RPG-30

Well...

Isn't it only the latest models of T-80 and T-90 that can fire Vacuum-1?

The PT-91M could have been considered one of the top T-72 derivatives at the time it was bought. IMO it's now been surpassed.

2 of 3 new Teluk Bintuni Class LST for Indonesian Navy currently under construction at PT Daya Radar Utama Shipyard in Lampung. Launching of all 3 units are scheduled in this year. Credit to military_buzz.

Man, I don't understand these SEA countries where the military is very2 powerful until civilian leaders are practically their puppets. Thailand, Indonesia, Philippines (once) all like this.

Lucky Malaysia not the same.

liaoning to be sold to pak navy

their most capable ad ship shud be their ex-ohp class
prolly can ask usa as they got many in mothball

the problem is what plane they gonna be using

RIP to the kopassus personnel

Aster is expensive. And Sg has invested in it. I do not think you are eligible for Standard missile. So, in the event Indonesia actually buys such a frigate (which I doubt will happen soon because of the costs), it will be equipped with a short to medium range missile system like CAAM or CAAM-ER and not Aster 30 or Standard.

Yeah especially they have looked at the Iver Huitfeldt Class Frigate not only once but 3x already. Lol.

Indonesian Defence and Navy officials who had visited and looked at the Iver Huitfeldt on separate occasion:

Looks like it could be the Iver Huitfeldt afterall as the Indonesian Coordinating Minister of Maritime Affairs Luhut Binsar Panjaitan hinted that PT PAL to build 138 meters warships with technology transfer from Denmark. Iver Huitfeldt length is also 138 meters. According to the latest Janes article looks like they want to accelerate the procurement process for this year. Btw from a design aspect i really like the Omega Frigate design.
https://lancerdefense.com/2019/01/25/menko-...n-ukuran-138-m/

I was talking about Aster 30 missile and not Aster 15. Aster 15 is the equivalent of ESSM or CAMM-ER with range in excess of 30km or as reported by some publications max range of 40km. Qatar's treasury is overflowing with money and unlike Indonesia is a creditor nation and not debtor.

Again, I do not think this deal will happen any time soon.

The Iver is not exactly a new design - 10 year old. And if Indonesia is not going to install a long range missile system like Aster 30, the frigate will be a pared down version i.e. why in the world are you going buy an expensive but dated Smart-L radar. Euro navies are already moving on to planar arrays in the next evolution of their frigates.

Well, I will be keen to see that happens meanwhile. Azerbaijan bought aster 30? May buy and bought are 2 different things. Further, they do not have much military goods to spend on, relatively speaking. Turkey has bought or may buy? Or S-400? And Turkey is a NATO member.

When and if the Iver comes out, it will be swimming with Australia's Hobart and Type 26 frigates, latest Chinese ships, Singapore's upgraded Formidables (hmm, I need to do a post on this) and MRCV frigates, etc.

<edited>..you know what, I dont want to be demoralizing. Lets just wait and see..and I hope Indonesia actually buys this. I am also keen to see the specs. But I do think that it will be pared down version of the Iver. /thumbsup

Qatar is rich as hell, they can drop money on dozens and dozens of fighters in one shot

Both Algeria and Morocco only carry Aster on one ship each, and only Aster 15 which comes at a vastly different price point from Aster 30, because the 15 is point defence and the 30 is area defence

The total cost of operating Aster 30 also includes a better radar which can be expensive!

That would buy and outfit two Ivers comfortably I think, but only one AAW destroyer on a level with Type 45 or Hobart
Not very useful as it gives no quantities. And what is this "Generation" business

The Aster 30 and MEADS at least is wrong according to defense-aerospace:


SAMP/T Aster 30 vs PAC-3 Patriot contract costs

where each battery is 1 radar and support set plus 3 firing batteries

Also states that Aster 30 is ~$10 million per missile compared to ~$8 million for PAC-3 MSE

ESSM is ~$1.5-2 million per so it's not surprising I would think to put Aster 15 somewhere arond the ~$4m mark

Well, you have to define what is considered "worthy"