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 Cycling V36: Road bikes - Recreational/Racing, 30km/h is 1764 benchmark

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post Aug 4 2018, 01:40 PM

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QUOTE(Seng_Kiat @ Aug 4 2018, 01:19 PM)
Guys,

To gain more stamina or endurance as well as lose weight, is it better for me to cycling on trainer with HR beat consistenly at 160bpm or do burst like train a few minutes at 180bps or so then cool down to 120-130bps and do burst again?
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post Aug 4 2018, 01:48 PM

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QUOTE(Seng_Kiat @ Aug 4 2018, 01:19 PM)
Guys,

To gain more stamina or endurance as well as lose weight, is it better for me to cycling on trainer with HR beat consistenly at 160bpm or do burst like train a few minutes at 180bps or so then cool down to 120-130bps and do burst again?
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I guess endurance requires lots of aerobic workout rather than short burst / strength. So, you need to work out your slow twitch muscles more. So, do a constant heart rate workout over a period of time, like 160bpm over 2 hours

https://www.verywellfit.com/fast-and-slow-t...-fibers-3120094

Some article above about slow and fast twitch
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QUOTE(Seng_Kiat @ Aug 4 2018, 01:19 PM)
Guys,

To gain more stamina or endurance as well as lose weight, is it better for me to cycling on trainer with HR beat consistenly at 160bpm or do burst like train a few minutes at 180bps or so then cool down to 120-130bps and do burst again?
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actually this is very deep. because, a body builder told me, our body is very very special and adapts very quickly, after consistently doing the same thing over, your body will adapt and find way to do the same routine with minimum power. so whatever you do, you burn less and less and less no matter how much you do it. i take bits of his advises and apply this way.

Go Out a ride,
(usually is tuesday)one day do high speed riding, ride at max your heart rate can take till bonk (20-40km distance of high speed).
day two easy spin (recovery) to get rid of the lactic acid build up
day three find some hilll and train (dont look small at hills! even riding 10kmh can easily max out your heartrate too, find a loop of hills, and do laps, 5 maybe? 10? or target 500m or 1000m elevation)
day four easy spin (recovery or rest day for leg, coz hill climb is no joke)
day five, fun ride, can easy do interval
day six, i believe is sunday, go for endurance ride, 100km-160km
day 7 (monday) recovery.

repeat. after 6 month you'll notice your weight dont drop much but maintain, thats when your muscle weight comes in. and your muscle's food is fat, thats when you notice a smooth burning sensation everynight during sleep. its chomping away your fat.


(non of the above is true, just a way to make you go out and ride tongue.gif )
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basically in other language,
day 1 dedicate to heart rate building and muscle building (flat road muscle)
day 3 dedicate to muscle building (mostly climbing muscle)
day 5 keeping your muscle warm
day 6 endurance training.
day 7 rest (but u can go for recovery ride)

u can choose to swap day 5 and 6, so u get rest on day 6+7

you see, riding outdoor not only uses leg, it uses your whole body to build core muscle, your arm, your mind coordination and reflexes, and even your chest flexs, due to your body weight during riding, you compress your chest a lot.... those you dont get from trainer because you get to lazy around to find the most comfortable position, heck u even can pedal sitting straight up like mtb.
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QUOTE(pussylover @ Aug 3 2018, 08:54 PM)
Get a zonda.  Not only you'll have a great alu wheel, its pretty light for its price plus you'd still have some change with that budget
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QUOTE(Seng_Kiat @ Aug 4 2018, 01:19 PM)
Guys,

To gain more stamina or endurance as well as lose weight, is it better for me to cycling on trainer with HR beat consistenly at 160bpm or do burst like train a few minutes at 180bps or so then cool down to 120-130bps and do burst again?
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If you into endurance kind of ride, I'd say go for zone 2 training, pretty much volume workout instead of intense one. Being willing to go slow allows you to do more, know what I mean?

As for lose weight, I don't know your diet, so cannot tell. Haha.

