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post Jul 5 2018, 03:35 PM, updated 8y ago

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Hi All,
I wanted to hide some area in my house and I was thinking of flush sliding door system as shown in this video.



I've asked Hafele Malaysia but they haven't responded yet. I did talk with my local carpenter, they have no idea what I'm talking about. I was wondering anybody did this before here? how much does it cost? If you guys can share your contacts that will be great. It doesn't have to be Hafele, any brand-less system or china made is also fine.


p/s: I'm based in Penang by the way, so prefer nearby contractors.

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post Jul 5 2018, 09:09 PM

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Hettich also got such a system but whether its sold here or not I dunno
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Never even seen this before in Malaysia.
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post Jul 5 2018, 09:25 PM

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Hafele have such system but different design.

In hafele it is for wardrobe door.

Try to get their thick catalog book to search or online.
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post Jul 6 2018, 11:04 AM

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Ikea has something similar. It is know as Hasvik pair of sliding door.

HASVIK pair of sliding doors

Just not sure if the size can fit into your space and if you can do the creativity of "Ikea Hack" smile.gif
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So many moving parts, above and below, maintenance and failure rate most likely to be higher too.
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post Jul 9 2018, 09:54 AM

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QUOTE(idoblu @ Jul 5 2018, 09:09 PM)
Hettich also got such a system but whether its sold here or not I dunno
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Thanks, will check them out.

QUOTE(ozak @ Jul 5 2018, 09:25 PM)
Hafele have such system but different design.

In hafele it is for wardrobe door.

Try to get their thick catalog book to search or online.
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Yes you're right. Hafele have responded to my inquiries that they have similar system over here called Finetta flat front.

QUOTE(cvshi515 @ Jul 6 2018, 11:04 AM)
Ikea has something similar. It is know as Hasvik pair of sliding door.

HASVIK pair of sliding doors

Just not sure if the size can fit into your space and if you can do the creativity of "Ikea Hack"  smile.gif
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I think this looks like conventional sliding doors? I'm looking for the flush sliding door to give the impression of false walls.
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post Jul 9 2018, 10:21 AM

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Just to share, this is the space where I plan to add the flush sliding doors. (ignore the current wardrobe, plan to replace it built in wardrobe)
My plan is to have the sliding door flush with the walls so it looks like a false walls instead of a wardrobe.

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Julie from Hafele Malaysia have been very helpful on replying my inquires, will share more if I have more updates.
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do share the update/finishing TS
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QUOTE(mentalmuz @ Jul 9 2018, 10:21 AM)
Just to share, this is the space where I plan to add the flush sliding doors. (ignore the current wardrobe, plan to replace it built in wardrobe)
My plan is to have the sliding door flush with the walls so it looks like a false walls instead of a wardrobe.

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Julie from Hafele Malaysia have been very helpful on replying my inquires, will share more if I have more updates.
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wall to wall AND to ceilign wardrobe looks much better. Your current type will end up looking messy.

I might look into these flush system as well for a door, cause I need hide it
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post Jul 9 2018, 04:19 PM

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QUOTE(MeToo @ Jul 9 2018, 02:14 PM)
wall to wall AND to ceilign wardrobe looks much better. Your current type will end up looking messy.

I might look into these flush system as well for a door, cause I need hide it
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yes, going to replace current wardrobe with built in full height/width wardrobe. please share your false door renovation when its done. would love to learn in case in the future I wanted to do the same.
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QUOTE(mentalmuz @ Jul 9 2018, 04:19 PM)
yes, going to replace current wardrobe with built in full height/width wardrobe. please share your false door renovation when its done. would love to learn in case in the future I wanted to do the same.
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Due to the positioning of my bathroom... i gotta remove the traditional door and replace it with a sliding one.

And since my bathroom access is in the walk in wardrobe, i initially plan to do something liek this, using a mirror door (double up as mirror for my wardrobe), but a flush door system would be much nicer, and easier to deadbolt from inside the bathroom.

