Thanks for the feedback bro. Less one oil for me to test.

There are workshops that boldly say they selling this and that expensive oil. I mean, it is really expensive oils like Liqui Moly or Mobil. You think it is just their marketing gimmick or they really care? I do agree lots of pomen don't care as long as no complain from owners. After all, when there are problems, they will go back to them.

I have bought other oil from them and they seem legit. Not sure about the shell oil though.

Hmm..strange to know that Vanli sell Honda EO. The last I check with them, they don't sell any Honda parts.

Cause 0w20 in demand now. More and more car using low viscosity oil. Hybrids, new engines, and start-stop engine. Some even using 0w16.

https://www.tirereview.com/0w16-oil-different-0w20/

As engine design improves, we will see lower viscosity oil being recommended. Just like how 0w20 is being recommended for more cars in Malaysia. 0w16 will soon be normal recommendation assuming EV don't start to take over the ICE too soon.

Personally, I won't bother with brands that have lots of fakes. Like direct honda, perodua, toyota brands.

I am going with brands that don't have fakes...like mizu, kaito, exnII, aisin and so on.

You can try Aisin EO. Don't think there are fakes. Quality also is trustable since it's from Aisin.

BTW, dynolube is low quality EO. Don't use it.

This post has been edited by abubin: Sep 10 2021, 03:57 PM

Please do teach how to identify fake engine oil. This is some next level kung fu.

I thought got some special skill to detect fake EO. Rupa2nya, just the same method where most people use. Compare the bottles with ori.

Thing is, I need to compare Toyota, Honda, Proton, Perodua, I have to standby all the ori bottles to compare. First, I have to spend money to buy the ORI ORI oil and then compare to some shops claiming to be ori. Been there done that. Not 100% effective. Waste of time and money too.

Also for the viscosity tester, I don't think there are anything cheaper than few k to build a tester. Most of the proper testers are lab equipment that if your pomen know how to use, he no need to open workshop. Open science lab make more money. Please share if there are cheaper method to test oil viscosity. Don't tell me go freeze the fake oil and genuine oil then compare the flow rate. And no, you cannot tell viscosity by looking at the lube or rubbing with your finger.

You also mentioned, knowing only after putting the oil into the engine. Isn't that too late already? Plus, fake oil and genuine oil sometimes are hard to tell even by driving the car. I am very sure if I give you do a blind test of fake vs genuine oil, you won't be able to tell them apart 10 out of 10. Maybe 5 out of 10 which is still not accurate.

Sigh..the way you say I thought it's some new kung fu for me to learn to tell apart engine oils. If got, please share. I am always eager to learn new things.

This post has been edited by abubin: Oct 11 2021, 04:46 PM

psst...minyak masak pun very clear....

moreover, it has been debated before in other threads, clear oil doesn't means it's good oil. Also, recycled oil doesn't means it's bad oil.

This post has been edited by abubin: Oct 13 2021, 02:52 PM

Keyword is lower the chances of getting fake oil. Really man...we need government to work with agencies to fight against this fake oil and fake fluids issues. It is really getting out of hand. Cause the problem is, it's hard to detect which oil is genuine or fake.

Hope that our little thread here can continue to educate people on fake oils.

I am getting mine from Shopee/Lazada. I go for brands that don't have fakes or confirm trusted sellers.

So far I have tested and some in queue: Toyota (from trusted seller), Mizu, Kaito, Kroner, Aisin, Rektol, Bold, Autolube

My favourite right now is Aisin. Seems good quality but their official store have increased their price.

I know about Aisin being a big brand before I took the dive to try their oil. The reason is because even though they are big brand, they are not known for their engine oils. So their brakes might be good but that doesn't means their oil is good. However, big brands have big money to invest into R&D and even have bigger reason to take care of their branding. Therefore, it is highly unlikely they will product substandard quality product. At worst, it might be something average which is still better than using fakes. For example, someone did say Bosch engine oil quality is not good. Big brand also but again, oil is not their strong suit. So anyway, Aisin oil turns out to be good but I suspect their price will increase very soon. They sold at competitive price to try capture local market. Once they have done that, their price will go back to normal.

Price has gone back down. Previously 0w-20 Greentech was like RM179. It's now back to RM128. I am going to get a few bottle to keep.

The oil can be recycled for usage on other industries. No only to be processed again back as engine oil.

Why need to use cheap oil for topup? You should be using the same type/brand oil for topup also.

Get Mizu which is affordable and decent quality. Don't cheap out too much as the car you still driving. Not like ask you to get Castrol or Petronas. Even want to sell already doesn't mean you let it rot. Imagine if you are buying a used car, the previous owner think like you. Do you want to get a bad condition car cause the owner don't want to take care of it already cause selling?

Tulen Sakti seller can be trusted. No problem buying from them.

If you want genuine oil, try Aisin. They make OEM products and also have EO. I have used them and feel the quality is there.

They have official store in Shopee. They also have discounts from time to time. For eg, original 5w30 cost 160 but during promo, it's maybe 100. Confirm ori and good brand.