Is the color of nano cell really much better than triluminous/wcg display? I didn't get the chance to compare LG SUHD and Sony triluminous side by side. Need more input from sifus here

Also is the new SK8000 series better than the SJ800?

This post has been edited by berrycoo~: Jun 14 2018, 10:50 PM

In all honesty , every year the TV makers tend to come out with all sort of fancy words for the technology . The Nano Cell is basically a variation of the Quantum Dot technology found in the Samsung QLED display . But at the end of the day , what we really care about are the results , a.k.a the numbers measured by the Pro. We look at the numbers , the coverage of color and the color volume , instead of the fancy terms.


From what I can see , Nano Cell isn't nearly as good as LG claimed . As the standards set by UHD Alliance , A TV with WCG needs to be able to show at least 90% of the P3 color gamut , a TV carrying the Nano Cell tag should be exceeding this value , but they are still quite behind comparing with the more expensive TVs. The new Samsung QLED are able to display almost 100% of the P3 colors coverage with the OLED TVs following closely behind.



And no , in this case my suggestion isn't base on the specification itself , but because of the Panel itself . Since you play your TV in the living room , you would have benefit to have a wider viewing angle , such as the occasion of having guests in the house , or you wish to lay on the couch at the left corner for some casual game time. On top of that the LG SUHD models having some pretty good ANTI Reflection display which can , to a certain degree fight off the reflection in a bright room.


VA panel is more suitable for private room , like bed room or your personal gaming room , where it is darker and the picture quality will receive a greater boost displaying blacker black.

This post has been edited by Convael: Oct 2 2018, 02:29 AM

Hmm, for my case I don't really need the viewing angle because mainly will be using this alone. Yea I do need anti reflection as there is sunlight from the side. Another main factor for me is the picture quality, or color reproduction tbe. Like I am not sure why Samsung's color is always abit cool (or washed out/pale). Is it because of a setting problem?

This post has been edited by berrycoo~: Jun 14 2018, 11:37 PM

What is your take? Sony. Lg. Sammy?

Not sure yet. Still very undecided The new LG SK8000 series sounds promising with image processor from their previous OLED tv

This post has been edited by berrycoo~: Jun 15 2018, 12:12 AM

If you sit too far from the screen , then the upgrade to UHD TV isn't going to worth it

However , everyone has a preference . If you like what you are seeing , no one has the rights to say you're wrong.

Thanks for sharing.. i will try to adjust the distance to find the best seating for me

Their performance are in the same ballpark , but since the SK8000 comes with a newer CPU it is only natural to assume the TV will be a little more responsive in the user interface.





This post has been edited by Convael: Jun 15 2018, 06:51 AM

If you don't need the wider viewing angles you can pretty much give up on the IPS panel .



If picture quality is important to you , contrast rating of the TV should be taken into consideration , hence the VA panels from Samsung .
For a brighter room you will need a fairly bright TV as well , higher brightness can overcome the glare from other light source to preserve the picture quality of the TV.

Now this can be a bit of a challenge , because at this budget I am not sure if there is a TV that is both bright enough and have good contrast (which translate into picture quality )

This post has been edited by Convael: Jun 15 2018, 07:02 AM

i am choosing my 4k tv too...things in my mind is sammy 7100 55 inches. Any good suggestion on other brand?

Next is i am thinking on my av receiver, how should i connect all my wires.

Suppose is all 4k source direct to TV. and TV need to have a optical source to my old AV. The max audio setting i can get is 5.1 DTS. Without any TRUEHD or MASTER HD.

Budget approximate ?

What do you use your TV for most of the time ?

How is the room condition of your TV, bright , dim or dark ?

This post has been edited by Convael: Jun 15 2018, 08:15 AM

Budget? Prefer to <3k. Previously ask abt Sony x75 around $3600. Browse around and saw sammy with all HDR features <3k.

TV usage? stream 720 program.