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post Jul 10 2018, 07:26 PM

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QUOTE(mentalmuz @ Jul 9 2018, 10:21 AM)
Just to share, this is the space where I plan to add the flush sliding doors. (ignore the current wardrobe, plan to replace it built in wardrobe)
My plan is to have the sliding door flush with the walls so it looks like a false walls instead of a wardrobe.

Attached Image

Julie from Hafele Malaysia have been very helpful on replying my inquires, will share more if I have more updates.
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Is the drop above the suitcases a plaster ceiling hiding a beam, a beam or a plaster ceiling with too much a drop? The reason will be made clear if space above is a plaster ceiling which can be reclaimed to the point that whatever above that is not obstructed.

What will you replace the wardrobe internals with. Ikea Algot is quite flexible here.

One brand in Italy that seems to be very catchy is Caccaro's wardrobe systems especially the Camerino DB range here which are engineered up to 290cm in height. Their premise is a wardrobe are modular storage blocks that can be arranged flexibly to fit the room. It allows the owner to take advantage of the space in the room extending the wardrobe out etc or for the same volume, arrange it according to the room layout. But of course some things not use here e.g. shoe storage. You may not need to emulate their system entirely but the principle that can be adapted is if the room is large enough, can a bigger wardrobe be placed here say for the spouse etc.

QUOTE(MeToo @ Jul 9 2018, 04:40 PM)
Due to the positioning of my bathroom... i gotta remove the traditional door and replace it with a sliding one.

And since my bathroom access is in the walk in wardrobe, i initially plan to do something liek this, using a mirror door (double up as mirror for my wardrobe), but a flush door system would be much nicer, and easier to deadbolt from inside the bathroom.

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Can be done but easiest is bi-fold which can be airtight. They should have glass panels instead of cheap acrylic.

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QUOTE(halcyon27 @ Jul 10 2018, 07:26 PM)

Can be done but easiest is bi-fold which can be airtight. They should have glass panels instead of cheap acrylic.
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Biofold those plastic/alluminium ones?

My current house have them, they look cheap, doesnt last, and overall very unsatisfactory...
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QUOTE(MeToo @ Jul 10 2018, 07:37 PM)
Biofold those plastic/alluminium ones?

My current house have them, they look cheap, doesnt last, and overall very unsatisfactory...
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Yes, depends on the construction...they talked about it here. I also had use those PVC accordion type doors before but they are not air tight. The other one is here along the same construction type except for barn doors.

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post Jul 11 2018, 12:26 PM

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QUOTE(halcyon27 @ Jul 10 2018, 07:26 PM)
Is the drop above the suitcases a plaster ceiling hiding a beam, a beam or a plaster ceiling with too much a drop? The reason will be made clear if space above is a plaster ceiling which can be reclaimed to the point that whatever above that is not obstructed.

What will you replace the wardrobe internals with. Ikea Algot is quite flexible here.

One brand in Italy that seems to be very catchy is Caccaro's wardrobe systems especially the Camerino DB range here which are engineered up to 290cm in height. Their premise is a wardrobe are modular storage blocks that can be arranged flexibly to fit the room. It allows the owner to take advantage of the space in the room extending the wardrobe out etc or for the same volume, arrange it according to the room layout. But of course some things not use here e.g. shoe storage. You may not need to emulate their system entirely but the principle that can be adapted is if the room is large enough, can a bigger wardrobe be placed here say for the spouse etc.
Can be done but easiest is bi-fold which can be airtight. They should have glass panels instead of cheap acrylic.
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yes, there is a beam there. Internal originally I wanted to custom made but the depth is quite odd for the carpenter. The Camerino range looks neat, I like the U-shape wardrobe, I might show this to my carpenter and see if he can built this. Plus I think folding door will be much easier to install for him compare to flush sliding door. thanks for the sharing!
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QUOTE(mentalmuz @ Jul 11 2018, 12:26 PM)
yes, there is a beam there. Internal originally I wanted to custom made but the depth is quite odd for the carpenter. The Camerino range looks neat, I like the U-shape wardrobe, I might show this to my carpenter and see if he can built this. Plus I think folding door will be much easier to install for him compare to flush sliding door. thanks for the sharing!
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You may save carpentry costs for just the part that juts out. The wall behind where the old wardrobe is, Ikea Algot system allows you to customise as you see fit. Something like this.

