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 Sep 15 2019, 05:30 PM
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QUOTE(thomasthai @ Sep 12 2019, 08:21 PM) Let me ask you, did you cause your own physical birth? Bro, Of course not. What I was trying to imply with that was, if only all of us was born again of the Spirit of God, there would be much rejoicing. 😊 |
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Sep 16 2019, 11:18 AM
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QUOTE(thomasthai @ Sep 16 2019, 07:19 AM) Of course, but back to your original question on how to be born again, the answer is you can't. Bro., Just as you did not caused anything for your physical birth, you cannot cause anything for your spiritual birth. God does that. It is the Holy Spirit's ministry to cause regeneration. You are correct, it is our Almighty God who gives His Spirit to whomever He wishes and pleases, just like the wind. However before that happens, we must prove ourselves to be worthy of His Holy Spirit by the full repentance from our hearts and once a student has completed the training, one is ready to do the will of God, good works all for His glory. |
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Sep 17 2019, 05:42 PM
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Thank goodness I have got Delusional Disorder because with God everything is possible.
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Sep 17 2019, 07:29 PM
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QUOTE(KLthinker91 @ Sep 16 2019, 12:03 PM) Why can't you both be right? Hi bro., Fact: we know there is salvation through belief and repentance alone. Jesus said so himself to the thief on the cross. Fact: we know there are works to be done in the world, we have a duty. Amongst many other writings, Jesus said, give away (actually, invest) what you have, it is easier for a camel than a rich man... you know the rest. Above all things I believe God is not stupid. He would know where is the limit of one's ability to act on one's faith. He would know if one who does many good deeds is truly a believer or not. His knowledge is not bounded by space-time, he would know before we do ourselves what our future acts will be. He would even know what the potential acts of people would be - maybe that's how children and those who have never heard the Word are judged. The first shall be last and the last shall be first. We think we know who is who now, but there will certainly be many surprises when we meet again in heaven. God is not mocked. Actions are all we can see, but he sees the heart. Hence why I respectfully disagree with bolded above. Happy Malaysia day to all my fellow Christians, may God bless you in all that you are Nice to hear from you. Ah the good thief. Yes, it is true that salvation came to the good thief because of belief and repentance alone. However I cannot possibly take that route that the good thief was in, because the circumstances are completely different. Besides, from our Lord's teachings, it is clear that repentance and belief are only a subset of salvation, there are many other subsets that must be fulfilled too. Yes, our Lord looks at the heart of each and everyone of us. Perhaps my initial question about how is one born again wasn't accurate, since it did sound very much like plagiarizing Nicodemus words, when it rather should be, do we really want to be born again ? My hope is that each and everyone of us here will meet again in our Father's heavenly kingdom someday, no matter which route one decides to take, or some of the subset or all of the subset. God bless. |
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