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post May 22 2007, 09:51 PM

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u have your ceo being the one who cheated on the accounts because he's a very big shareholder ?? yea very likely it drop. it's actually surprising it only drop 30 cents today. because the news was out in thestar online. tomorrow publish in newspapers more ppl read thus pushing price down
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I have somemore article, but i need help from someone who can read chinese to translate :

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Li Ka Shing 李嘉誠:中國股將失控趕快出場 推薦給朋友 列印
updated:2007-05-19 18:18:43 MYT



(北京訊)中國股市泡沫化嚴重,已讓香港首富李嘉誠週四破例出口警告投資人對中國股市應居高思危,而英美兩大外資機構中國區負責人也向投資人示警,認為中股多頭行情即將失控,若泡沫破滅將嚴重衝擊香港股市。

美林集團中國區主席劉二飛在北京一場私募基金會議上表示,中國股市指數今年已飆漲84%,投資人應縮減對陸股的投資部位。


劉二飛說:"股價不僅過高而且逐漸失去控制。現在是出場的絕佳時機,也就是說現在不是投資的時候。"

他指出,中股股價過高不代表投資人不能做長期投資,但最好把檯面上的籌碼減少一點。

無獨有偶,香港上海匯豐銀行執行董事王冬勝接受香港電台訪問時也警告,中國企業已佔香港股市大約四成的規模,若中股泡沫破滅勢必嚴重影響香港。

王冬勝說:"如果有任何政策可抑制中國的經濟成長,將會直接影響這些企業(在香港上市的中國企業),進而影響港股的表現。"

王冬勝指出,最近市場擔憂大陸過熱是有根據的,若中國股市崩盤,對香港股市的衝擊會"相當嚴重"。

李嘉誠:擔心股市確有泡沫現象

身兼長江實業與和記黃埔董事長的香港億萬富豪李嘉誠,一天前才提出警告說:"身為中國人,我非常擔心股票市場。現在本益比是50至60倍,這的確有泡沫現象。我當然不希望看到泡沫破滅,投資人最好更小心一點。"

中國股熱度不退,自2月27日全球股災以來,中國滬深300種指數(CSI 300)已大漲48%,上海證券交易所綜合指數上週更首度衝破4000點大關。分析師估計,上證綜合指數成份股的本益比已攀升到50倍左右,遠高於亞洲平均值的14至18倍。

過去3年來,中國經濟每年都以10%以上的速度成長,吸引滿手現金的外資蜂擁而入,進而推升中股行情。

中国推出一系列紧缩举措
2007年05月19日09:45大 | 中 | 小

中国政府周五加强了对过热经济的调控力度,虽然所采取的一系列紧缩措施之前大都已经使用过,但此次央行选择将这些措施在同一时间推出,做法可谓颇不寻常。

中国政府周五公布一系列收紧货币政策的举措,并表示将扩大美元/人民币汇率日交易区间,进一步加强了对经济过热的调控力度。


Can anyone tell me what is Superman Li is talking about?
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post May 22 2007, 10:21 PM

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(The Beijing news) the Chinese stock market froth is serious, has let Hong Kong richest family Li Jiacheng Thursday make an exception the exportation to warn the investor should have advantage to the Chinese stock market thinks the danger, but the English America two big foreign capitals organizations China area person in charge also shows the police to the investor, thought the stock quotations soon lose control, if the froth will be disillusioned seriously attacks the Hong Kong stock market. Beautiful forest group China area President Liu two flies privately in Beijing solicits in the fund conference to indicate that, Chinese stock market index this year the anabatic wind rose 84%, the investor should reduce to the land stock investment spot. Liu two flies said that, "The stock price not only has been high moreover gradually loses the control. Now is enters the stage 絕 the good opportunity, in other words now is not investment time." He pointed out that, center the stock stock price excessively high cannot make the long-term investment on behalf of the investor, but is best the floor in chip reduces 1.. Not come singly but in pairs, Hong Kong Shanghai Hongkong and Shanghai Bank execution trustee Wang Tungsheng accepts when the Hong Kong broadcasting station visit also warned that, the Chinese business already occupies the Hong Kong stock market about four tenths scales, if center the stock froth will be disillusioned inevitably seriously affects Hong Kong. Wang Tungsheng said that, "If has any policy to be possible to suppress Chinese the economical growth, will be able directly to affect these enterprises (the Chinese enterprise which will go on the market in Hong Kong), then influence port stock performance." Wang Tungsheng pointed out that, the recent market worried the mainland heat has had the basis, if the Chinese stock market collapses the plate, "is quite serious" to the Hong Kong stock market's impact meeting. Li Jiacheng: The worry stock market really has the froth phenomenon The body concurrently Yangtze River industry with with records Huangpu Chairman Hong Kong trillion rich and powerful people Li Jiacheng, one day ago only then proposed the warning said: "The body is a Chinese, I extremely worry the stock market. Now this profit ratio is 50 to 60 times, this indeed has the froth phenomenon. I certainly did not hope saw the froth is disillusioned, the investor best is more careful 1.." The Chinese stock heat degree does not draw back, since February 27 the global stock disaster, the Chinese Shanghai deep 300 kind of indexs (CSI 300) greatly rose 48%, the Shanghai stock market composite index first broke through 4000. critical junctions last week. The analyst estimated that, on card composite index ingredient stock this profit compared to climbed to 50 times about, far is higher than the Asian mean value 14 to 18 times. In the past for 3 years, the Chinese economy every year by 10% above speed growth, attracted the full hand cash the foreign capital to swarm enters, then pushed rises to hit the stock quotation. Center □promotes a series of □□□handles on May 19, 2007 09:45 in a big way | center | to be small Center □the government Friday added □□□□□□controlled dynamics, □however adopted in front of a series of □□measures mostly already □use □, but this central bank □□□□measure in identical □□promoted, the procedure might □□often. Center □the government Friday announces a series of receives □□□the policy □to handle, and expressed □□big US dollar/people's □□rate date transaction □□, □a step of Canada □□□□□□controls dynamics.


