Can i know which bank saving plan is good ? Juz need tenure 6 - 10 years. Only for saving coz insurance plan ord have
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Can i know which bank saving plan is good ? Juz need tenure 6 - 10 years. Only for saving coz insurance plan ord have
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The best is put ur own fd
Every month u put 1000 fd for 12months Saving plan is actually jus taking ur money n buying unit trust for u. U can jus buy ur own unit trust |
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Masuk SSPN la. 4% yearly. Got rebate for income tax summore.
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Instant 24%++ annual return if you dump into SSPN (in a form of tax rebate), if your annual income is 100k and above (tax bracket @ 24%+)
But max is 6k laa. And only valid for 2018, 2019 and 2020 - meaning got 3 more tax assessment years, unless gomen extends it further Caveat is you need at least 1 kid, and it is hard to cash out till the kid is 18 yrs old also, if you earth prince then got ASB as well maa. ~7% annual returnz risk-free, tax-free, and no fees This post has been edited by ketupatlazat: Apr 15 2018, 11:14 PM |
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QUOTE(ketupatlazat @ Apr 15 2018, 10:45 PM) Instant 24%++ annual return if you dump into SSPN (in a form of tax rebate), and annual income of 100k and above Wat is the min tenureBut max is 6k laa. And only valid for 2018, 2019 and 2020 - meaning got 3 more tax assessment years, unless gomen extends it further Caveat is you need at least 1 kid, and it is hard to cash out till the kid is 18 yrs old also, if you earth prince then got ASB as well maa. ~7% annual returnz risk-free, tax-free, and no fees |
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LOL Saving plan also need to go through agent...
every month contribute 30% to agent for first year come come Income Builder Plan - Save 6k this year can withdraw 2K, 33% return in 1 year!!!!! dont know what's income builder plan??? GOOGLE LA INCOME BUILDER 8228 3288 2829 2928 ALL OUR PEOPLE |
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QUOTE(samsungXP @ Apr 15 2018, 02:17 AM) Can i know which bank saving plan is good ? Juz need tenure 6 - 10 years. Only for saving coz insurance plan ord have I took a saving plan by HLA. Look out for it, I think it's still available. Minimum lock in, 6 year. Return quite high.QUOTE(kelvinlym @ Apr 15 2018, 06:15 AM) Higher interest comes with higher risk. TS dah la cakap 6 - 10 years and you go babbling about liquidity risk.No free lunch there. Maybe in the form of a lock period which is a form of liquidity risk. |
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QUOTE(Harddisk @ Apr 22 2018, 02:10 AM) I took a saving plan by HLA. Look out for it, I think it's still available. Minimum lock in, 6 year. Return quite high. HLA... that is not saving plan my friend.. Jus a way to sell their product by insurance companyTS dah la cakap 6 - 10 years and you go babbling about liquidity risk. Whats the return when u withdraw after the minimum of 6th year? |
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QUOTE(pisces88 @ Apr 22 2018, 02:15 AM) HLA... that is not saving plan my friend.. Jus a way to sell their product by insurance company There's a guaranteed return, average to 6.9%/annum. Interest applied on this amount if you don't do withdrawal on it. There is also dividend, but forgotten the rate. My last calculation based on best rate, it could go up to around 9.7%/annum.Whats the return when u withdraw after the minimum of 6th year? Yes, withdraw after completed 6 years tenure. It was backed with PIDM as well. |
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saving plan that you need to contribute monthly?