Room condition? Room bright in the morning session.

Was getting a rebate from electronic purchase. Was thinking to add a 4K TV by topping up a bit. Meanwhile saw Haier TV around $2500 with all features, follow by LG, toshiba, philips, and sammy ($3000)...

With this plan to upgrade TV 1st (Ya, how much is the shop charge to trade in any old 42 inch LED TV lately?), later maybe AV (such as Dannon 2500 or onkyo)

Thanks

What about the new image processor?

Actually I am not that hardcore into TV. So the best that fits my budget would do. PQ of the TV is my main concern. Yes the living room might be bright during afternoons but I can pull down the curtains etc so the tv need not be that bright. So for my case I should go for the Samsung 55" NU7400 rather than LG 49" SUHD?

There are no reports of it being exceptional better . Most modern 4k TV can do a good job of upscaling older content , some ( like Sony ) can do slightly better to produce cleaner image. Again the difference is so minor , most people wouldn't notice the difference ( if there is any ) .





If picture quality is your concern , you will need to look for TV with darker black , hence the contrast ratings.


The Samsung nu7400 is brighter on average (300+cd/m2), probably at the same level as Mu6100 / nu7100 . Because it lacks any sort of local dimming , it is can't to produce the bright highlights you see from the HDR content typically mastered at above 1000cd/m2 + . This TV are mostly in VA panels so it will have much better contrast than the LG SJ800, thus producing better picture quality , especially in the darker room.


On the other hand , the LG sJ800 is equipped with local dimming system , a very underwhelming one that is . But it is better than nothing . The local dimming can brighten different areas of the screen up to 600cd/m2 + , so the HDR effects will look better on this TV. But outside of the HDR mode , it is not a very bright TV ( average brightness ~ 220 cd/m2 )

This is assuming you have a lot of HDR compatible movies / games to watch . For SDR content , they appear to be performing similarly
Neither TV are bright enough to fight off the glare if there is sunlight in the room

If you are looking for brighter TV, the Sharp 6800x is brighter than both of these 2 TV but can usually be found at similar price tags




Most of the entry level 4k TV can only process the HDR metadata, they cannot really display the true effect of HDR . The only TVs that truly able to show off HDR in its most gorgeous form are the OLED TV and the very high-end LED TV which usually cost ~ 10k


Especially base on the content you watch , you don't have to worry too much about HDR .


I remain skeptical of the Chinese brands such as Haier , Skyworth , and to a certain Degree , Sharp since its acquisition by Taiwan

This post has been edited by Convael: Jun 15 2018, 01:57 PM

So I can say that for gaming and watching tv show purpose, its better to get VA panel?

I don't really get this local dimming thing. On samsung website they claim the nu7400 has uhd dimming. Is that not local dimming? Also how about the X7500F/X7000E? 55" X7500F using what panel and do they have local dimming? Is it worth getting the 55" X7000E compared to the nu7400? Since its quite cheap now and VA panel as well.

Sony KD49X7500F.....RM2690

P.Jaya/SS2

so which is better? Sammy, lg, Toshiba?

Sony FTW!

KD55x7000e ~RM2.6k

You wont regret.

Trust me when i say for 4K, size matters more than any slight bump in quality.

sony without gamma dimming???

The difference is marginal , so just pick whichever you can find cheaper .

Whichever purpose you are using it for , as long as you get the chance to sit directly in front of your TV , you should go a VA instead of IPS


Local Dimming exists to dim the backlight of the TV so the dark area on the screen will appear more black , creating an overall stronger contrast of the picture , thus enhancing picture quality . The UHD dimming found in Samsung TV is basically a CE Dimming system , where it dims entire screen at once . While this will darken the area to create deeper black levels , unfortunately it will also dim the brighter area / highlights of the other area , so it isn't very efficient and cannot be compared with Full Array Local dimming system.

This post has been edited by Convael: Jun 18 2018, 02:52 PM