gospel with the word 'believe', which is the contentious issue at hand.

As I was writing the earlier reply, I was thinking how to address the word believe. During this weekend Mass, the reading about Elijah and the widow & her son plus another Gospel reading about the widow who put in 2 coins into the treasury, really hit a raw nerve when compared against what our Lord Jesus Christ is saying explicitly "Unless you people see signs & wonders, you will never believe."

I also know that there are many ways to Rome but at the end of the day it's all about one's need in seeking the heart of God first, until one is born again, which is all that matters.

Whether it's believing only or by works only or by both especially in my situation, does it really matter, as long one is born of the Spirit ?

Hi Thomasthai, is the above reply intended for me or is it someone else ?

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Thimasthai, yes what you have written is correct about the Holy Spirit.

I remember the time being led, I didn't know where I was heading but my feet lead me right up to a specific bedside and a miracle happened. Out of all the different hospital buildings & out all of the various different floors & out of all the different beds. Oh I didn't know the name, the ward the bed or anything at all. All I knew was I had to get there that's all. Simply out of this world experience.

Surely if you or anyone else had experience this, will understand this out of the world experience. But those who don't will probably say I mad or something. It's ok, I've gotten worse comments than mad, so I am fine.

I don't know about other Christian denominations but growing up as a Roman Catholic, doing good works is a must. In fact, if my memory serves me right it's written in Scriptures too that we must out do each other in good works, right ?

So I dont understand the need to desensitized others of doing good works really. It's written in Scriptures God alone is good and it's true, anyone who does good works must come from God via the Holy Spirit.

Let's spin this another way round instead. Assuming our Lord Jesus Christ came and just taught about believing only without doing any good works whatsoever. Zip no signs no wonders no nothing but just words, how different things would have turned out to be and this poor soul would probably still be lost that's for sure。

Finally I really love your last line, we're not saved by good works but we're saved for good works. All for the glory of God. Sweet dreams.

••• Typing on a tiny phone seems to induce all kind of funny spellings or words into the text. Really weird. Have to edit the post again •••

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Hi Unknown Warrior,

Yes what you written is true.

I've just instructed the stone mason to do up another bible for another tombstone with the verse John 3:16. Can anyone see what is the fulcrum in this verse ?