how about no... |
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QUOTE(Harddisk @ Apr 22 2018, 02:46 AM) There's a guaranteed return, average to 6.9%/annum. Interest applied on this amount if you don't do withdrawal on it. There is also dividend, but forgotten the rate. My last calculation based on best rate, it could go up to around 9.7%/annum. i think there was a thread in Finance discussing this so called 'saving plan' from HLA, busted their myth of so called 'guaranteed return'... Yes, withdraw after completed 6 years tenure. It was backed with PIDM as well. im quite familiar with the returns, dividends, and surrender value.. many HLA agents have explained to me |
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QUOTE(pisces88 @ Apr 22 2018, 04:17 AM) i think there was a thread in Finance discussing this so called 'saving plan' from HLA, busted their myth of so called 'guaranteed return'... I did the calculations. Only those that don't understand it said it's a myth.im quite familiar with the returns, dividends, and surrender value.. many HLA agents have explained to me |
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QUOTE(pisces88 @ Apr 22 2018, 04:17 AM) i think there was a thread in Finance discussing this so called 'saving plan' from HLA, busted their myth of so called 'guaranteed return'... this 2 threads ah? im quite familiar with the returns, dividends, and surrender value.. many HLA agents have explained to me https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3602419/all https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=2723676 |
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QUOTE(saiga @ Apr 15 2018, 06:00 PM) If really uncle then good. Open under your kids name la. You must have misunderstood hos questions..I myself open two accounts. Summore this year got free rm500 grant for kids 7-12 years old. He was literally asking you is there age limit to open a sspn account? He is not very sure about it because he quite old already |
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QUOTE(Harddisk @ Apr 22 2018, 08:03 PM) Ops sorry, Yes i noticed u said didnt include dividend.I meant to say, 'you believe the agent when they say dividend 30%'? Invest 12000 a year.. The dividend is 3600 @@ What does ur policy say you will get when you terminate the policy / upon maturity? I rmber there is no 'guaranteed return / guaranteed profit' , only 'worst case scenario / best case scenario'. Correct? Anyway, its your money. I jus wanna start a /kopitiam talk, no offence |
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QUOTE(ar188 @ Apr 22 2018, 08:35 PM) this 2 threads ah? Tq unker hehe https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3602419/all https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=2723676 |
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QUOTE(samsungXP @ Apr 15 2018, 05:39 AM) I calculated saving plus plan before, better you keep in FD. FD accumulated interest plus shorter maturity period, Saving plus plan fixed interest at 3 %, usually with few years maturity period. Your accumulated interest in few years definitely higher than saving plus plan i tell you. |
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QUOTE(Harddisk @ Apr 22 2018, 02:10 AM) I took a saving plan by HLA. Look out for it, I think it's still available. Minimum lock in, 6 year. Return quite high. I calculated this before, I actually join a few years ago cause still noob. After understand cashflow and use final maturity period with final sum, if no take into account inflation is 3% interest p.a. If inflation take into account almost make loss. Better FD.TS dah la cakap 6 - 10 years and you go babbling about liquidity risk. |
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QUOTE(Harddisk @ Apr 22 2018, 02:46 AM) There's a guaranteed return, average to 6.9%/annum. Interest applied on this amount if you don't do withdrawal on it. There is also dividend, but forgotten the rate. My last calculation based on best rate, it could go up to around 9.7%/annum. Are we talking about the same plan here? Every month 188 for 10 years. and then for another 10 years get cheque at the end each year, and at the 20th year get one lump sum. Got dividend meh? I read the policy up and down never saw a dividend clause, only time of maturity and surrender value.Yes, withdraw after completed 6 years tenure. It was backed with PIDM as well. |
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QUOTE(pisces88 @ Apr 22 2018, 10:08 PM) Ops sorry, Yes i noticed u said didnt include dividend. i think the only way to find the real return is really enter the program, then plot every year how much pay in, then get every year pay out.I meant to say, 'you believe the agent when they say dividend 30%'? Invest 12000 a year.. The dividend is 3600 @@ What does ur policy say you will get when you terminate the policy / upon maturity? I rmber there is no 'guaranteed return / guaranteed profit' , only 'worst case scenario / best case scenario'. Correct? Anyway, its your money. I jus wanna start a /kopitiam talk, no offence i think after year 10.. then can see whats the real returns..after all those variables like dividend /that particular year actual figure u received etc i had one running over 10years adi (not HL) i think 12 year payment , then autopilot, when i check the real figures it was like 3-4% real return.. not much actually. but ok la for some forced savings/backup funds. haha and then just leave it to run until 60 or 75years old. etc... |