Here is one of their videos. DB= dressing box


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post Jul 27 2018, 12:25 AM

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QUOTE(mentalmuz @ Jul 5 2018, 03:35 PM)
Hi All,
I wanted to hide some area in my house and I was thinking of flush sliding door system as shown in this video.



I've asked Hafele Malaysia but they haven't responded yet. I did talk with my local carpenter, they have no idea what I'm talking about. I was wondering anybody did this before here? how much does it cost? If you guys can share your contacts that will be great. It doesn't have to be Hafele, any brand-less system or china made is also fine.
p/s: I'm based in Penang by the way, so prefer nearby contractors.
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Hi , I am looking for this as well . Can I know how much u get from Hafele ? Good to use ? They install for u or u buy back and DIY ? Or u get others similar ? TQ
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QUOTE(seancstan @ Jul 27 2018, 07:06 AM)
RM30 is worth trying....
cant even buy a screw from those german buggers for RM30 sweat.gif
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post Jul 27 2018, 01:22 PM

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QUOTE(JayNe S @ Jul 27 2018, 12:25 AM)
Hi , I am looking for this as well . Can I know how much u get from Hafele ? Good to use ? They install for u or u buy back and DIY ? Or u get others similar ? TQ
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Hafele does not provide installation but if you’re in klang valley they can recommend you some installer. As for me, I’m still surveying around. 1 carpenter quoted me about RM14k for the wardrobe with the flush system. A bit steep for me as they quote for normal sliding door wardrobe was only RM7k. So it’s about 100% premium just for aesthetic purpose. I was hoping it would just cost me 30-40% but for 100% I need to think really2 hard to commit 😅😅

QUOTE(seancstan @ Jul 27 2018, 07:06 AM)
Wow this is very cheap. Sadly I can’t read Chinese, I’ll need to get my friends to translate this for me. Thanks!

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QUOTE(mentalmuz @ Jul 9 2018, 10:21 AM)
Just to share, this is the space where I plan to add the flush sliding doors. (ignore the current wardrobe, plan to replace it built in wardrobe)
My plan is to have the sliding door flush with the walls so it looks like a false walls instead of a wardrobe.

Attached Image

Julie from Hafele Malaysia have been very helpful on replying my inquires, will share more if I have more updates.
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Hafele and other bigger hardware store had this mechanism, but then, base on my understanding on what your thinking is, you wish to make an almost conseal sliding door as it look like part of the wall?

Anyhow, there is something you may need to consider, 1st, that will totally wont appear like a hidden door, becoz you need left and right support to let the door close, coz existing wall will not be straight like what you expect can be flat enough to let you to let the door close nicely, so you will need to see both left and right penal on the surface. 2nd, top and the bottom will need to leave a gab, may be a big gab to let the door have enough space to slide, and if you notice on the video, when the time they install the door on to cabinet, they need to using the top part to adjust and alignment the door, so you must of coz need a space of enough to slot in the hand or the tools, so there will not serve the purpose even yes, the door is flush, but you still see a big gab on top and bottom and the penal on the left and right
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QUOTE(idoblu @ Jul 27 2018, 10:33 AM)
RM30 is worth trying....
cant even buy a screw from those german buggers for RM30  sweat.gif
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That is not the actual price. It should be at least 10 times more.
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QUOTE(MeToo @ Jul 9 2018, 04:40 PM)
Due to the positioning of my bathroom... i gotta remove the traditional door and replace it with a sliding one.

And since my bathroom access is in the walk in wardrobe, i initially plan to do something liek this, using a mirror door (double up as mirror for my wardrobe), but a flush door system would be much nicer, and easier to deadbolt from inside the bathroom.

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This your house? Uber nice, weh! rclxms.gif
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https://youtu.be/D_3V6HvOY3M

Anyone install this?

 

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