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unknown warrior
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Mar 4 2019, 09:12 AM
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QUOTE(alexkos @ Mar 3 2019, 10:42 AM) Well I'm just trying to do justice to the text.. if it is insisted that in 1 Tim 2....that v12 onwards it is strictly in family setting, then those verses before that should be too... hence....if i want to follow the logical explanation.... a wife shouldn't be wearing gold necklace (in family setting) must do good works (in family setting) learn in silence with all submission (in family setting) must wear modestly (in family setting) and...lastly do not have authority or teach man (in family setting) ... so...in church, no problem can wear gold necklace no need do good works can preach/teach/have authority over man I think what Paul was trying to say is that women shouldn't hook her beauty on her adornments, that's different from saying, you cannot wear those. Read it carefully.
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unknown warrior
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Mar 4 2019, 09:18 AM
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QUOTE(alexkos @ Mar 4 2019, 09:14 AM) good observation. When Paul was writing this, is it to prevent a future possible occurance of this event? Or that such incidence (that woman/wives are showing off with gold necklaces) was already in place, hence the motivation of such letter? Actually why don't you come straight to the point, what is it, you want to say?
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unknown warrior
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Mar 4 2019, 09:21 AM
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QUOTE(alexkos @ Mar 4 2019, 09:19 AM) I'm asking if the injunction toward wife in 1 tim 2 v12, is also applicable to the earlier verses, and the implication of that. Do you know that when the apostle recorded the bible, there are no chapter or verses? you get what I'm pointing at? What makes you think 1 tim 2 v9 onwards has to be all women?
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unknown warrior
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Mar 4 2019, 10:54 AM
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QUOTE(alexkos @ Mar 4 2019, 09:27 AM) hmm....I'm trying to read from the perspective of 'wife' as you said... so it's selectively to few wives in this case? In summary, 1 Timothy 2:9-10 should refer to women in general. Verse 11 onward should refer to wives in general. This can be supported by 1 Corinthians 14:34. Look at verse 35, who are those women referring to? Do you see the word husbands?
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unknown warrior
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Mar 4 2019, 10:57 AM
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QUOTE(alexkos @ Mar 4 2019, 10:56 AM) So, the correct reading for 1 Tim 2 is as follows General for men general for woman from v11 onwards, only wives Am i correct? Yes it should.
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unknown warrior
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Mar 4 2019, 01:07 PM
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QUOTE(alexkos @ Mar 4 2019, 11:46 AM) ok. I draw your attention to 1 Cor 11. What do you think of the general principle drawn by Paul, on the head of the woman is man? It's interesting to note in almost all the translation, the phrase 'The woman" is indicated, instead of just women, emphasize on "the". In ESV and Young's translation translated it as wife. But it's up to you really as I've said, not here to force you to anyone's interpretation. Either way, You'd think in life Women in general or married would never argue or speak out or teach the husband or man? Quite sure you'll agree with me in reality it does happen. So, what do you do to force women to submit according to what you've accepted in translation to be quiet and submissive? You scream at them? Whack them to submission so that they obey scripture according to what you understand? This post has been edited by unknown warrior: Mar 4 2019, 01:09 PM
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unknown warrior
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Mar 4 2019, 01:12 PM
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QUOTE(alexkos @ Mar 4 2019, 01:10 PM) So... The general principle of Paul in 1 cor 11, when it says 'the head of woman is man', is up to any interpretation? The whole context there talks about hair, how do you interpret it being quiet, cannot teach a man?
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unknown warrior
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Mar 6 2019, 09:57 AM
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Live by Faith IN the Son of God
Galatians 2:20 (NIV) - I have been crucified with Christ and I no longer live, but Christ lives in me. The life I now live in the body, I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave himself for me.
Good Day Fellow Believers.
I asked God, why at times there are believers who don't live a consistent Christian life. The Lord gave me this verse. Sometime we live by sight once too often. Meaning to say we get afraid because of circumstances or we live depending on what we think will happen.
Sometime believers live by faith alone and that too can be a problem. Why? We think just by believing (Heaven knows in what) is good enough. Problem is, sometime we don't know what we're believing in.
No Dear Friends, God's word is very clear. Unless we live by Faith IN the Son of God, Jesus Christ.....We cannot live a consistent Christian Life by the Spirit. We will live by our carnal flesh. There are no other ways, it's an automatic, either you live by God's spirit or you will by the flesh. It's inevitable.
So what does it mean to live by faith in Jesus Christ? Well it is believing every single day Jesus saves you. What does that mean? Well for every weaknesses, there is grace and there is the blood that cleanses. That God is close and loves you, don't carry the view God hates you or has distance away from you. Carrying this truth and believing, Christ love you and gave Himself for you..... carrying it close to your heart will sanctify you and helps in your Christian walk with our Lord.
God's Grace is so powerful, it will cause you to lose desire to sin.
God Bless
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unknown warrior
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Mar 7 2019, 08:38 AM
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unknown warrior
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Mar 7 2019, 09:19 AM
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unknown warrior
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Mar 11 2019, 09:53 AM
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Morning Fellow Christians.
Pray for our nation.
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unknown warrior
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Mar 21 2019, 08:22 AM
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Sylar need prayers
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unknown warrior
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Mar 23 2019, 12:14 PM
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Grace of God is not easily understood for people who are infant in the matters of righteousness.
*the reason why Christ gave the law is to bring the rich young ruler to the end of himself, reason being it's meant to abandon all hope/confidence in his own performances to the law because no one can adhere God's law perfectly.
Only Christ can.
** enough of you trying to fight, you are really an immature child.
This post has been edited by unknown warrior: Mar 23 2019, 12:23 PM
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unknown warrior
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Mar 25 2019, 08:51 AM
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QUOTE(JordanZire @ Mar 24 2019, 10:47 AM) Deleted... someone said i'm racist... i just to want... want learn christian there was nothing in what you wrote, except for the trinity part. Ya there is only 1 God in Heaven but in the person of 3, Christ, God the Father and the Holy Spirit.
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unknown warrior
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Apr 16 2019, 04:00 PM
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 All are welcome!
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unknown warrior
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Apr 24 2019, 01:32 PM
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unknown warrior
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Apr 24 2019, 01:39 PM
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unknown warrior
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Apr 27 2019, 10:08 AM
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unknown warrior
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May 31 2019, 11:49 AM
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xi%27an_SteleThe Xi'an Stele also known as the Nestorian Stele, Nestorian Stone, Nestorian Monument,[1] or Nestorian Tablet, is a Tang Chinese stele erected in 781 that documents 150 years of early Christianity in China.[2] It is a 279 cm tall limestone block with text in both Chinese and Syriac describing the existence of Christian communities in several cities in northern China. It reveals that the initial Church of the East had met recognition by the Tang Emperor Taizong, due to efforts of the Christian missionary Alopen in 635.[3] According to the Stele, Alopen and his fellow Syriac missionaries came to China from Daqin (the Eastern Roman Empire) in the ninth year of Emperor Taizong (Tai Tsung) (635), bringing sacred books and images.[4] Buried in 845, probably during religious suppression, the stele was not rediscovered until 1625. Interesting..
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unknown warrior
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Jun 21 2019, 02:08 PM
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