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QUOTE(ar188 @ Apr 22 2018, 10:21 PM) i think the only way to find the real return is really enter the program, then plot every year how much pay in, then get every year pay out. Ya need to enter and wait 10,15yrs only can see real return... But cannot guarantee it will be higher than unit trust or even fd. Because policy doesnt guarantee a payout. My own brother's education saving plan payout was lower than fd rate (compounded) after 10yrs.i think after year 10.. then can see whats the real returns..after all those variables like dividend /that particular year actual figure u received etc i had one running over 10years adi (not HL) i think 12 year payment , then autopilot, when i check the real figures it was like 3-4% real return.. not much actually. but ok la for some forced savings/backup funds. haha and then just leave it to run until 60 or 75years old. etc... |
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QUOTE(pisces88 @ Apr 22 2018, 10:27 PM) Ya need to enter and wait 10,15yrs only can see real return... But cannot guarantee it will be higher than unit trust or even fd. Because policy doesnt guarantee a payout. My own brother's education saving plan payout was lower than fd rate (compounded) after 10yrs. best is to park everything excess into full flexi housing loan |
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QUOTE(Chowda @ Apr 22 2018, 10:15 PM) I calculated saving plus plan before, better you keep in FD. FD accumulated interest plus shorter maturity period, Saving plus plan fixed interest at 3 %, usually with few years maturity period. Your accumulated interest in few years definitely higher than saving plus plan i tell you. Not everyone understands...If they use 'best case scenario' % calculatiob of course the return will be higher than fd. But impossible every year also 'best case scenario' ma. If u tell the agent this, they will tell u 'aiyo boss, every year hla gives out xx% la, wont drop below xx%' Then u ask them 'is it guaranteed in policy?' They eill diam diam. |
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QUOTE(pisces88 @ Apr 22 2018, 10:08 PM) Ops sorry, Yes i noticed u said didnt include dividend. I wasn't told it was 30%. Just said up to 10% per annum return. This would have to include dividend (max rate) along with compounded interest.I meant to say, 'you believe the agent when they say dividend 30%'? Invest 12000 a year.. The dividend is 3600 @@ What does ur policy say you will get when you terminate the policy / upon maturity? I rmber there is no 'guaranteed return / guaranteed profit' , only 'worst case scenario / best case scenario'. Correct? Anyway, its your money. I jus wanna start a /kopitiam talk, no offence Like I said previous, I did the calculations and it's there. But I haven't check what's the dividend I'm getting though. Will treat it as a way to force my savings. The extra interest over FD is a bonus. Was definitely told about the early withdrawal penalty. The agent is quite clear on the details with me. So I was ok with it. |
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QUOTE(Chowda @ Apr 22 2018, 10:18 PM) I calculated this before, I actually join a few years ago cause still noob. After understand cashflow and use final maturity period with final sum, if no take into account inflation is 3% interest p.a. If inflation take into account almost make loss. Better FD. FD won't be affected by inflation? If you're discipline enough not to touch the FD once it's matured, then it's ok. It's your own choice.QUOTE(Chowda @ Apr 22 2018, 10:20 PM) Are we talking about the same plan here? Every month 188 for 10 years. and then for another 10 years get cheque at the end each year, and at the 20th year get one lump sum. Got dividend meh? I read the policy up and down never saw a dividend clause, only time of maturity and surrender value. Sounds different. Mine min must save for 6 yes I order to get the return tabled out. And it's fixed amount per year savings.To get the best rate, just withdraw once the contract is due. Cause if leaving the savings with the running rate, the interest is not that high. Take it out, reinvest again in similar saving plan. Their selling point was, "this is the final deal already". But manatau 2 yes down the road I'm still seeing similar plans by HLA, albeit slightly different rate (lower already I think). But if do it every 6 years, the rate is considered high. Definitely better than FD. Anyway, do your own calculations. You'd know what's best for yourself. |
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QUOTE(Chowda @ Apr 22 2018, 10:15 PM) I calculated saving plus plan before, better you keep in FD. FD accumulated interest plus shorter maturity period, Saving plus plan fixed interest at 3 %, usually with few years maturity period. Your accumulated interest in few years definitely higher than saving plus plan i tell you. so which bank currently the higher interest for FD ? |
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