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icemanfx
post Jun 19 2018, 10:27 AM

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QUOTE(damonjun11 @ Jun 19 2018, 09:40 AM)
I do not think it will be so soon. Our country median age is only around 28 yrs old.

It is way lower than SG that their median age is around 40 yrs old.

Msia's market still has rooms to grow. The issue is that the wages is still very low and slow in growing.

For a typical comparison, 28 yrs old is relatively young nation and it is the age where people started to commit their big ticket purchases.

Once the new govt able to commit some effective measures in tackling the low wages. We might be able to see some booms.

As of now, yea, market still gloomy.

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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Jun 19 2018, 09:43 AM)
the major bumi population still giving alot of new birth at a good rate wor.... how these reports calculate their data? ageing nation by 12 years later abit too soon... then how about singapore....?
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KUCHING: Malaysia is set to be an ageing nation by 2030 when 15 per cent of its total population now become senior citizens by then – given the age group 60 years old and above is classified under that category.

In 2014, the Malaysian population was 30.1 million, of which 2.65 million or 8.8 per cent were senior citizens, said Minister of Women, Family and Community Development Datuk Seri Rohani Abdul Karim.

http://www.theborneopost.com/2018/03/13/ma...-2030-minister/


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post Jun 19 2018, 10:32 AM

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QUOTE(ManutdGiggs @ Jun 19 2018, 10:18 AM)
Why fall into aunty icy trap ar🤣🤣🤣

She ll name u 101 sos but has shown none so far. I hav opened arms n legs oso kangkang waited since 2012. Pls pray she hoot me with sos tis round. 😜😜😜
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her sos below reliable ka?

15% senior citizen considered as ageing nation already? what kind of benchmark is this... still got 85% not gonna be spending on property or big ticket items ke? how about those that born after year 2014?

QUOTE(icemanfx @ Jun 19 2018, 10:27 AM)
KUCHING: Malaysia is set to be an ageing nation by 2030 when 15 per cent of its total population now become senior citizens by then – given the age group 60 years old and above is classified under that category.

In 2014, the Malaysian population was 30.1 million, of which 2.65 million or 8.8 per cent were senior citizens, said Minister of Women, Family and Community Development Datuk Seri Rohani Abdul Karim.

http://www.theborneopost.com/2018/03/13/ma...-2030-minister/
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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Jun 19 2018, 10:32 AM)
her sos below reliable ka?

15% senior citizen considered as ageing nation already? what kind of benchmark is this... still got 85% not gonna be spending on property or big ticket items ke? how about those that born after year 2014?
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Definition from un

http://www.un.org/en/sections/issues-depth/ageing/
https://www.unfpa.org/ageing

incidentally, malaysia is projected to become a aged nation in about 2050, when about a quarter of population will be over 60 y.o.

https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/se-asia/m...ageing-the-star
https://www.dosm.gov.my/v1/index.php?r=colu...Wl1RGg2MnBSZz09


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post Jun 19 2018, 11:22 AM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Jun 19 2018, 11:18 AM)
Definition from un

http://www.un.org/en/sections/issues-depth/ageing/
https://www.unfpa.org/ageing

incidentally, malaysia is projected to become a aged nation in about 2050, when about a quarter of population will be over 60 y.o.

https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/se-asia/m...ageing-the-star
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Can aunty icy giv prediction on birth rate for the next 30yrs???
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The national fertility rate in 2016 is the lowest rate ever recorded since the formation of Malaysia in 1963, Chief Statistician Datuk Seri Dr Mohd Uzir Mahidin revealed.

He said according to the Vital Statistics Malaysia 2017 report, the fertility rate per woman aged 15 to 49 in 2016 was 1.9 babies, a decrease from 2.0 babies in 2015.

"The total fertility rate in Malaysia has been below the replacement level of 2.1 babies, which is the average number of babies born per woman throughout her reproductive life has been insufficient to replace herself and her partner," he said in a statement here today.

http://www.thesundaily.my/news/2017/11/01/...016-lowest-1963

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post Jun 19 2018, 11:43 AM

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The national fertility rate in 2016 is the lowest rate ever recorded since the formation of Malaysia in 1963, Chief Statistician Datuk Seri Dr Mohd Uzir Mahidin revealed.

He said according to the Vital Statistics Malaysia 2017 report, the fertility rate per woman aged 15 to 49 in 2016 was 1.9 babies, a decrease from 2.0 babies in 2015.