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post May 22 2007, 10:22 PM

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Basically, advise that investors reduce their positions in the chinese market. Prices have gone up too high.
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post May 22 2007, 10:26 PM

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Seriously, people. How much is enough? You can never sell at the highest. In this game, if you want to win, then draw a line. Know where's your exit point.

I already already disposed all my share except maybulk 2k bonus shares which only payout on Thurs.

I am happy I made some money. I rather have good night sleep and wait for another opportunity comes. This is an on going process. Why push ourself so hard and suffer at the end, right?

CASH IS KING!
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post May 22 2007, 10:28 PM

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As I said before on Transmile, there are still plenty of hidden issues that unknown to the public not as simple as only involved accounting sense.

Personally, until it is clearing up the issues and become 'cleaner', I won't touch the share, too risky for personal liking, you don't know what will happen next.

In the market there are still others that worth to be investing, if others already going higher then stay out and wait.

China market is on 'crazy' bull currently and the bubble keep on inflating, if not cooling down, a big burst is imminent.
In reality, finance wise, if China market burst, it only has minimal real direct impact on US stock market since China market is not freely trade and open up to the foreigners, also its scale is too small to make an impact on US.
The impact will be on sentiment side and psychology. The Feb 28 plunge is due to psychology side and which US stock market take an accuse to take profit also which had long run up without much meaningful correction.

But locally, KLSE, it might take a big hit if China market burst since KLSE currently is not cheap anymore, some index linked counters are trading at forward PERx of more than 20 which is difficult to justify except through significant earning improvement or being taken private at a premium. Currently, it is the massive liquidity and momemtum that drive the market rather than people buying stock because stock is cheap.
Current scenario is like 'too much money chasing too little investment option'.
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post May 22 2007, 10:35 PM

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guys time to rest take break for holiday brows.gif well when time come we earn some big money again....hold your cash as much as you can. any tips i let you guys know
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post May 22 2007, 11:05 PM

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according to that Chinese article, Li Ka Shing said," as a Chinese, I am worried about the stock market. The P/E ratio is 50-60 times, and this is definitely a sign of the bubble. I of course do not want to see the bubble bursting, so investors be careful."

this is serious
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wat is HELP's fair price?


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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ May 22 2007, 09:40 PM)
Thanks wufei for the article.

Just an hour before I read your post, I actually made up my mind to cash out some money in my portfolio. As per stated by DigitalTech, cash is king. Since I had earn some profits there, I think I should quit, for this moment. smile.gif
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r u cashing out now? biggrin.gif
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why didnt star publish the news of transmil CEO may get sacked ?
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QUOTE(vvv @ May 23 2007, 12:15 AM)
wat is HELP's fair price?
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IPO price 0.80
yesterday highest 0.930
yesterday lowest 0.915
yesterday closed at 0.925


QUOTE(ts1 @ May 23 2007, 07:57 AM)
r u cashing out now?  biggrin.gif
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yah lor mate.
but will see how's the market today
hopefully is greenie smile.gif

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tranmil plunged down might be good news, i might buy it again at lower price.
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QUOTE(~Battousai~ @ May 22 2007, 09:51 PM)
u have your ceo being the one who cheated on the accounts because he's a very big shareholder ?? yea very likely it drop. it's actually surprising it only drop 30 cents today. because the news was out in thestar online. tomorrow publish in newspapers more ppl read thus pushing price down
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QUOTE(~Battousai~ @ May 23 2007, 08:24 AM)
why didnt star publish the news of transmil CEO may get sacked ?
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this morning TRANMIL 9.800 (-0.400)
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QUOTE(john123x @ May 23 2007, 09:23 AM)
tranmil plunged down might be good news, i might buy it again at lower price.
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buy also not at this moment, i believe.
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yea i know im looking at the stock nonstop laugh.gif
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I think whoever holds HELP better sell before it goes down further, at least cheop some profits first
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ May 23 2007, 09:13 AM)
IPO price 0.80
yesterday highest 0.930
yesterday lowest 0.915
yesterday closed at 0.925
yah lor mate.
but will see how's the market today
hopefully is greenie smile.gif
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if up again u said sell tomolo... tongue.gif

seriously, i dun wan to sell b4 reaCH 4 buck cool2.gif
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ May 23 2007, 09:26 AM)
this morning TRANMIL 9.800 (-0.400)
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tranmil should plunged down like a dollar or two.... for me to buy it
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QUOTE(john123x @ May 23 2007, 09:39 AM)
tranmil should plunged down like a dollar or two....
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why? got insider info bro tongue.gif

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