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English Clubs Liverpool LYN Kop Talk - 2017/2018, CHE 1 : 1 LFC #YNWA

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Patt_Hup
post May 7 2018, 01:25 AM

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And weird formation from beginning on midfielders. What’s klopp thinking? Wijnaldum n lovren are like very afraid of ball. Only robertson van djilk and milner care enough to bring the ball to front
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You look at who Chelsea could sub in and then you compare to our bench, we are not challenging anytome soon.
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post May 7 2018, 01:26 AM

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QUOTE(Patt_Hup @ May 7 2018, 01:25 AM)
And weird formation from beginning on midfielders. What’s klopp thinking? Wijnaldum n lovren are like very afraid of ball. Only robertson van djilk and milner care enough to bring the ball to front
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Dont forget super Clyne.... 100% back pass the whole time he was on the pitch.
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post May 7 2018, 01:38 AM

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so... 1 win against top 6 this season rite?
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post May 7 2018, 01:42 AM

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QUOTE(farisq @ May 7 2018, 01:25 AM)
You look at who Chelsea could sub in and then you compare to our bench, we are not challenging anytome soon.
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So you acknowledge Squad depth is a problem now?
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post May 7 2018, 02:07 AM

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QUOTE(aiyish @ May 7 2018, 01:23 AM)
Buvac leaving will cost us a lot. We havent won any of our last 5 games
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Hope he come back for the CL's Final in Kiev.


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QUOTE(carloz28 @ May 7 2018, 01:42 AM)
So you acknowledge Squad depth is a problem now?
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Yes,
It's not a problem 2 u?
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post May 7 2018, 08:28 AM

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QUOTE(jialitrading @ May 7 2018, 01:33 AM)
Shit performance...
Especially clyne n wijnaldum...
Can’t klopp stop fielding wij?

This is really worrying for CL final
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WHO else can Klopp put in MIDFIELD?

TBF Wij has been playing very well in CL since he came in for Ox.
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post May 7 2018, 08:32 AM

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How to win when Chelsea bench players are better than our first 11 in midfield !!!
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post May 7 2018, 09:29 AM

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Always like to make difficult for themselves.

5-0 leading at second half against Roma and in control, conceding 2 late goals, resulted second leg hang in balance.

Leading 9~12 points against Chelsea at one time, with fixtures against 2 relegation team to play, seems in control, but draw both, and now lose to Chelsea, 4th place hang in balance.. doh.gif
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Potentially out of CL if lose or draw against brighton doh.gif
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post May 7 2018, 09:33 AM

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QUOTE(jialitrading @ May 7 2018, 01:33 AM)
Shit performance...
Especially clyne n wijnaldum...
Can’t klopp stop fielding wij?

This is really worrying for CL final
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Who else did we have to play in deep mid bruh?
Well good thing is that in Kiev, Gini would not start in deep mid (which I honestly think he didnt suck) and TAA is likely to be our starting RB (thank god cause he sucked in mid I think).
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What’s the point of grumbling about squad depth now when the problem should have been addressed in the two transfer windows?

I forgot, fans were really happy with the transfer commitee at that time, keeping the net spend low and healthy wage bill etc. Yup, under Klopp’s system, players are expected to play for 38 games + CL + Domestic cups without sustaining any injuries.

It’s ok, since we are already in CL final, who cares how well we do in the league, right?

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post May 7 2018, 09:49 AM

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squad depth.. its all about the squad depth..
liv is so unfortunate with injuries at the end of the season..
hopefully can and lala sempat recover b4 the finals..
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post May 7 2018, 09:59 AM

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1) gini playing hendo role? bad
2) taa in mid, bad
3) clyne, bad
4) our performance since buvac leaving us, very very bad

lallana and can might be fit for the ucl final but i wont be trusting them to start. the only consolation from today is rm definitely wont be playing like chelsea.

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post May 7 2018, 10:27 AM

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Mane had a few good shots. Too bad Coutois was good.

Nabil Fekir rumors making rounds this morning.
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post May 7 2018, 10:56 AM

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We're paper thin in the middle of the park at the moment, no argument what with Can, Lallana and Ox out injured and it was there that we were bossed. Under normal circumstances, we'd have 6 players vying for central midfield spots, 7 if you consider Woodburn. Mourinho once had the same problem at Chelsea with only 3 recognised centrebacks and for a number of games, he had to deploy Michael Essien as a makeshift centrehalf. Injuries are to be expected over the course of a season but not even Nostradamus can predict in which positions these injuries will occur, much less the casualty toll for each position. Unfortunately for us, we're losing players who play in similar positions. I don't care if you're WBA or Barcelona, losing 2 or 3 first team midfielders is a tragedy.