An article of zone 2 training: https://www.trainingpeaks.com/blog/zone-2-t...rance-athletes/
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post Aug 5 2018, 06:47 PM

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Thanks all for the answer.

By the way guys, i am thinking to buy a bike for my wife but I am unsurr how long she will ride. If she not, I can ride hers but the issue is I am 180cm and she is 170cm. Different size.

Is that ok if I buy size 52 as I am on 54 now but web suggest me 56.
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post Aug 6 2018, 12:04 AM

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Now that without GST, what other fee will incur if I buy cycling apparel from wiggle?
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QUOTE(ChipZ @ Aug 6 2018, 12:04 AM)
Now that without GST, what other fee will incur if I buy cycling apparel from wiggle?
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Duit kopi kot if exceed certain amount.
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QUOTE(Seng_Kiat @ Aug 5 2018, 06:47 PM)
Thanks all for the answer.

By the way guys, i am thinking to buy a bike for my wife but I am unsurr how long she will ride. If she not, I can ride hers but the issue is I am 180cm and she is 170cm. Different size.

Is that ok if I buy size 52 as I am on 54 now but web suggest me 56.
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I'm 187, I'm riding 56.
You will be struggling with 56. One size down is fine not one size up.

If giant, you will be S
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QUOTE(miaopurr @ Aug 4 2018, 01:30 PM)
kayuh on the road for hours.
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z2 like triathletes?
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post Aug 6 2018, 10:31 AM

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Triathlete that most of us know here, his Z2 is Z5 for some of us, then how?
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QUOTE(chinti @ Aug 6 2018, 09:43 AM)
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looks small. For 160+ rider ?
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QUOTE(Seng_Kiat @ Aug 5 2018, 06:47 PM)
Thanks all for the answer.

By the way guys, i am thinking to buy a bike for my wife but I am unsurr how long she will ride. If she not, I can ride hers but the issue is I am 180cm and she is 170cm. Different size.

Is that ok if I buy size 52 as I am on 54 now but web suggest me 56.
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Every brand has their own chart
Some, S = 47, suited for height 168-176
Some, S = 52, suited for height 164-172
Some, S = 50, suited for height 168-172
So please refer back to the brand chart for each bike geometry.

You have less worry. Women, has longer inseam(leg) to man. So prehaps both you and wife and very close inseam. So it's not difficult to share a same bike geometry.
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QUOTE(rads78 @ Aug 6 2018, 10:31 AM)
Triathlete that most of us know here, his Z2 is Z5 for some of us, then how?
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go to triathlete thread
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post Aug 6 2018, 11:01 AM

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QUOTE(KTCY @ Aug 6 2018, 10:52 AM)
looks small. For 160+ rider ?
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170cm, but short legs cry.gif
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QUOTE(ieR @ Aug 4 2018, 10:39 AM)
Getting carbon wheel at that price point will end up with cheap hubs with bearing breaking after a year (two of my cycling bud's superteam just changed bearing).
Even with carbon they don't weight light either, 1.7+1.8kg for carbon wheel? Rm2k can get u good alloy at the same or lighter weight with better hubs! And reliable braking.

A lot of time we get blinded by price point and dump reliability aside.

Surprisingly, HUNT (uk) also falls into the "cheap china" wheel catagory after I inspect my friend hunt, it's build with Taiwan cheap parts! His bearing and freehub pawl(suspect novatec) a bit worn off after 400km only. I felt he was dupe by HUNT.
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Since you mentioned novatec... how are their wheelset? I heard from here(Jetfly) they're light and reliable? Was contemplating between that and Fulcrum Racing 5 LG...
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QUOTE(chinti @ Aug 6 2018, 09:43 AM)
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Nice thumbsup.gif

Probably replace the rear reflector with a saddle bag.

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QUOTE(aquilaTE @ Aug 6 2018, 11:13 AM)
Nice  thumbsup.gif

Probably replace the rear reflector for saddle bag.
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