"The total fertility rate in Malaysia has been below the replacement level of 2.1 babies, which is the average number of babies born per woman throughout her reproductive life has been insufficient to replace herself and her partner," he said in a statement here today.

http://www.thesundaily.my/news/2017/11/01/...016-lowest-1963
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Wat bout ur prediction??? Higher fertility rate with new malai???
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post Jun 19 2018, 12:14 PM

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U know d quote about lies and statistics... Only well trained ppl should interpret statistics. Malaysia is most definitely NOT an aged nation.
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QUOTE(empatTan @ Jun 19 2018, 12:14 PM)
U know d quote about lies and statistics... Only well trained ppl should interpret statistics. Malaysia is most definitely NOT  an aged nation.
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Statistic is to mislead in different ways on different targeted grps.


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this is an era of BIG DATA, 大数据 where our handphone knows more than we think we know ourselves. The data is real time, actual quantities and after cleaning away the noise, the computer can really analyse and predict how the whole population and individual would react.

we are way far behind in terms of BIG DATA. it is blessing in disguise because it also means giving away our privacy.

and sadly, we are talking about statistic that has no real application to individual, data that are arguable, and useless for the people in large.


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post Jun 19 2018, 02:31 PM

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I'm 90's and mortgage broker, yet I don't own a property. How sad

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'88 here.. 2 props.. 1 double storey terrace at puncak alam.. 1 single storey terrace at kepong.. Both also subsale.. Now looking for new project
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QUOTE(empatTan @ Jun 19 2018, 12:14 PM)
U know d quote about lies and statistics... Only well trained ppl should interpret statistics. Malaysia is most definitely NOT  an aged nation.
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QUOTE(GangHo @ Jun 19 2018, 02:01 PM)
this is an era of BIG DATA, 大数据 where our handphone knows more than we think we know ourselves. The data is real time, actual quantities and after cleaning away the noise, the computer can really analyse and predict how the whole population and individual would react.

we are way far behind in terms of BIG DATA. it is blessing in disguise because it also means giving away our privacy.

and sadly, we are talking about statistic that has no real application to individual, data that are arguable, and useless for the people in large.
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Statistics is like big data, available to most to read but few could interpret or understand.

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QUOTE(MADReaLJL @ Jun 19 2018, 02:33 PM)
'88 here.. 2 props.. 1 double storey terrace at puncak alam.. 1 single storey terrace at kepong.. Both also subsale.. Now looking for new project
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Do u mind sharing why you chose subsale previously? And what makes you wanna buy a new project for your next property?
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post Jun 19 2018, 02:44 PM

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We undoubtedly hv a young population needing houses. But, they r generally poor. So, we must match these people with credit. Even d ones in non traditional, shadow economy jobs...

Then, another boom will occur...
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QUOTE(jo8981 @ Jun 19 2018, 02:41 PM)
Do u mind sharing why you chose subsale previously? And what makes you wanna buy a new project for your next property?
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Same query from me, usually subsale buyer they have much more better holding power as price of property stagnant for secondary market whilst primary market pricing keep rising.
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QUOTE(jo8981 @ Jun 19 2018, 02:41 PM)
Do u mind sharing why you chose subsale previously? And what makes you wanna buy a new project for your next property?
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Sorry to interrupt.

Bought two property. One in 2016 (subsale). Another this year (new dev).

Got put off all this while and renting close to 9 years due to the fact people kept on chanting "waiting for prop burst".

Got tired of it. If only i went for gut feeling back then. Could have bought 4 prop with the cost i am paying for 2 now.

Bought new becos no deposit and free legal and S&P.

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QUOTE(empatTan @ Jun 19 2018, 02:44 PM)
We undoubtedly hv a young population needing houses. But, they r generally poor. So, we must match these people with credit. Even d ones in non traditional, shadow economy jobs...

Then, another boom will occur...
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providing easy credit to the poor (i.e subprime) is unsustainable and likely will end up like subprime crisis in u.s. in 2007.

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QUOTE(ngph988 @ Jun 19 2018, 02:55 PM)
Same query from me, usually subsale buyer they have much more better holding power as price of property stagnant for secondary market whilst primary market pricing keep rising.
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could primary market price rise from developer overpricing?

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Jun 19 2018, 02:59 PM)
providing easy credit to the poor (i.e subprime) is unsustainable and likely will end up like subprime crisis in u.s. in 2007.
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Malaysia is not US, aunty. Subprime is a word that has different meanings here and in US. Some ppl whom u think r poor here, r actually far from poor...
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post Jun 19 2018, 03:10 PM

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QUOTE(empatTan @ Jun 19 2018, 03:07 PM)
Malaysia is not US, aunty. Subprime is a word that has different meanings here and in US. Some ppl whom u think r poor here, r actually far from poor...
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thumbup.gif thumbup.gif agreed.... there are just so much more in msian pocket than the official statistic reported... alot of cash rich buyers also still wanna take loan from bank to better manage their cash flow despite they are actually able to pay for a full property by cash...

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