Chelsea played a stifling game, sitting deeper than our last few opponents and this is where they really killed us. We were resigned to pinging the ball about the back, looking for openings. The likes of Kante, Rudiger and Cahill had standout games. Once again, we struggled to break down a tight defence. It is in games like these that we miss the creativity of Coutinho. To top it off, the lads looked lethargic.

Knowing that we were light in midfield, what Klopp could have done in hindsight was to play 5 across the back, knowing that we needed only 1 point to secure a top 4 finish. The back 4 had little protection in the absence of a no.6 and there was no one that could pick up Hazard.

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post May 7 2018, 11:06 AM

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QUOTE(Duke Red @ May 7 2018, 10:56 AM)
We're paper thin in the middle of the park at the moment, no argument what with Can, Lallana and Ox out injured and it was there that we were bossed. Under normal circumstances, we'd have 6 players vying for central midfield spots, 7 if you consider Woodburn. Mourinho once had the same problem at Chelsea with only 3 recognised centrebacks and for a number of games, he had to deploy Michael Essien as a makeshift centrehalf. Injuries are to be expected over the course of a season but not even Nostradamus can predict in which positions these injuries will occur, much less the casualty toll for each position. Unfortunately for us, we're losing players who play in similar positions. I don't care if you're WBA or Barcelona, losing 2 or 3 first team midfielders is a tragedy.

Chelsea played a stifling game, sitting deeper than our last few opponents and this is where they really killed us. We were rescued to pinging the ball about the back, looking for openings. The likes of Kante, Rudiger and Cahill had standout games. Once again, we struggled to break down a tight defence. It is in games like these that we miss the creativity of Coutinho. To top it off, the lads looked lethargic.

Knowing that we were light in midfield, what Klopp could have done in hindsight was to play 5 across the back, knowing that we needed only 1 point to secure a top 4 finish. The back 4 had little protection in the absence of a no.6 and there was no one that could pick up Hazard.
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The need for more depth is actually screaming out loud up front rather than middle of the park. Even without injuries (pls don't jinx this) we have practically no one to rotate Salah & Mane with. Ings is certainly more suitable playing thru the middle; Solanke is just hopeless.

About the game itself, Chelsea attack our fullbacks, and to great effect. Hazard wasn't really getting into the game much until late, where we have to go more offensive than ever. We probably would fare worse to start with back 5, given we conceded like 6 goals in 4 games after switching to back 3/5 after 75mins. Of course, no conclusion should be drawn since it was 5-3-2 rather than the 5-2-3 u are suggesting (I assume).
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QUOTE(Lionel90 @ May 7 2018, 11:06 AM)
The need for more depth is actually screaming out loud up front rather than middle of the park. Even without injuries (pls don't jinx this) we have practically no one to rotate Salah & Mane with. Ings is certainly more suitable playing thru the middle; Solanke is just hopeless.

About the game itself, Chelsea attack our fullbacks, and to great effect. Hazard wasn't really getting into the game much until late, where we have to go more offensive than ever. We probably would fare worse to start with back 5, given we conceded like 6 goals in 4 games after switching to back 3/5 after 75mins. Of course, no conclusion should be drawn since it was 5-3-2 rather than the 5-2-3 u are suggesting (I assume).
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True that. Lallana and Ox have filled those roles but hey, not many people on the planet can replace Salah and to an extent Mane at the moment. Solanke looks to be a plan B signing at the moment and Ings isn't versatile enough, neither does he have the required technique to replace any of the front 3.

Yup, I've noticed that too - that we've conceded late goals after bringing Klavan on to "shore up" the defence but playing Clyne in midfield reeked of desperation. I say this through gritted teeth but I'm hoping that we will one day be able to emulate the all conquering mancs earlier in the century, with us imposing our football on teams and having them adapt to us instead of vice versa.
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post May 7 2018, 12:02 PM

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I think loaning sturridge in winter is a bad decision. When he's fit he is way better than our current bench.

Also I hope next season Harry Wilson will break into first team. He is definitely a better sub for Mane or Salah in case any of them goes off form.

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